• Fanartist viciously harassed by SJWs almost commits suicide, backdraft ensues
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[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;49003218]The only legitimate case I can imagine goes straight to Godwin here, and that's how the Nazis took the swastika from Hinduism and used their symbol of peace as something that came to symbolize hatred and intolerance. [I]That[/I] is legitimately taking something from a different culture and making it their own thing that it was never intended to be. Appreciating Japanese folklore or eating Mexican food is not cultural appropriation. There's no way to defend that line of thought.[/QUOTE] Th3 swastika is really old and part of many cultures, including cells Romans and norse.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49003329]why would I listen to someone complaining about cultural appropriation who clearly isn't a part of the culture that's supposedly being "appropriated" from? like you're just throwing this assumption out there that people only listen to white people and I really don't think you can actually back it up[/QUOTE] I said 'far more likely to take white people seriously'. You don't have to look around much to see how many white people are in positions of power in the west relative to members of other cultures. You also don't have to be a part of a specific culture to understand the overarching issues of cultural appropriation (nor racism, nor discrimination, nor sexism). You don't automatically get the right to say 'nope that's offensive to this culture' unless you already have direct experience with the subject matter - you're going to be deferring to members of the specific culture to tell you what lines can and can not be crossed.
I kinda want Tumblr to have everything tumblr.com related to redirect to a tumblr page saying "We're shutting down, sorry :(" for like a month and then suddenly be like "lol jk we aren't" just to see how much these SJW fucktards shit themselves over it's closing Seriously, they're so fucking into this website, it's a great website for artists and fans of shows to meet but it's bogged down by annoying fuckers who think they're a messiah going to save the fucking world
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49003329] idk man it kind of seems like you're inflating your own value with this whole "white men are the ones with the power to change stuff" thing[/QUOTE] I think you're inferring from my statement more than what I put into it
[QUOTE=Maloof?;49003366]I said 'far more likely to take white people seriously'. You don't have to look around much to see how many white people are in positions of power in the west relative to members of other cultures. You also don't have to be a part of a specific culture to understand the overarching issues of cultural appropriation (nor racism, nor discrimination, nor sexism). You don't automatically get the right to say 'nope that's offensive to this culture' unless you already have direct experience with the subject matter - you're going to be deferring to members of the specific culture to tell you what lines can and can not be crossed.[/QUOTE] So what, you're just going to rely on your japanese culture expert to tell you when people can and can't wear kimonos? What if they're full of shit? How would you ever know if you don't actually know anything about the culture yourself? You go directly from "white people are in positions of authority" to "white people are more likely to be taken seriously". Have you ever thought that maybe people won't take something seriously that sounds stupid no matter who's saying it?
Cultural appropriation is a joke. Cultures spread and are integrated. That's just what happens.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49003406]So what, you're just going to rely on your japanese culture expert to tell you when people can and can't wear kimonos? What if they're full of shit? How would you ever know if you don't actually know anything about the culture yourself?[/QUOTE] Well yeah, if you have somebody from Japan who specialises in the historical contexts of Japanese culture I'd say you're pretty safe. I don't get why that's an issue that needs to be brought up. What if my nutritionist or doctor or accountant is full of shit? Same diff. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49003406]You go directly from "white people are in positions of authority" to "white people are more likely to be taken seriously". Have you ever thought that maybe people won't take something seriously that sounds stupid no matter who's saying it?[/QUOTE] Well yeah, some facets of the social change movements do say ridiculous things, that's kind of inherent to ever movement ever. My point was that if you're in a position where you have a bit more social power than other people sometimes it's neat to use that to try to make a difference.
It's driving me nuts how they're throwing around "drawing x character white/skinny is minority erasure1!!!" When at the same time they draw skinny characters fat and white characters black/Asian/etc and it's praised or ignored at the least. When you bring this up to them, they give you the "oppreshun!!!" excuse. Ignorant people are too ignorant to acknowledge their ignorance.
[QUOTE=Laferio;49003240]Honestly the whole, "this community has told *X* to off themselves" thing is pretty irrelevant considering every community is going to have, more or less, those kind of people. Whether it's 4chan, or tumblr. Trying to find out whether X community's members have told X to drink the bleach is pretty silly. Usually it should be, "that asshole said this:" because if we don't do that- we start generalizing entire communities, and groups of people. Y'know, the thing that shouldn't be done.[/QUOTE] The only reason Facepunch doesn't have them is because we have mods actively enforcing the stopping of that shit. Although sometimes I question it since a mod's word is god around here, I'm glad we have them.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;49002620]The SU fandom is where creativity and sanity goes to die. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/u91wpuL.png[/IMG] At this point it's probably not far fetched to say that they're managed to surpass bronies in terms of being awful.[/QUOTE] Trolls and assholes in a fandom do not represent a fandom as a whole.
