Protests as BBC lets BNP's Nick Griffin on 'Question Time' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Giner;17961926]hezzys gunna die, hes a red[/QUOTE]Heh heh heh....

This is a democracy, let him have his say. [editline]09:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Killergam;17960675]True that, what people forget, is major immigration, to turn us into a multicultrial society, has only happened in the last 40 years. What they really want is to stop that, and turn away any new immigrants, Britian was a white country before, and the tories are the ones who started turning us into a multicultrial society, no one really wanted it, but they did it anyway. Labour thought cool, extra people to fill our jobs, and took it onboard as a major policy, they figured that the immigrants would vote for them, but things are starting to change, as even the immigrants want immigrantion to stop. The country is full, and everyone is getting tired of new immigrants coming to the uk. That's why BNP have a chance to get in, They arn't really racist, it's just another label given by other partys to put them down. Kinda like what we call Tories "Snobs" or Labour "Trash" although, you may as well call labour "New Tories", they are so far left now, it's pathetic, i actually think they are further left than the Tories themselves.[/QUOTE] You're falling for what the BNP want you to think. They are undeniably racist but are trying to hide it.

Apparently he got "pasted"

[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8321566.stm[/url] Here are some clips from the show, Nick Griffin is such a cunt for pulling a desperate blow by talking about Jack Straw's father.

That was a low blow about Jack Straw's father. No relevance to the question what so ever.

[QUOTE=zpiscool;17961425] I saw a guy with a name I'm damn sure was yours on an old HL2 mod's forum. Website's down now though, think the mod's gone too.[/QUOTE] Was it D.E.A.D mod?

What's this about Jack Straw's father? Am I missing something? Griffin just seemed to rant about the RAF and shit. And what's with the construction paper poppies?

[QUOTE=Killergam;17960675]although, you may as well call labour "New Tories", they are so far left now, it's pathetic, i actually think they are further left than the Tories themselves.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/Oi/cardboard-box-open-lg.jpg[/img]

Loving question time, i'm just finding it hilarious.

[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;17963035]What's this about Jack Straw's father? Am I missing something? Griffin just seemed to rant about the RAF and shit. And what's with the construction paper poppies?[/QUOTE] It's remembrance day here in England in a couple of weeks.

And that's the design of them? I thought the design we had in Canada was the same used worldwide. These ones look homemade. =\

I'm recording it but I just watched a bit where he was telling a Muslim about how his religion is 'disgraceful' and that Britain should remain a Christian country, seems pretty interesting. [editline]11:11PM[/editline] He got a few claps from it too

I am personally glad he was allowed on (it finished a few minutes ago). His popularity was lower than anyone else's has ever been on that show. Seriously, he came accross as a fucking moron. Which is rather true, isn't it? I think this'll put a serious dent in the BNP's popularity. [editline]11:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Triumph Forks;17963035]What's this about Jack Straw's father? Am I missing something? Griffin just seemed to rant about the RAF and shit. And what's with the construction paper poppies?[/QUOTE] Griffin's best comeback in a political debate is apparently "my dad is better than your dad". How totally irrelevant and moronic.

[QUOTE=Splurgy;17960480]Yeah, having morals is so faggy (YES I AM AWARE OF THE ORIGIN OF THE PHRASE :downs: )[/QUOTE] What do you think morals are?

Jesus Christ that was some funny shit to watch. "I met up with the non-violent Ku Klux Klan! It's cool guys!" Host - "We have pictures and quotes proving you met with a revered Ku Klux Klan Leader" Nick - "NO YOU DON'T! I WAS NEVER THERE. SHUT THE DOOR." I also found it hilarious when some guy had to ask a question and he was blatantly some homeless guy who had staggered into the studio. He was dirty, had about two teeth and was wearing a ripped reebox tracksuit. He just kind of yelled into the microphone.

[QUOTE=kizza55;17964435]"I met up with the non-violent Ku Klux Klan! It's cool guys!"[/QUOTE] "Racism doesn't matter if you're not a murderer :razz:"

lol he got raped like a one eyed racist.

[QUOTE=Dude Meister;17964252]I am personally glad he was allowed on (it finished a few minutes ago). His popularity was lower than anyone else's has ever been on that show. Seriously, he came accross as a fucking moron. Which is rather true, isn't it? I think this'll put a serious dent in the BNP's popularity. [editline]11:50PM[/editline] Griffin's best comeback in a political debate is apparently "my dad is better than your dad". How totally irrelevant and moronic.[/QUOTE] Ahhh, Thought it might've meant something more than that. Thanks.

Good show. Griffin surprisingly performed "ok", considering he was literally getting the shit ripped out of him for an hour.

[QUOTE=Benf199105;17964552]Good show. Griffin surprisingly performed "ok", considering he was literally getting the shit ripped out of him for an hour.[/QUOTE] No he didn't. Look at his body language. All that defense-mechanism laughing, the nervous fidgetting... And he just totally contradicted himself several times and then there was that low-blow where he just insulted Jack Straw's father for no very good reason.

Many people are making connections and such between the BNP and Nazi party, but dosent the BNp condemn and reject the Nazi party's action during ww2 and such?

[QUOTE=Dude Meister;17964692]No he didn't. Look at his body language. All that defense-mechanism laughing, the nervous fidgetting... And he just totally contradicted himself several times and then there was that low-blow where he just insulted Jack Straw's father for no very good reason.[/QUOTE] What are you talking about. He was literally a scapegoat for everyone for an hour, and he didn't do too bad. I don't know what you were watching but he handled himself quite well considering nigh on 200 people were shouting and hurling shit for an hour at him, and with all the problems before hand. This is a democracy, his views are just as equal as any other. [QUOTE=BusterBluth;17964743]Many people are making connections and such between the BNP and Nazi party, but dosent the BNp condemn and reject the Nazi party's action during ww2 and such?[/QUOTE] Officially yes they do. But to be honest, Griffin was a holocaust denier and firmly believed that the Nazi's didn't carry out the holocaust, and griffin was also alleged to have celebrated the anniversary of hitler's birthday. We don't truly know the stance on anything, because to a camera Griffin is never going to say "Yes we love the nazi party" because then he has an eve smaller chance of getting votes.

