• Fanartist viciously harassed by SJWs almost commits suicide, backdraft ensues
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[QUOTE=Laferio;49003003]What's cultural appropriation? Can somebody give me a better explanation of what it means?[/QUOTE] When white people dress up in the traditional clothes of other cultures or eat their food or basically do anything that a white person didnt invent
[QUOTE=proboardslol;49003017]Who gives a shit? Unless you're dressing up as a racist caricature, it's harmless.[/QUOTE] it's [I]Problematic [/I]:cool:
[QUOTE=Dantz Bolrew;49002947]I just can't believe the radtumblr's are using that picture as "evidence" that a producer on the show is a pedophile.[/QUOTE] When someone you previously admired betrays your ideology, the best way to keep your faith is to go back and retroactively paint them as monstrous and contemptible.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;49003024]When white people dress up in the traditional clothes of other cultures or eat their food or basically do anything that a white person didnt invent[/QUOTE] that's basically what tumblr boils it down to but i do think there's a genuine issue to be raised with regards to the treatment of other cultures by foreigners. obviously the most prevalent one tends to be white people and kimonos. to me i feel that it's just a case of respecting the culture and not treating it like a costume to be worn, if that makes sense.
Haha wait wait, hold up. You're telling me this "cultural appropriation" thing is an [I]actual[/I] thing that people believe? What kind of mental gymnastics is required to think that this [I]doesn't[/I] enforce segregation? Like this shit's so backwards.
[QUOTE=Laferio;49003003]What's cultural appropriation? Can somebody give me a better explanation of what it means?[/QUOTE] Literally just white people enjoying aspects of "non-white" cultures. White people can't wear Kimonos, etc.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;49003017]Who gives a shit? Unless you're dressing up as a racist caricature, it's harmless.[/QUOTE] If I was from a culture where there was a headdress you were given after experiencing (and spending your whole life remembering) the horrors of war, I'd be pretty pissed if I saw some random who didn't understand the significance of it prancing around wearing an imitation one. I was from a culture where little shiny war medals were earned in the same way and I saw somebody who had never been near a battlefield wearing a full chest of them I'd be pretty pissed off too. The harm can come from it being incredibly disrespectful. The harm can also come from the fact that, similar to racism, it promotes unrealistic, non-genuine and often silly/mocking/dehumanising stereotypes of that culture. These things aren't awful and destructive as one-off occurrences, but like littering these instances build up and ultimately result in the belittlement of and (often unconscious but still prevalent) discrimination against those cultures. [editline]29th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Laferio;49003067]Haha wait wait, hold up. You're telling me this "cultural appropriation" thing is an [I]actual[/I] thing that people believe? What kind of mental gymnastics is required to think that this [I]doesn't[/I] enforce segregation? Like this shit's so backwards.[/QUOTE] See my post above. It's not about stopping whities from eating sushi (even if a minority of extremists like to claim that it does)
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49002911][B]Tumblr has probably pushed more people to suicide than 4Chan.[/B] Hell, the [I]progressive[/I] SomethingAwful probably dwarfs both of them in that regard.[/QUOTE] It's sad that 4chan of all places did a damn good job of explaining this [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wlMxqnc.jpg[/IMG]
cultural appropriation is particularly prevalent with the native american culture(s), to the extent that most people seem to treat them as something that happened in the past rather than still actively suffering under the treatment of the government.
[QUOTE=Mmrnmhrm;49002848]Did tumblr just one-up 4chan in being awful human beings?[/QUOTE] Aren't people on 4chan being terrible 'ironically'?
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49003124]It's sad that 4chan of all places did a damn good job of explaining this [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wlMxqnc.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Yeah this is one guy's experience of it. People have had the same experiences with the Anglican Church, or Veganism, or the Pokemon fandom. Some 'SJWs' may push these behaviours, but like with any extremism it's a loud minority. Don't let it turn you away from important (and inevitable) social movements like moderate feminism
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;49003150]Aren't people on 4chan being terrible 'ironically'?[/QUOTE] Yeah until the dox someone and attempt to ruin their lives. Most people on 4chan (with the exception of /b/) are thankfully against doxxing
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;49003150]Aren't people on 4chan being terrible 'ironically'?[/QUOTE] convincing somebody to kill themselves ironically is still telling somebody to kill themselves I don't know if 4Chan has done that, but I imagine some members of the community have
I personally knew a shithead who went way off the deep end and supported the hate towards this artist back in 2014. It was because some of the characters were drawn white and that made SJWs go fucking rabid and harass her at work too.
[QUOTE=Laferio;49003067]Haha wait wait, hold up. You're telling me this "cultural appropriation" thing is an [I]actual[/I] thing that people believe? What kind of mental gymnastics is required to think that this [I]doesn't[/I] enforce segregation? Like this shit's so backwards.[/QUOTE] The only legitimate case I can imagine goes straight to Godwin here, and that's how the Nazis took the swastika from Hinduism and used their symbol of peace as something that came to symbolize hatred and intolerance. [I]That[/I] is legitimately taking something from a different culture and making it their own thing that it was never intended to be. Appreciating Japanese folklore or eating Mexican food is not cultural appropriation. There's no way to defend that line of thought.
Cultural appropriation: there are some times when it's legitimate. For instance, using Native American spiritual dress as "ooh, this looks exotic." Other times though, it's "you can't have dreadlocks" or "you can't wear a kimono". Basically, it's legitimate if the people assimilating the cultural actions are doing it in a way that cheapens it, doesn't take it seriously, doesn't show understanding of what it is, turns it into a novelty, or turns it into a joke. Ironically, 97% of the time when someone says something "triggers" them on Tumblr, it's appropriation of PTSD sufferers.
