South Korea’s struggle to find a workable approach to North Korea - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Roger Waters;39733906]that's assuming they would nuke themselves in a "taking you with me" move.[/QUOTE] knowing the standard of North Korean hardware I don't think they'd have much choice in the matter

[QUOTE=Roger Waters;39733906]what happens immediately after the nuke is dropped is pretty much anyone within range of or capable of seeing the blast itself is pretty much 99.9% fucked sixteen thousand ways from sunday. and pretty much the entire east is also guaranteed to get gang-fucked from the fallout. [editline]27th February 2013[/editline] both the literal radioactive fallout and the political fallout. [editline]27th February 2013[/editline] that's assuming they would nuke themselves in a "taking you with me" move.[/QUOTE] but the north koreans are so bloody incompetent and impoverished that they can't even make 1945-standard nukes one of their little firecrackers would probably do less damage to seoul than a good conventional carpet bombing

[QUOTE=Groat;39731194]Can't we just like bomb them with food that is clearly stamped "Courtesy of the United States" in bold, black print? Wouldn't that solve it?[/QUOTE] how is the literacy in NK?

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39732217]Hilariously, it would probably be seen as an act of war.[/QUOTE] "Oh my god! the Americans have invaded, and their bombing us with....[B]PIZZA[/B]?" NK Pizza Party coming this Summer

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;39728786]Honestly I'm usually all about pacifism and anti-war but I really doubt North Korea can be dealt with through politics.[/QUOTE] It is difficult to reason with a severe mentally-ill country.

I'm not so sure the North Koreans are as crazy as they seem/try to be.

[QUOTE=Solomon;39736783]I'm not so sure the North Koreans are as crazy as they seem/try to be.[/QUOTE] read this and say that again [url]http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=4f1e0899533f7680e78d03281fe18baf&wit_id=4f1e0899533f7680e78d03281fe18baf-2-1[/url]

[QUOTE=laserguided;39731657]I think North Korea will be fucked in half a century if they have not already been toppled from within. By 2060 the technology gap will just be so significant, war would be easier in my opinion.[/QUOTE] War would already be easy. The issue is, depending on how loyal (or fanatical) the inhabitants are it could devolve into some terrible insurgency that causes horrific damage to the south and North Korea would wind up being significantly depopulated. There's also the issue of the artillery pointed at the south which could probably cause some significant damage, not to mention the fact that the South would wind up inheriting the economic damage that exists in the north. Because of these reasons war would be very risky and messy and obviously I think most people would prefer a diplomatic solution if possible. People forget that the army in the NK is basically a forced profession. You can either be in the employ of the government in one of the cities, you can be the equivalent of a serf, living in poverty, or you can be a soldier. Given the circumstances it's unlikely that the military is very loyal and the military may simply wind up with a mass desertion issue the second it's mobilized. Their equipment is by and large 70's hardware, very obsolete. The country has not had any economic power for at least a few decades, and as such it can't afford to buy newer generation goodies. [editline]27th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Solomon;39736783]I'm not so sure the North Koreans are as crazy as they seem/try to be.[/QUOTE] The high government is batshit insane and/or very high on their own fumes, but the actual inhabitants of the country just do what they are told, given that there's not much other recourse unless you like being tortured, killed, or working in a slave labor camp.

[QUOTE=CheezyCakez;39736858]read this and say that again [url]http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=4f1e0899533f7680e78d03281fe18baf&wit_id=4f1e0899533f7680e78d03281fe18baf-2-1[/url][/QUOTE] I stand by what I said.