Harvard Study Links Fluoride Along With 10 Other Chemicals To Neurodevelopmental Disorders - Polidicks

[QUOTE=nintenman1;44213178]In places where you actually have elemental fluoride preset in the groundwater in high enough amounts and it isn't treated out, you can get some really nasty bone issues from that. The US uses minute quantities of Hexafluorosilicic acid in drinking water, and the chemical properties between the two really aren't all that similar. Again... fluoride != fluoridated drinking water[/QUOTE] [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Groundwater-fluoride-world.svg]If you live in the blue they're putting less fluoride back in the water than they're taking out[/url]

[QUOTE=person11;44213376]My family started to filter all of the tap water fearing this kind of thing. I got a cavity a week later.[/QUOTE] How hard is it to brush your teeth? It seriously can´t be that hard.

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;44213840]How hard is it to brush your teeth? It seriously can´t be that hard.[/QUOTE] You can still get cavities, even if you brush your teeth.

[QUOTE=TaniaTiger;44213343]Why should those with good oral hygiene not have the choice of purer water? Whether these added chemicals are harmful or not, surely it's a basic human right to have access to water that is just water. (or as close as can be, before someone points out there's always going to be little bits of whatever floating about in water)[/QUOTE] Because people voted for policies which benefit the public at large. Adding trace amounts of a chemical that is harmless at low concentrations and is already present in many areas is trivial.

[QUOTE=TaniaTiger;44213343]Why should those with good oral hygiene not have the choice of purer water? Whether these added chemicals are harmful or not, surely it's a basic human right to have access to water that is just water. (or as close as can be, before someone points out there's always going to be little bits of whatever floating about in water)[/QUOTE] Drinking pure H2O is not very good for you for long periods of time as its missing a ton of natural minerals.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44213890]You can still get cavities, even if you brush your teeth.[/QUOTE] But with proper brushing your teeth the chances for getting a cavity is small (unless you drink lots of soda and such stuff, then you should be more concerned).

Well, even if the fluoride helps with dental care, if it's harmful to brain development then it shouldn't be in the water. Mental healthcare is, in my opinion, far more important than dental healthcare, because we're talking about the goddamn central processing unit here, not a bunch of pseudo-bones that grind up foodstuffs.

[QUOTE=ironman17;44213952]Well, even if the fluoride helps with dental care, if it's harmful to brain development then it shouldn't be in the water. Mental healthcare is, in my opinion, far more important than dental healthcare, because we're talking about the goddamn central processing unit here, not a bunch of pseudo-bones that grind up foodstuffs.[/QUOTE] But there's no link between fluoridated water and developmental disorders.

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;44213936]But with proper brushing your teeth the chances for getting a cavity is small (unless you drink lots of soda and such stuff, then you should be more concerned).[/QUOTE] I'll play fate, I haven't brushed my teeth for 10 years, and have been a chronic soda drinker since before that, no cavities. On the other hand my sister, whom brushes every night and never drinks soda has a LOT. Being an outlier is fun.

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;44213840]How hard is it to brush your teeth? It seriously can´t be that hard.[/QUOTE] Brushing your teeth does not provide some sort of impenetrable kevlar shield around your teeth, you know.

Can see a lot of people saying 'oh but it fights cavities' in here. I'll take cavities over neurodevelopmental disorders any day, thanks. Or just look after your damn teeth and eat properly and you're unlikely to have cavity problems anyway.

[QUOTE=anis;44213987]Can see a lot of people saying 'oh but it fights cavities' in here. I'll take cavities over neurodevelopmental disorders any day, thanks. Or just look after your damn teeth and eat properly and you won't have that problem anyway.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;44213972]But there's no link between fluoridated water and developmental disorders.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ironman17;44213952]Well, even if the fluoride helps with dental care, if it's harmful to brain development then it shouldn't be in the water. Mental healthcare is, in my opinion, far more important than dental healthcare, because we're talking about the goddamn central processing unit here, not a bunch of pseudo-bones that grind up foodstuffs.[/QUOTE] The issue is that only in large amounts of the stuff does actual damage become measurable: if you eat fish think how much mercury you are ingesting, think about all the NATURAL radiation. as long as you can statistically say that 'The amount of Fluoride in water would, even if you were to ingest it your whole life: will not cause neurological dysfunctions' Then I don't see a problem.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;44213024]I know they put flouride in the water here. Not too many people say anything about it because virtually all discussion on the subject was from the tinfoil hat community, but after this study that might change.[/QUOTE] The (trace) amount of fluoride in tap water is somewhere entirely else than what the study is talking about. A lot of places have equal if not larger amounts of fluoride in natural ground water.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;44213972]But there's no link between fluoridated water and developmental disorders.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.autismcoach.com/v/vspfiles/files/Neurobehavioural%20effects%20of%20developmental%20toxicity%20-%20Lancet%20Article%20-%202-2014.pdf[/url]

Hey guys guess what, fluoride is also an important component in chemical weapons. The point being that it's been well known that fluoride is dangerous [b]in big quantities[/b] like pretty much everything, all that's been discovered now is that we found another way that it's harmful. This only links fluoride, not fluoridated water but I can already see the sensationalism that's going to abuse the shit out of this article. [editline]12th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=anis;44214014][url]https://www.autismcoach.com/v/vspfiles/files/Neurobehavioural%20effects%20of%20developmental%20toxicity%20-%20Lancet%20Article%20-%202-2014.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] autismcoach.com yeah sounds trustworthy.

