The New Windows Boss Imagines A Horrible Future Where The 'Vast Majority' Of PCs Are Touch Screen
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I'd love this idea if they had both at the same time.
I mean shit, touch is cool and all but we still need the mouse. Having a touchscreen monitor would be amazing.
[QUOTE=nagachief;38830403]If anything, tablet PCs are the best candidates for Windows 8 since they can pretty much fulfill any role better than a true tablet ever can. It's why I don't want a true tablet, I have my Tablet PC.[/QUOTE]
If you ask me, tablet PCs are the "true" tablets, and things like iPads/the Nexus 7 are just digital clipboards and ebook readers.
[QUOTE=Jon27;38827962]Try tapping everything you click on your monitor for a full work day. I bet your arms will fucking hurt. Then try typing out an essay on an iPad, which has no depression reaction when you type like on a keyboard. If you don't immediately start to feel pain, your joints and finger bones will get all screwed up the longer you type on a touchscreen for. This idea is just so filled with awful.[/QUOTE]
Most people I know who are practically ditching their laptops for tablets always buy a keyboard to do school work with because writing an essay on a touch keyboard is the ultimate type of torture
Damn imagine if you had to touch every thing
[QUOTE=hexpunK;38833870]the Windows Store, well it isn't doing too well to be honest, so I can't see MS sticking to it.[/QUOTE]
I am certain they have every intention of sticking with it, even when it's run into the ground and their last desperate measures to make it great have failed.
It was a purely greed-motivated move and based on their actions as of late, was simply their to 'get a slice of the pie' (like they did with their shitty, shitty tablets) and didn't have any real thought put into them or enough time spent in the optimization of.
[QUOTE=dark soul;38828431]Hahaha,No.
You expect power users to use Photoshop,3ds Max, Maya, After Effects, or any art program without keyboard shortcuts?
Yeah No.[/QUOTE]
No, they're not. Microsoft has stated that they want to keep keyboard and mouse, but use touch along with it. It's even subtly stated in the article, and there's a reason why Microsoft tried so hard to make a highly portable keyboard for the Surface.
I have a brand new Windows 8 laptop and it's actually a pretty good computer. I find myself using the touch screen more than I thought I would; and anyway, it's cool that it has it whether I plan on using it a lot or not. I'm sure some game will come along with a use for it, so it's worth having it.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38834821]I am certain they have every intention of sticking with it, even when it's run into the ground and their last desperate measures to make it great have failed.
It was a purely greed-motivated move and based on their actions as of late, was simply their to 'get a slice of the pie' (like they did with their shitty, shitty tablets) and didn't have any real thought put into them or enough time spent in the optimization of.[/QUOTE]
Funny because Google Nexus tabs are the furthest thing from optimized.
The thing is slow as fuck from when I first booted the damn thing up. Surface and other MS tablets are much more smooth.
I really don't like using touch screens. It's not "natural" to use one if there's no feedback of some kind. And I definitely don't want to touch anything I find on the internet.
Besides that, a "compromise" is a terrible idea. I want a keyboard and mouse only, with no wasted development on something I'll never use. Make a separate wide-market product for that shit.
Unless they can make it so you get the same sort of feel and feedback in a touch screen that you get with a keyboard/mouse then it's not going to work.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38834821]I am certain they have every intention of sticking with it, even when it's run into the ground and their last desperate measures to make it great have failed.
It was a purely greed-motivated move and based on their actions as of late, was simply their to 'get a slice of the pie' (like they did with their shitty, shitty tablets) and didn't have any real thought put into them or enough time spent in the optimization of.[/QUOTE]
shitty shitty tablets?
I remember back when phones/PC's didn't have touch at all and if someone did have a touch phone it was like
"Holy shit you have a touch screen phone!"
Now it's like
"Oh a touch screen...that's kinda cool i guess"
I'd be fine with it if you could still hook up mouse and keyboard peripherals. Otherwise, no.
I also like those laptop convertible things. Having a tablet without really losing the power of having a laptop.
I think it'd be neat to have a standard primary monitor then a touchscreen one as a second.
[QUOTE=Swilly;38827345]Honestly, I have to agree with him. Its generally heading in that direction.[/QUOTE]
you didnt even read the first line of the article, it's a woman
I use a tablet for browsing the internet, and honestly I like it a lot more than browsing on a PC. The only problem I have with touchscreens is that it takes ages to write text.
I don't see any point on having touch screens on a device that you can't hold in your hands.
[QUOTE=papaya;38830364]honestly if touchscreens are the way of the future we'll need to use little styluses to use them or we get huge as fuck monitors for them because theres no way a human finger can press any small link like a mouse could.[/QUOTE]
predictive hit areas.
And in most cases you aren't looking at massive packs of links next to each other.
I'd love a combination of Touchscreens and physical peripherals. Having purely touch screen though would not be ideal in a desktop environment. Though if they do become more commonplace among mice and keyboards it would be interesting to see how developers incorporate touch functions in video games. I think it'd be cool to use keypads and other user functions in a video game by touching the screen in the appropriate place.
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;38837907]I think it'd be neat to have a standard primary monitor then a touchscreen one as a second.[/QUOTE]
i think it would be nice to have both monitors as touchscreens
Touch screens aren't the future. A combination of current peripherals (keyboard + mouse) and something along the lines of [url="https://leapmotion.com/"]Leap Motion[/url] is.
[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;38839678]Touch screens aren't the future. A combination of current peripherals (keyboard + mouse) and something along the lines of [url="https://leapmotion.com/"]Leap Motion[/url] is.[/QUOTE]
That seems more like an evolution of touch technology to remove the biggest flaw it has, you have to actually touch the peripheral. Looks pretty interesting, and very sci-fi at times.
Come back to me when the technology has actually gained some foothold in the market.
I can't stand computers with touch screens. I feel very stressed if there's a single fingerprint or speckle of dirt on my monitor. My friend has this touch screen/keyboard laptop and it has a fair amount of smudges, it drives me nuts. I couldn't game or work or anything with such screen. The touchless touch "Leap Motion" thing looks neat but I don't think I'd use it since it requires me to lift my arms from keyboard/mouse but then again I've never used that so can't be sure.
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also, this, CLEANING THEM.[/QUOTE]
Did you do finger painting with your tablet?
Hopefully it doesn't end up with normal input methods becoming more expensive due to reduced demand; bloody arseache to play any game other than little flash games (and possibly RTSes) with touch controls.
[QUOTE=kragmars102;38841354]Did you do finger painting with your tablet?[/QUOTE]
I don't actually own/use any tablets
my sister does though, that's not the tablet but it pretty much looks the same
I think that's a huge over reaction. It's not like Windows is suddenly going to stop supporting the mouse and keyboard. Holy Shit Kotaku is biased.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;38842003]I think that's a huge over reaction. It's not like Windows is suddenly going to stop supporting the mouse and keyboard. Holy Shit Kotaku is biased.[/QUOTE]
sometimes i wonder why they're allowed as a source in this section
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also, this, CLEANING THEM.[/QUOTE]
Any long-sleeved, clean shirt works. Just press your arm gently against the screen and run in one direction. This even works for my touchscreen monitor (which, despite the article, I actually don't use that much)
Also the thicker the material the better.
[QUOTE=lavacano;38842061]sometimes i wonder why they're allowed as a source in this section[/QUOTE]
I think they should be the only source allowed in this section. Can't get much more sensationalist.
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