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;49003150]Aren't people on 4chan being terrible 'ironically'?[/QUOTE] People on 4chan aren't always terrible, especially when you get to boards like /tg/. The worst you'll run into on a "blue" board is the occasional racial slur or vicious insult, which shouldn't really get under your skin since everyone's anonymous and can't single you out.
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;49003150]Aren't people on 4chan being terrible 'ironically'?[/QUOTE]Any place doing something in irony will eventually be filled with people doing it genuinely while believing that they are in good company. The 'chans do better handle the fallout of truly vile users due to the environment and format, though. Since everyone is expected to go as hog wild as they want and you can't be pinpointed by the people who would usually make it their mission to isolate and ruin you, it quickly becomes apparent that any shit thrown your way will slide right off as long as you don't hang onto it yourself.
Honestly the whole, "this community has told *X* to off themselves" thing is pretty irrelevant considering every community is going to have, more or less, those kind of people. Whether it's 4chan, or tumblr. Trying to find out whether X community's members have told X to drink the bleach is pretty silly. Usually it should be, "that asshole said this:" because if we don't do that- we start generalizing entire communities, and groups of people. Y'know, the thing that shouldn't be done.
[QUOTE=Laferio;49003240]Honestly the whole, "this community has told *X* to off themselves" thing is pretty irrelevant considering every community is going to have, more or less, those kind of people. Whether it's 4chan, or tumblr. Trying to find out whether X community's members have told X to drink the bleach is pretty silly. [B]Usually it should be, "that asshole said this:" because if we don't do that- we start generalizing entire communities, and groups of people. Y'know, the thing that shouldn't be done.[/B][/QUOTE] I don't know dude, I've heard too many stories about Homestuck fans to think the fandom isn't toxic.
[QUOTE=Last or First;49003226]Cultural appropriation: there are some times when it's legitimate. For instance, using Native American spiritual dress as "ooh, this looks exotic." Other times though, it's "you can't have dreadlocks" or "you can't wear a kimono". Basically, it's legitimate if the people assimilating the cultural actions are doing it in a way that cheapens it, doesn't take it seriously, doesn't show understanding of what it is, turns it into a novelty, or turns it into a joke. Ironically, 97% of the time when someone says something "triggers" them on Tumblr, it's appropriation of PTSD sufferers.[/QUOTE] I agree. I'm not sure about the comment on triggering though - you can not have been diagnosed with PTSD and yet still hear or read something that shoves your brain backwards into a traumatic time in your life. I've been diagnosed with a couple of anxiety issues and I know from my own experience that reading or hearing or watching certain things can rip the scab off an old anxiety and bring it back to the foreground. Essentially 'triggering' it again.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49002836]I hate how these [I]social justice minded individuals[/I] always try to speak for minorities.[/QUOTE] They're always white motherfuckers themselves anyway
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49002836] I hate how these [I]social justice minded individuals[/I] always try to speak for minorities. [/QUOTE] Why? People are far more likely to take white people seriously in pretty much all professions. Why would one not use that as a soapbox to help fix issues of discrimination?
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;49003280]I honestly wish these actually good artists would just [I]step the fuck back[/I] from these horrible fanbases and just do their own thing, specially if the people who're supposed to like your art are so horribly anal about everything you do. Jesus christ, is it jealousy or what that drives people to act like this because I refuse to believe these people exist[/QUOTE] With all due respect people shouldn't be stepping outside of the things they like cus of a bunch of cunts. Just ain't right. I've got a few friends who're into different things, some have an awful fanbase, others don't. I might think that a few of my friends have absolute garbo-taste in the things they like but it's not my position to tell them to stop liking whatever they're liking.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;49003283]Why? People are far more likely to take white people seriously in pretty much all professions. Why would one not use that as a soapbox to help fix issues of discrimination?[/QUOTE] It kind of feels like another take on the White Man's Burden.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49003294]It kind of feels like another take on the White Man's Burden.[/QUOTE] I mean nobody is obligated to fight the fight against racism and discrimination But it's nice to do your bit to not contribute to the issue And people shouldn't be ostracized purely for dedicating their time to speaking out and trying to make a difference
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49003262]I don't know dude, I've heard too many stories about Homestuck fans to think the fandom isn't toxic.[/QUOTE] Take it from a former Homestuck fan, the fandom is awful. The fuckin' bucket video, man.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;49003283]Why? People are far more likely to take white people seriously in pretty much all professions. Why would one not use that as a soapbox to help fix issues of discrimination?[/QUOTE] why would I listen to someone complaining about cultural appropriation who clearly isn't a part of the culture that's supposedly being "appropriated" from? like you're just throwing this assumption out there that people only listen to white people and I really don't think you can actually back it up [editline]28th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Maloof?;49003305]I mean nobody is obligated to fight the fight against racism and discrimination But it's nice to do your bit to not contribute to the issue And people shouldn't be ostracized purely for dedicating their time to speaking out and trying to make a difference[/QUOTE] idk man it kind of seems like you're inflating your own value with this whole "white men are the ones with the power to change stuff" thing
Everyone's flipping out. I know how to make it worse.
the group of people who did this ought to be ashamed of themselves. nothing more than a group of egotistical bullies
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