[QUOTE=anis;44214014][url]https://www.autismcoach.com/v/vspfiles/files/Neurobehavioural%20effects%20of%20developmental%20toxicity%20-%20Lancet%20Article%20-%202-2014.pdf[/url][/QUOTE]Jesus christ the front page of that site is incomprehensibly awful. Half of it is scaremongering, the other is fear profiteering with supplements.

[QUOTE=draugur;44213160]Too bad the amount of fluoride in tap water is so fucking low that you're probably more likely to get cancer from the radiation in bananas. That's why the tinfoil hat community is laughed at. Just because something is dangerous in large amounts doesn't mean shit, nicotine was the first poison after all and not everyone drops dead after having one cig. The big difference between a poison and a medication is dosage.[/QUOTE] IDK buddy you don't see my smoking a pack of cigarettes a day but a gallon of water a day sure does add up.

[QUOTE=anis;44214014][url]https://www.autismcoach.com/v/vspfiles/files/Neurobehavioural%20effects%20of%20developmental%20toxicity%20-%20Lancet%20Article%20-%202-2014.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] It doesn't cause autism. We've been over this with the crooks who peddled pseudoscience last decade about X causing autism (and ended up hurting a lot of people). I should bloody well know. I've had idiot "doctors" and "healers" giving me shit medicines and treatments, including licorice oil and a treatment which made my legs very sore, in an attempt to "cure" my autism.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44213975]I'll play fate, I haven't brushed my teeth for 10 years, and have been a chronic soda drinker since before that, no cavities. On the other hand my sister, whom brushes every night and never drinks soda has a LOT. Being an outlier is fun.[/QUOTE] That's fucking disgusting.

[QUOTE=anis;44214014][url]https://www.autismcoach.com/v/vspfiles/files/Neurobehavioural%20effects%20of%20developmental%20toxicity%20-%20Lancet%20Article%20-%202-2014.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] Also there's no mention whatsoever of fluoride in there. Wait, yes there is, my search is fucking up for some reason. Derp. Point still stands, it's fluoride, not fluoridated water.

Let's not forget that water isn't the only source of fluoride - e.g toothpaste often contributes a lot. Are you really so sure the combined dosage is safe?

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44213975]I'll play fate, I haven't brushed my teeth for 10 years, and have been a chronic soda drinker since before that, no cavities. On the other hand my sister, whom brushes every night and never drinks soda has a LOT. Being an outlier is fun.[/QUOTE] Cool, so you're essentially playing Russian Roulette with your teeth because you're literally just too lazy to brush them? [editline]12th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=anis;44214105]Let's not forget that water isn't the only source of fluoride - e.g toothpaste often contributes a lot. Are you really so sure the combined dosage is safe?[/QUOTE] Most people don't eat tooth paste.

[QUOTE=anis;44214105]Let's not forget that water isn't the only source of fluoride - e.g toothpaste often contributes a lot. Are you really so sure the combined dosage is safe?[/QUOTE] Until a study from Harvard or other reputable sources says that fluoridated water or fluoridated toothpaste is dangerous then yeah, I'll believe it's safe. Maybe wait for other reputable sources to confirm it too before believing it's dangerous, till then, safe.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44213975]I'll play fate, I haven't brushed my teeth for 10 years, and have been a chronic soda drinker since before that, no cavities. On the other hand my sister, whom brushes every night and never drinks soda has a LOT. Being an outlier is fun.[/QUOTE] lovely. i bet your breath must be a real treat. nothing like the stench of dead animals and plant matter being slowly dissolved in gastric acid to convince everyone that you're a real champ. [editline]12th March[/editline] fun fact: tooth decay is caused by bacteria excreting fermented acids after eating sugar. makes me wonder how much streptococcus is literally shitting directly into your gums right now.

guys water contains uranium don't drink it or you will get cancer!!! Or you actually take a look at proper studies and find out that the amount of fluoride added to water is WAY too low to cause any negative effect.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44213975]I'll play fate, I haven't brushed my teeth for 10 years, and have been a chronic soda drinker since before that, no cavities. On the other hand my sister, whom brushes every night and never drinks soda has a LOT. Being an outlier is fun.[/QUOTE] fuckin gross dude. do people have to wear a gasmask when you talk to them to avoid dying from the stench??

I use fluoride toothpaste because it makes my teeth shine at pearlescent levels, and I'm not a schizo yet..

"A meta-analysis of 27 cross-sectional studies of children exposed to fluoride in drinking water, mainly from China, suggests an average IQ decrement of about seven points in children exposed to raised fluoride concentrations." Oh, it's referencing the studies of, among others, Chinese children exposed to hundreds of times more fluoride than is ever added to drinking water, owing to geological contaminants in those areas. This is that study this one refers to, for those curious (which itself is also a review compilation of information gathered from multiple other studies. [URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491930/[/URL] [editline]12th March 2014[/editline] I remember when the referenced article was posted here as well. It's interesting how some scientific studies resemble a human centipede of information. Also for some odd reason, the original pdf from the Lancet is 4mb smaller than the one posted on this page. Probably worth sticking to the original [URL]http://download.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/laneur/PIIS1474442213702783.pdf?id=caaAVeY_ysPbhcPEEz3su[/URL]

[QUOTE=hexpunK;44213592]Pretty sure that's not the fluoridation you're tasting but the fucking absurd amount of lime deposits we have in the water supplies all over the country. Fluoridation should have zero effect on the taste, scent of overall quality of the water you're drinking, the dosage is so damn minuscule.[/QUOTE] Oh, my bad.