Roman nails that a new documentary claims could have been used to crucify Jesus Christ
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[QUOTE=Gekkosan;29159145]Highly possible that a man was crucified, who is known as "the Jesus", who died for his "stupid" beliefs like "thou shalt not kill, steal, rape" or whatever he said to those people who got so pissed they nailed him into a cross.
So you'll realize it was probably just a murder, and that things hasn't really changed since then, and we've babbled over nothing basically, in religiousness and all.[/QUOTE]
do you ever say anything useful at all
[QUOTE=TBleader;29157896]We have writings from non-Christians that a guy named Jesus from (whatever the city was called) is doing shit in the nearby area. We know there was a Jesus, and we know he was crucified. The real question is, is he really the son of a god and did he really do all those miracles.[/QUOTE]
Uhm, no, there's 3 main sources I know of that report Jesus's existence, but they all put him as a minor, almost normal person undeserving of mention, like he was just in the right place at the right time. You'd think the son of god would get a pretty important mention.
Then there's also the fact the bibles a fictitious writing, and that all the "witnesses" and corroborating evidence was all reported long after his death.
If there was a Jesus Christ, which is unlikely, he was very much a normal man.
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[QUOTE=Gekkosan;29159145]Highly possible that a man was crucified, who is known as "the Jesus", who died for his "stupid" beliefs like "thou shalt not kill, steal, rape" or whatever he said to those people who got so pissed they nailed him into a cross.
So you'll realize it was probably just a murder, and that things hasn't really changed since then, and we've babbled over nothing basically, in religiousness and all.[/QUOTE]
Man are you dumb. You think he came up with those? They existed about 1800 years before. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi[/url]
Please go get educated.
And show me where I called the believes stupid? They're baseless, but I never called them stupid. I can call them stupid for you if you want at least one thing in your post to make sense.
Wait, are we trying to prove some sort of religious significance here?
I mean, I wouldn't have trouble believing that Jesus was a real guy who got popular and eventually nailed to a cross. That's just normal history to me.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29136959]again, all conjecture. Can you even prove there was a Jesus nailed to a cross?[/QUOTE]
He was a person no doubt. People just argue on his significance. Some actually believe( at the time ) that he was going to be a warlord to kick the Romans out of Israel.
[QUOTE=crackberry;29160517]He was a person no doubt. People just argue on his significance. Some actually believe( at the time ) that he was going to be a warlord to kick the Romans out of Israel.[/QUOTE]
Of course, it's also possible (indeed, very likely considering the numerous philosophical and iconographic similarities he bears to Zoroaster, the prophet of the Zoroastrian religion, as well as several other different half-god half-mortal deities) that he was merely fictional all the way around and based off various figures both real and mythical from the time that were considered by many to be real and important.
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This much is certain: if he was a real person who was Middle Eastern, he looked nothing like the way classical portrayals of him show.
[media]http://faithfool.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/white-jesus.jpg[/media]
WAY too European.
Jesus was just a prophet just like the ones before him. He is the prophet who helped spread and start Christianity. I doubt he had magical powers and I doubt he was the 'son of god'. He was a good man who wanted to spread the quality of peace throughout Rome. Some Christans today go downright against his teachings, misinterpreting them or just ignoring them. He was a man who told stories of people doing good deeds and moral lessons. These teachings where later wrote down in the bible. People dont understand that the bible is a moral guideline. Not everything in it is fact. I doubt these nails where used to crucify him. People need to understand Jesus wasnt an all mighty powerful being. Just a storyteller, peacemaker and prophet.
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[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;29160700]
This much is certain: if he was a real person who was Middle Eastern, he looked nothing like the way classical portrayals of him show.
[media]http://faithfool.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/white-jesus.jpg[/media]
WAY too European.[/QUOTE]
That is just the Europeans twisting him around to their own image.
[QUOTE=dvc;29161045]Jesus was just a prophet just like the ones before him. He is the prophet who helped spread and start Christianity. I doubt he had magical powers and I doubt he was the 'son of god'. He was a good man who wanted to spread the quality of peace throughout Rome. Some Christans today go downright against his teachings, misinterpreting them or just ignoring them. He was a man who told stories of people doing good deeds and moral lessons. These teachings where later wrote down in the bible. People dont understand that the bible is a moral guideline. Not everything in it is fact. I doubt these nails where used to crucify him. People need to understand Jesus wasnt an all mighty powerful being. Just a storyteller, peacemaker and prophet.
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That is just the Europeans twisting him around to their own image.[/QUOTE]
yes, it is a moral guideline
its just a fucking horrible one
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29161368]yes, it is a moral guideline
its just a fucking horrible one[/QUOTE]
A bunch of dumb fucks just misinterpreted it into a clusterfuck of a religon
[QUOTE=Splarg!;29160265]Wait, are we trying to prove some sort of religious significance here?
I mean, I wouldn't have trouble believing that Jesus was a real guy who got popular and eventually nailed to a cross. That's just normal history to me.[/QUOTE]
but...bu...but...MAIN SOURCES!!!!!
[QUOTE=Firespray;29141425]Clone Jesus with any blood found on the nails.[/QUOTE]
Don't Christians oppose cloning? If they do, I guess they can't have their Jesus back.
[QUOTE=dvc;29162041]A bunch of dumb fucks just misinterpreted it into a clusterfuck of a religon[/QUOTE]
Wrong.
The old testament existed first, yes? The old testament offers mostly terrible morals(Stone disobedient kids being the one that pops to mind), yes? Jesus did say not to forget or go against the old testament? Yeah, he did. So he was behind people killing disobedient kids.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29164438]Wrong.
The old testament existed first, yes? The old testament offers mostly terrible morals(Stone disobedient kids being the one that pops to mind), yes? Jesus did say not to forget or go against the old testament? Yeah, he did. So he was behind people killing disobedient kids.[/QUOTE]
jesus: famous supporter of child murder.
[QUOTE=Justjake274;29137104]Most likely, there WAS a Jesus Christ, but only some people believed he had any significance[/QUOTE]
The first ever Jesus Christ was born in Mexico. Like all the other Jesus's.
[QUOTE=Ziron;29164744]jesus: famous supporter of child murder.[/QUOTE]
think about it logically, I'm not trying to say he's a bad man, I'm just following the logic of events, and it was a joke
but hey, jokes on facepunch are dumb
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