The New Windows Boss Imagines A Horrible Future Where The 'Vast Majority' Of PCs Are Touch Screen - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38827331]Why not just have a tough screen [I]and[/I] a mouse and keyboard?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] You’ll use the mouse and keyboard, but even on the regular desktop you’ll find yourself reaching up doing the things that are faster than moving the mouse and moving the mouse around.[/QUOTE]

Touch screens are just... So unreliable. It's form over function, if you ask me.

[QUOTE=dark soul;38828431]Hahaha,No. You expect power users to use Photoshop,3ds Max, Maya, After Effects, or any art program without keyboard shortcuts? Yeah No.[/QUOTE] To be fair, a good portion of people in that industry already use wacom tablets. The thing is, I've yet to see a touchscreen that can even pretend to come close to half of what a high end drawing tablet can do. Touch based input without pressure sensitivity is a lot less useful, and even disregarding that, they still use keyboards for, as you said, shortcuts.

Let's combine touch with a mouse and let say we have a pointer in the screen that'll go with our touch instead of instant press so we can be sure we pressed something. Then we could have a button to press sort of like clicking on a mouse to click on the spot.

Eww touch screens are dumb

I could see something like this becoming more popular, if it weren't for the price/performance ratio [img]http://www.open-pandora.org/images/stories/start/1.jpg[/img] [editline]14th December 2012[/editline] Or a new Xperia Play-like phone, with built-in keyboard.

touch interface on devices other than mobile phones is a gimmick

Doesn't say anywhere that keyboards and mice are going to go away. And to be honest, touchscreens and classic input seem like a pretty awesome combo. [editline]14th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=dark soul;38828431]Hahaha,No. You expect power users to use Photoshop,3ds Max, Maya, After Effects, or any art program without keyboard shortcuts? Yeah No.[/QUOTE] I can totally see touchscreens used together with normal input, gestures and stuff. Do what you normally do, but instead of switching to a special tool to, say, rotate an object in 3D space, you could use your fingers.

honestly if touchscreens are the way of the future we'll need to use little styluses to use them or we get huge as fuck monitors for them because theres no way a human finger can press any small link like a mouse could.

My laptop is actually a tablet PC. Turns out the screen itself is actually a Wacom tablet. Literally has all the features of a standalone Wacom tablet, and has a stylus too. I find myself using the touch, kb, and mouse equally on Windows 8. Since I can flip the screen around I can use it as a tablet as well, I can use the news apps with touch rather comfortably. Gets about 9 hours of battery life (which makes me laugh at people with gaming laptops when they are glued to a outlet). Sure, it isn't super powerful, but that's not what I'm looking for in a laptop. If anything, tablet PCs are the best candidates for Windows 8 since they can pretty much fulfill any role better than a true tablet ever can. It's why I don't want a true tablet, I have my Tablet PC.

[QUOTE=papaya;38827357]my school recently invested in touch screen monitors for half our computer rooms really the only benefit a touch screen has for a student is that its easier to lean over and close the work of people around you[/QUOTE] Typical school "throw money at it" budget

Tablets should be tablets and PCs as we know them should remain that way. Although I suppose the drop in developers and people becoming interested in PC development (due to only having interaction with un-moddable games, shitty touch screens, everything already being made) will decrease the amount of competition and make for explosive profits for anyone who actually does look further than face value and into how to actually [i]make[/i] stuff. As long as development/ high end PCs are always still available.

No. Just no. Touch screen will only ever be an alternative in the future. The vast majority of smartphone user prefer an physical qwerty keyboard than a virtual touch screen. God forbid computer keyboards should become touch screen. You would never get anything done.