[QUOTE=Benf199105;17964763]What are you talking about. He was literally a scapegoat for everyone for an hour, and he didn't do too bad. I don't know what you were watching but he handled himself quite well considering nigh on 200 people were shouting and hurling shit for an hour at him, and with all the problems before hand. This is a democracy, his views are just as equal as any other.[/QUOTE] So how could it have gone worse for him? Only way I can think of would be if he didn't have a couple of supporters in the studio. Hey, I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to express his opinions, that's democracy, I was never one of those protestors who didn't want him to appear... I just mean I think he got a LOT of negative publicity from that show.

[QUOTE=Dude Meister;17964889]So how could it have gone worse for him? Only way I can think of would be if he didn't have a couple of supporters in the studio. Hey, I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to express his opinions, that's democracy, I was never one of those protestors who didn't want him to appear... I just mean I think he got a LOT of negative publicity from that show.[/QUOTE] It could never have gone well that is my point. He was put there as a punching bag for an hour, and surprisingly maintained a somewhat calm demenour considering that fact. I'm not pro BNP at all, but he made some fair points in the show, and it is stupid to simply not listen to anything he says based on the reputation of the party. He only got negative publicity from people who already hated him. The people who voted BNP, will probably not have watched this show. People that care about politics will watch the show, and most of these people are too smart to know that the BNP is not a credible option. If anything Griffin alienated himself from educated voters further. But he will have strengthened his core voters due to the fact that he pressed all the right buttons. Anti War, Anti immigration and for example anti-homosexual education and so on.

[QUOTE=Benf199105;17964932]It could never have gone well that is my point. He was put there as a punching bag for an hour, and surprisingly maintained a somewhat calm demenour considering that fact. I'm not pro BNP at all, but he made some fair points in the show, and it is stupid to simply not listen to anything he says based on the reputation of the party. He only got negative publicity from people who already hated him. The people who voted BNP, will probably not have watched this show. People that care about politics will watch the show, and most of these people are too smart to know that the BNP is not a credible option. If anything Griffin alienated himself from educated voters further. But he will have strengthened his core voters due to the fact that he pressed all the right buttons. Anti War, Anti immigration and for example anti-homosexual education and so on.[/QUOTE] I understand what you meant now, and I think I agree wholly. Yeah, that anti-homosexual education thing... at first I was like "it's true a lot of society thinks kids are too young to learn about sex and sexuality, but personally I think people should learn it whenever. It's just nature." Then he said something about homosexuals 'preaching' to schoolchildren and any ounce of agreement vanished. He made a point or two that were good, I'll admit. I mean, nobody is ONLY bad or ONLY good. But in general, I'd say the negative much outweighed the positive.

[QUOTE=Dude Meister;17965049]I understand what you meant now, and I think I agree wholly. Yeah, that anti-homosexual education thing... at first I was like "it's true a lot of society thinks kids are too young to learn about sex and sexuality, but personally I think people should learn it whenever. It's just nature." Then he said something about homosexuals 'preaching' to schoolchildren and any ounce of agreement vanished. He made a point or two that were good, I'll admit. I mean, nobody is ONLY bad or ONLY good. But in general, I'd say the negative much outweighed the positive.[/QUOTE] Yeh sorry i didn't word it well first time round. The negatives did outweigh the positives, i mean this whole indigenous thing went badly from him, as the lady on the right pointed out that we are all descendant from Neanderthals and that they originated in Africa, it blatantly calls him out as a racist. What's more, this whole indigenous this is stupid, the original population of the UK was systematically destroyed by Viking invasions, wars, Romans and the French. There are very few, if any, true "English" people left, so the BNP doesn't have a leg to stand on in respects to representing the indigenous people. They won't make any more inroads i don't think. People were quite shocked when they got in, so next election i don't think they will continue with the support they got. I think more people will turn up to vote just to keep the BNP out, as alot of people just did not vote in the last by-elections because of the scandal of MP's expenses.

[QUOTE=Benf199105;17965121]Yeh sorry i didn't word it well first time round. The negatives did outweigh the positives, i mean this whole indigenous thing went badly from him, as the lady on the right pointed out that we are all descendant from Neanderthals and that they originated in Africa, it blatantly calls him out as a racist. What's more, this whole indigenous this is stupid, the original population of the UK was systematically destroyed by Viking invasions, wars, Romans and the French. There are very few, if any, true "English" people left, so the BNP doesn't have a leg to stand on in respects to representing the indigenous people. They won't make any more inroads i don't think. People were quite shocked when they got in, so next election i don't think they will continue with the support they got. I think more people will turn up to vote just to keep the BNP out, as alot of people just did not vote in the last by-elections because of the scandal of MP's expenses.[/QUOTE] I like you. You my fwend :3: What you said about the 'indigenous' people thing.. That's what I was thinking the whole time! I mean technically I'm a second generation immigrant (Norwegian), yet I'm just as british as the next person in his eyes I'm sure.

I'm of German descent aswell as English, so i'm no indigenous person! Come here you crazy foreigner lets hug! /hug MAKE LOVE NOT WAR

/hug FUCK YEAH PEACE AND ALL THAT SHIT

Democracy. Let him speak, then take every single word and destroy it. Which is what is happening pretty much. I'm loving the BNP bullet dodging that's going on here. Misquotation is rife seemingly.