Reddit’s troubles mount as chief engineer Bethanye Blount quits - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Swilly;48208913]Like I said in the previous conversation about freespeech. In US law, at least [b]because Reddit is a US based company, all speech is protected free speech[/b] until which it breaches either hate clauses or non-protected speech like child porn. Everything else is fair game, most websites actually follow this sort of set up, including Facepunch.[/QUOTE] No speech is protected on a private website. [editline]14th July 2015[/editline] [url=https://np.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3dautm/content_policy_update_ama_thursday_july_16th_1pm/ct3n7hc]Have some more good drama from a former admin[/url] [quote]Ellen was more or less inclined to continue upholding my free-speech policies. /r/fatpeoplehate was banned for inciting off-site harassment, not discussing fat-shaming. What all the white-power racist-sexist neckbeards don't understand is that with her at the head of the company, the company would be immune to accusations of promoting sexism and racism: she is literally Silicon Valley's #1 Feminist Hero, so any "SJWs" would have a hard time attacking the company for intentionally creating a bastion (heh) of sexist/racist content. She probably would have tolerated your existence so long as you didn't cause any problems - I know that her long-term strategies were to find ways to surface and publicize reddit's good parts - allowing the bad parts to exist but keeping them out of the spotlight. It would have been very principled - the CEO of reddit, who once sued her previous employer for sexual discrimination, upholds free speech and tolerates the ugly side of humanity because it is so important to maintaining a platform for open discourse. It would have been unassailable. Well, now she's gone (you did it reddit!), and /u/spez has the moral authority as a co-founder to move ahead with the purge. We tried to let you govern yourselves and you failed, so now The Man is going to set some Rules. Admittedly, I can't say I'm terribly upset.[/quote]

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;48201313] I have a feeling that we'll be seeing the rise of some competitor soon.[/QUOTE] Facepunch maybe? Shit, I came back, don't see why others wouldn't migrate here.

[QUOTE=BananaFoam;48209443]Facepunch maybe? Shit, I came back, don't see why others wouldn't migrate here.[/QUOTE] I can't see facepunch ever being as big as reddit. Thankfully so in my opinion.

[QUOTE=BananaFoam;48209443]Facepunch maybe?[/QUOTE] All of the people complaining about reddit taking their freedom of speech away would have an aneurysm if they found Facepunch.

If reddit migrates to facepunch it'll be a disaster not a blessing

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48207036]But Facepunch isn't a bastion of free speech at all, it actively disallows people to be racist, overly misogynistic (in the actual meaning of the word), homophobic, transphobic, etc.[/QUOTE] You can be transphobic/racist/sexist and reasonably argue the ideas freely. Just don't be a dick about it and start being like "I hate dem niggaz, damn criminal savages,", etc. [QUOTE=Cmx;48207234]If you want true free speech go to 4chan. People wont hold back telling you why the things you love are shit and why you are shit for loving them.[/QUOTE] 8Chan doesn't ban certain topics and allows communities to reject their mods. [editline]15th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE]Blount says her decision to leave was not directly related to her gender, but she believes that Pao was placed on a ‘glass cliff’ — meaning that Pao was brought in at a time of crisis and set up for failure.[/QUOTE] Was Reddit in crisis before this? It seems like Pao did in fact make quite a few horrible choices as far as upholding freedom of speech on reddit and dealing with the community. Stuff like shadowbans, etc. Even than shouldn't a good CEO have been doing something to fix the problems?

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;48209116]Hate speech is also protected speech in the US FYI. There are no "Hate Clauses". There is speech that poses an imminent threat, and protected speech. That's the two classes of speech in the U.S.[/QUOTE] Hate speech is actually classified under the archaic 'fighting words' clause that still exists and lower courts use it. You have to remember the Miller Test.

[QUOTE=Swilly;48210077]Hate speech is actually classified under the archaic 'fighting words' clause that still exists and lower courts use it. You have to remember the Miller Test.[/QUOTE] Wrong. This was addressed in the 1969 KKK case, and in the WBC case in recent times. The Supreme Court ruled that a government cannot restrict speech unless it poses an imminent threat. That's why groups like the KKK and WBC can legally hold rallies and protests. It may be a breakdown in what you and I consider "protected speech". Protected speech, in my eyes, is any form of speech which is protected from government restriction and/or prosecution.