[QUOTE=Kopimi;32773551]ITT: Nobody bothering to think about how this will all be paid for[/QUOTE]
clearly we will save money on all those abortions those whores are getting
[QUOTE=Ridge;32773755]They do what they always do. They take our money, and then give some of it back to us and tell us how they are so awesome for doing that.[/QUOTE]
Are you part of the 1%?
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[QUOTE=Kopimi;32773551]ITT: Nobody bothering to think about how this will all be paid for[/QUOTE]
They're paying for it by having a slight tax increase on millionaires, which is still at a lower rate than it was under Reagan.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32773551]ITT: Nobody bothering to think about how this will all be paid for[/QUOTE]
ITT: We forget basic Keynesian economics in favor of all the other shit tried since it went out of style that ruined the fucking economy.
It's called deficit spending. 1930-1938. Third new deal afterwards. WWII. Deficit went up, then came back down, because, holy shit, the government spending on labor got the economy moving. All you guys want to talk about how shit will be "paid for" like you've never run a business in your life. You take out a loan, you buy gear, you make some money, you pay it off. This was an equipment purchase, not the same dipshitty "toss money at whatever" crap a lot of recent initiatives have been and you seem to think it was.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;32772694]No, their left-most members would be progressive which isn't center at all.
Anyways I wasn't talking about Democrats. I sure as hell am not a Democrat. I was talking about us, as in Facepunch, which is predominantly left, especially among the most outspoken members.[/QUOTE]
American Progressivism is Centre-Left, akin to Social Democratic groups in many European nations. A 'Leftist' is a Socialist or Communist generally, so referring to the Progressives as Leftist or even portraying the Democratic party as anything but Centrist is wholly incorrect.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;32776509]They're paying for it by having a slight tax increase on millionaires, which is still at a lower rate than it was under Reagan.[/QUOTE]
It's too bad that [b]oh my god you can't raise taxes during a recession what an asshole raising taxes on the American people like that you must hate America RICK PERRY '12[/b]
I consider napkins gay. Brawny Paper Towels FTW!
[QUOTE=Map in a box;32786353]I consider napkins gay. Brawny Paper Towels FTW![/QUOTE]
???
For those saying that the Repubs are going to get elected - keep in mind, according to the polls, public opinion is [I]very[/I] against them. In fact, we might even see another swing like the 2010 election, except the other way.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32784285]American Progressivism is Centre-Left, akin to Social Democratic groups in many European nations. A 'Leftist' is a Socialist or Communist generally, so referring to the Progressives as Leftist or even portraying the Democratic party as anything but Centrist is wholly incorrect.[/QUOTE]
No it's not. It's leftist. Thinking that Progressivism or Social Democracy is anywhere near centrist is wholly incorrect. Hell, social democracy is as far left as you can get before socialism.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;32776509]Are you part of the 1%?[/QUOTE]
Damn, you're on to me. My 15 year old car didn't hide my nearly unlimited wealth as well as I'd hoped.
[QUOTE=Ridge;32789151]Damn, you're on to me. My 15 year old car didn't hide my nearly unlimited wealth as well as I'd hoped.[/QUOTE]
A car from 1995 aint that old bro. Also at least you have one.
[QUOTE=Ridge;32789151]Damn, you're on to me. My 15 year old car didn't hide my nearly unlimited wealth as well as I'd hoped.[/QUOTE]
Try a rusted up 1986 Ford Bastard Wagon that's in desperate need of new tires and a replacement rim.
[QUOTE=Ridge;32773755]They do what they always do. They take our money, and then give some of it back to us and tell us how they are so awesome for doing that.[/QUOTE]
who's they and our? cut the us and them crap please.
[QUOTE=thisispain;32789474]who's they and our? cut the us and them crap please.[/QUOTE]
They is government, our is the citizenry.
[QUOTE=Ridge;32789594]They is government, our is the citizenry.[/QUOTE]
the "citizenry" such as myself do not agree with you so don't make statements where you speak for us mkay? thanks in advance
[QUOTE=yawmwen;32788204]No it's not. It's leftist. Thinking that Progressivism or Social Democracy is anywhere near centrist is wholly incorrect. Hell, social democracy is as far left as you can get before socialism.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre-left[/url]
"The main ideologies of the centre-left are progressivism, social liberalism and social democracy, although it can also include democratic socialism and green politics."
Don't be stupid.
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In America, this is what 'Leftist' is: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_of_America[/url]
This is what Centre-Left is: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_%28United_States,_1912%29[/url]
The Democratic Party is a big tent party, with members ranging from Right-Leaning-Centrist to Centre-Left.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;32789261]A car from 1995 aint that old bro. Also at least you have one.[/QUOTE]
Are you guys really going to start playing the "NO IM POORER!!" game?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32790952]Are you guys really going to start playing the "NO IM POORER!!" game?[/QUOTE]
I have to wear the same shoe on [I]both feet.[/I]
[QUOTE=stepat201;32771290]I'm no expert on the history of US politics but I know the country has been run many times by Republicans over the last century, why is it that it's so bad all of the sudden?[/QUOTE]
The Republican party of long ago was comprised of very intelligent, very sane people. The Republican party of today has damn near become the complete opposite. A good majority are fucking crazy, or are media attention whores. The only Republicans that DO have pretty decent ideas wind up getting ignored because "Oh look, Michelle Bachmann said something silly! Let's make a news story about it that takes up half the fucking day!"
Sorry if I end up sounding like an asshole, I'm just venting my rage here.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;32790952]Are you guys really going to start playing the "NO IM POORER!!" game?[/QUOTE]
I have to walk to work 8 miles through the snow. It's uphill...both ways.
I'm poorer.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;32795364]I have to walk to work 8 miles through the snow. It's uphill...both ways.
I'm poorer.[/QUOTE]
I buy stuff all the time.
I'm poorer.
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