• 83-year-old asks Supreme Court to review gay marriage ban
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[QUOTE=Killer900;36813801]Yeah, and blacks will never be able to become president too, right? Fuck their religious beliefs, I don't understand why just because someone's religion tells them that gay can't marry that gives them the right to go around shoving it down other people's throats whether they believe in it or not.[/QUOTE] I don't like your tone, but in theory you are right. I could also care less about a religion "forcing" you to follow the rules of some moldy old book written by a bunch of sexist goat farmers 2000-ish years ago. I mean anyone who thinks religion is a calm and peaceful ideal take a look at the old testament and witness horror beyond imagination.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] Old people can't have babies but they can still get married.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;36821609]Define left wing. That means different things in different countries.[/QUOTE] I sincerely doubt that he's saying that FP is comprised of conservative Nazi-rallying queer-bashers
Ando, keep your pants up, bro. Learn to read into an opinion... The fact is, a gay marriage, in any way perceived, is a blow to the Christian family values. "Atheists" aside, in those insignificant countries, the moral family value is reinforced in the society, by the Churches, by the people themselves. Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none. Call me bias, but I don't support gay marriage. And don't get me started on the adoption options. I can only think of the future social and personal stigmas that child will endure.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808924]En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy[/QUOTE] Wikpedia is NOT a valid source of information. [editline]18th July 2012[/editline] I don't believe you
[QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Ando, keep your pants up, bro. Learn to read into an opinion... The fact is, a gay marriage, in any way perceived, is a blow to the Christian family values. "Atheists" aside, in those insignificant countries, the moral family value is reinforced in the society, by the Churches, by the people themselves. Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none. Call me bias, but I don't support gay marriage. And don't get me started on the adoption options. I can only think of the future social and personal stigmas that child will endure.[/QUOTE] Explain to me why anyone should give a shit about "Christian family values" when it impedes human rights.
[QUOTE=Cone;36821732]I sincerely doubt that he's saying that FP is comprised of conservative Nazi-rallying queer-bashers[/QUOTE] You never know! [editline]18th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Ando, keep your pants up, bro. Learn to read into an opinion... The fact is, a gay marriage, in any way perceived, is a blow to the Christian family values. "Atheists" aside, in those insignificant countries, the moral family value is reinforced in the society, by the Churches, by the people themselves. Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none. Call me bias, but I don't support gay marriage. And don't get me started on the adoption options. I can only think of the future social and personal stigmas that child will endure.[/QUOTE] I like my atheist and gay family values just fine thank you
[QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none.[/QUOTE] look at countries where religion is considered joke, contrast them with countries where religion is considered the ultimate. which country would you prefer to live in?
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[QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none. [/QUOTE] So the majority of people in the most well developed countries like Sweden have no morals?
[QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Ando, keep your pants up, bro. Learn to read into an opinion... The fact is, a gay marriage, in any way perceived, is a blow to the Christian family values. "Atheists" aside, in those insignificant countries, the moral family value is reinforced in the society, by the Churches, by the people themselves. Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none. Call me bias, but I don't support gay marriage. And don't get me started on the adoption options. I can only think of the future social and personal stigmas that child will endure.[/QUOTE]Considering that these countries where religion is considered a joke (i'm assuming you mean Europe, most of you religious nuts do) have, on average, a lower crime rate than most other countries, that hardly does any good for your bullshit "lack of morals" claim. [editline]18th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=stupidass;36809045]No, it's people like you who dismiss people as 'dickholes' for their personal, possibly religious beliefs. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Whether their opinion is credible or not is not for you to decide because you don't know shit about anyone over the internet.[/QUOTE]We [I]are[/I] entitled to ridicule that opinion. Freedom of speech bro, present in most all Western countries.
[QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Ando, keep your pants up, bro. Learn to read into an opinion... The fact is, a gay marriage, in any way perceived, is a blow to the Christian family values. "Atheists" aside, in those insignificant countries, the moral family value is reinforced in the society, by the Churches, by the people themselves. Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none. Call me bias, but I don't support gay marriage. And don't get me started on the adoption options. I can only think of the future social and personal stigmas that child will endure.[/QUOTE] Look, I'm not going to rate you dumb or speak negatively about you just because you were probably raised religious and have been taught accordingly. However, I'll give you my opinion. You talk about people with no moral value being the ones where religion is considered to be a joke. I don't consider religion a joke but I'm an atheist - one that really doesn't care to ponder about what's out there. There could be a God but I'm leaning on no, and I don't think that if there is a God that I'll be damned simply for that thought. I'm gonna have to judge myself on this one, but I think I act alright - I'm a good guy. And I can name off a bunch of people that act in line that aren't religious. I can also give you a bunch of people that are religious and are legitimately bad people. The idea that removing religion out of daily life removes morality is a false one. I'm also friends with people of all religions - ones that push damn hard on their religions and ones that don't. I love 'em all to death, and if my gay friends want to get with gay people and call it a marriage, why not? There is no legitimate reason other than your god told you no. In a country with a million and one religions and deviations of such religions, why are you going to prioritize yours against everyone else's and say that homosexuality is wrong? I mean, you don't see people running around saying, "Don't eat pork!" It's the same thing. Be respectful. You don't have to like it, but to support the prohibition of gay marriage is a logical failure. Also, you talk about the trauma a child will have after being adopted by a gay couple. What's the difference between that and being adopted by a straight couple? The only ones that will stigmatize them are the ones that are religious and can't handle people being different. I'm sorry, this may sound like a diss, but it's people like you that bring that stigmatization onto others. If there wasn't, there would be no stigmatization, and there would be no problems.
[QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Ando, keep your pants up, bro. Learn to read into an opinion... The fact is, a gay marriage, in any way perceived, is a blow to the Christian family values. "Atheists" aside, in those insignificant countries, the moral family value is reinforced in the society, by the Churches, by the people themselves. No? Especially since the United States has Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none. Call me bias, but I don't support gay marriage. And don't get me started on the adoption options. I can only think of the future social and personal stigmas that child will endure.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AaronM202;36821062]Why should one persons religious or personal beliefs affect the lives of other people?[/QUOTE] Seriously dude, why should YOUR beliefs affect someone else? If they love eachother i dont see why they cant marry eachother like anyone else would marry someone they love.
[QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Call me bias, but I don't support gay marriage. And don't get me started on the adoption options. I can only think of the future social and personal stigmas that child will endure.[/QUOTE] Endure from... people like you?
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;36826979]Endure from... people like you?[/QUOTE] Exactly.
[QUOTE=zerothefallen;36809272]bad drum is trying to cover up his homophobia with "GAYS CANT HAVE KIDS" Great argument[/QUOTE] Gay or nay, some people shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;36827325]Gay or nay, some people shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children.[/QUOTE]Sexual orientation is irrelevant though. A homosexual is no more likely to sexually assault a child than a heterosexual is.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] Holy Crap, and I thought my meme posting was bad.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] Surrogacy (for homosexual men), although legal gray area, many place allow it within certain guidelines. And sperm bank for lesbians. also there's adopting.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36828238]barring the fact that the rest of your post is complete bullshit and everyone else will debunk it to hell this part i had the most hatred towards if a child is raised by gay/lesbian parents, in a society where being gay/lesbian is no longer a bad thing, then what the fuck is going to hurt the child, gay virus or some shit you'll probably make up?[/QUOTE] What pisses me off the most about it is implies that gay adoption should be illegal because of the way elements of society view it. What's next? Should we not allow black people to adopt white children and vice versa simply because there are racists who would throw a fit over it?
[QUOTE=irukandji;36821840]Ando, keep your pants up, bro. Learn to read into an opinion... The fact is, a gay marriage, in any way perceived, is a blow to the Christian family values. "Atheists" aside, in those insignificant countries, the moral family value is reinforced in the society, by the Churches, by the people themselves. Now, going back to other major countries, where religion is considered a joke, gay marriage might be considered, since there are no real moral values to consider, since people in those major countries have less or none. Call me bias, but I don't support gay marriage. And don't get me started on the adoption options. I can only think of the future social and personal stigmas that child will endure.[/QUOTE] How are you even able to breathe?
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;36829681]How are you even able to breathe?[/QUOTE] Like I said, that's probably how he was brought up which is why I'm not calling him stupid or anything because he isn't - he was just brought up like that.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808986]Yes, because they can if they wanted to. Gays is they cant, even if they wanted to[/QUOTE] Gays is they cant, and Dan was boobies.
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