[QUOTE=borisvdb;38830714]You would never get anything done.[/QUOTE] Yeah i kinda feel that's what they want. Less developers means they can corner all the markets. [i]Die Microsoft.[/i] Viva la alternative.

holy biased titles batman

Ugh no. Give me voice commands (with the interface and utilities to actually make good use of it) +mouse and keyboard instead, please

[QUOTE=nagachief;38830403]My laptop is actually a tablet PC. Turns out the screen itself is actually a Wacom tablet. Literally has all the features of a standalone Wacom tablet, and has a stylus too. I find myself using the touch, kb, and mouse equally on Windows 8. Since I can flip the screen around I can use it as a tablet as well, I can use the news apps with touch rather comfortably. Gets about 9 hours of battery life (which makes me laugh at people with gaming laptops when they are glued to a outlet). Sure, it isn't super powerful, but that's not what I'm looking for in a laptop. If anything, tablet PCs are the best candidates for Windows 8 since they can pretty much fulfill any role better than a true tablet ever can. It's why I don't want a true tablet, I have my Tablet PC.[/QUOTE] what laptop is that

[QUOTE=Mattk50;38830927]Ugh no. Give me voice commands (with the interface and utilities to actually make good use of it) +mouse and keyboard instead, please[/QUOTE] I'd rather have voice + touch + mouse and keyboard. [editline]14th December 2012[/editline] I'd rather see it taken a step beyond touch, though. Currently, touch screens operate on a two dimensional space. I would like to see a Kinect or something used to record gestures on the third dimension as well.

if any of you seriously think that in 5 years from now every monitor won't be touch screen you need to get with the fucking times. We're moving into a future where touch will be the dominant force. Get the fuck over it. As long as I can touch as well as keyboard-mouse I'll be okay with that. Nobody said anything about getting rid of normal keyboard/mouse interfaces. Personally, I'd see myself using touch on my laptop if I were, say, in a cramped airplane or a train or bus, where it helps to be conservative with my room.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;38830409]Typical school "throw money at it" budget[/QUOTE] And then they complain about not having enough funds. It's disgustingly wasteful.

No. We don't live in Fucking Star Trek.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38831558]No. We don't live in Fucking Star Trek.[/QUOTE] "Who cares how practical it is! It sounds futuristic so I don't want it!"

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38827331]Why not just have a tough screen [i]and[/i] a mouse and keyboard?[/QUOTE] Because that would be too easy.

Even if I had a touch screen monitor, I wouldn't use it. How awkward is it to reach 2 feet in front of me to do things a simple mouse click can do while I can rest my arm. And I don't want to have a folding monitor that goes down to a 90 degree angle and pulls up to my chest unless it's a Waco Cintique

Touch screens do work quite nicely for some things, largely design things. Being able to naturally sketch shapes, manipulate 3D objects, and so forth are a lot more friendly on touch device. Sure they may not be as "precise", but that is probably down to two things; your panel being a piece of shit/ uncalabrated, or your fat fingers. Touch technology does work, and for some tasks is beneficial. Though I wouldn't want to see it replace the keyboard and mouse input we use today, it does work fairly well as a complement. reaching forward slightly is a pain, but not experience ruining. If you are reaching far enough to cause pain, look for a higher DPI monitor or something, because holy shit you must have your monitor so far back.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;38827634]Once you've experienced it you'll never go back? Speak for yourself. I have a laptop with a touch screen running Windows 8. I never use the touch screen. It's a terrible way to interact with a personal computer.[/QUOTE] This so much. The only times I ever use the touch screen on my Transformer are when it's undocked and when I'm playing games since most Android games don't have hardware keyboard support. [editline]14th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mattk50;38830927]Ugh no. Give me voice commands (with the interface and utilities to actually make good use of it) +mouse and keyboard instead, please[/QUOTE] Windows already has voice command support, it's just not practical because of how programs are designed to have most functions under drop down menus and some buttons named the same.

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;38831558]No. We don't live in Fucking Star Trek.[/QUOTE] I want to live in Star Trek. *sadface*

Just...no. Any kind of data entry or precise manipulation is impossibly inefficient on a touchscreen. Time for Linux to finally become user-friendly and give us a viable alternative to the touch-centered, walled garden bullshit future that Apple and Microsoft want to force us all into.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;38833609]Just...no. Any kind of data entry or precise manipulation is impossibly inefficient on a touchscreen. Time for Linux to finally become user-friendly and give us a viable alternative to the touch-centered, walled garden bullshit future that Apple and Microsoft want to force us all into.[/QUOTE] Still not seeing this whole "walled garden" shit Microsoft are meant to be forcing us into. If you mean the Metro UI and Start Screen, you are horribly misinformed as it works pretty well with a mouse and keyboard, if you mean the Windows Store, well it isn't doing too well to be honest, so I can't see MS sticking to it.

I hate this touch bullshit.