It's despicable for someone to bully and drive people to suicide for something so insignificant as someone's fan art. I hope whoever did this gets their arse bitten hard.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;49003442]Well yeah, if you have somebody from Japan who specialises in the historical contexts of Japanese culture I'd say you're pretty safe. I don't get why that's an issue that needs to be brought up. What if my nutritionist or doctor or accountant is full of shit? Same diff. Well yeah, some facets of the social change movements do say ridiculous things, that's kind of inherent to ever movement ever. My point was that if you're in a position where you have a bit more social power than other people sometimes it's neat to use that to try to make a difference.[/QUOTE] you shouldn't go around yelling at people that they're killing themselves by eating glutin just because your nutritionist said so either if you don't know what you're talking about you aren't in a position to demand other people change their behavior
[QUOTE=Laferio;49003003]What's cultural appropriation? Can somebody give me a better explanation of what it means?[/QUOTE] You can't like or own or talk about anything outside of your own privilege rank, SJW super experts will decide your privilege rank. On a related note, funny that you never see folks like zeke posting in these threads, just the gamer and penis related ones, despite the outrageously shitty behavior exhibited.
[QUOTE=27X;49003546]You can't like or own or talk about anything outside of your own privilege rank, SJW super experts will decide your privilege rank. On a related not, funny that you never see folks like zeke posting in these threads, just the gamer and penis related ones, despite the outrageously shitty behavior exhibited.[/QUOTE] maybe he's busy doing his taxes or mowing his lawn or something, who cares if he's not attending the latest social justice discussion if anything staying out of this stuff is the smartest course of action that anyone can take
[QUOTE=gary spivey;49003270]They're always white motherfuckers themselves anyway[/QUOTE] The only time I ever hear "Uncle Tom" is from white progressives. Its disgusting.
The thing with cultural appropriation is that its [I]common [/I]use nowadays most likely started off as something well meaning, but by people who didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. Like, the only true case of cultural appropriation I can think of is a group that one of my Anthropology professors called "German Hobbyists". Long story short, they're a group of natural-born Germans who act as if they are parts of various Native American groups, hold sacred ceremonies etc..., and even claim to be part of those tribes, and descended from them (even though they're 100% German). That is one of the few cases I can actually think of, considering cultures are a fluid thing, and part of what makes a culture is its adaptability and taking and being taken from by other cultures.
You know what's neat? Culture is a social construct, it only exists within the social circumstances that perpetuate it. And those change with time among many other conditions. In the span of just a few decades cultures can abandon and adopt different practices. So how a culture manifests and who it encompasses is by no means concrete. What was an aspect of a culture may no longer be one ten years from now. Ten years from now something new may be culturally relevant. So this negative notion of cultural appropriation requires cultural stagnation, and a level of certainty that does not exist that goes to depths of being outright stereotyping. It also establishes a certain level of ethnic superiority, that certain people are special and exclusively allowed to engage in certain actions.
[QUOTE=ShimTaco;49003368]I kinda want Tumblr to have everything tumblr.com related to redirect to a tumblr page saying "We're shutting down, sorry :(" for like a month and then suddenly be like "lol jk we aren't" just to see how much these SJW fucktards shit themselves over it's closing Seriously, they're so fucking into this website, it's a great website for artists and fans of shows to meet but it's bogged down by annoying fuckers who think they're a messiah going to save the fucking world[/QUOTE] It would legitimately fuck with people who are apparently fragile enough that they depend on the site's existence as part of their lives. There was a minor shitstorm with an artist last week because they mocked somebody who was "triggered by the color blue" or something because it "messed with the appearance of the site layout". [QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;49003481]Trolls and assholes in a fandom do not represent a fandom as a whole.[/QUOTE] I strongly doubt the number of trolls is anywhere equal to the number of shitheads in this case, but yes, it's unfortunate that people take the awful members of a fandom as the face of the entire group. [QUOTE=Rangergxi;49003617]The only time I ever hear "Uncle Tom" is from white progressives. Its disgusting.[/QUOTE] I've seen it used by black people addressing other black people who don't act "black enough" or don't agree with the party line regarding oppression and all that. I've also heard another term used but idk if I'll get in trouble for saying it here.
How much do you want to bet that many of these "social justice warriors" are just bandwagoning kids who don't actually know the magnitude of what they're doing? The SJW radicalism has really gotten out of hand. It's made me sick to my stomach.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;49003863]I've seen it used by black people addressing other black people who don't act "black enough" or don't agree with the party line regarding oppression and all that. I've also heard another term used but idk if I'll get in trouble for saying it here.[/QUOTE] "House niggers". If you're saying it as a quote or part of some specific point, and not actually using it yourself as a derogatory, you're fine.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;49003863]It would legitimately fuck with people who are apparently fragile enough that they depend on the site's existence as part of their lives. There was a minor shitstorm with an artist last week because they mocked somebody who was "triggered by the color blue" or something because it "messed with the appearance of the site layout".[/QUOTE] some people take fandoms and shit to a whole other level on tumblr. I caused someone to have a full emotional breakdown a while ago by telling people who watch game of thrones to unfollow me as a joke. tumblr is all they have and all they care about so when one thing goes wrong their world falls apart [QUOTE=godzirra;49003898]How much do you want to bet that many of these "social justice warriors" are just bandwagoning kids who don't actually know the magnitude of what they're doing? The SJW radicalism has really gotten out of hand. It's made me sick to my stomach.[/QUOTE] I imagine that their lives are pretty boring so creating drama about cartoons gives them something to look forward to
honestly, this is the real reason behind all of this: [img]https://i.imgur.com/jFNdSue.png[/img] some angry teenagers on tumblr saw an artist that was popular despite not meeting their standards, so they built up a web of accusations to try and drive her off the site by any means necessary
What's up with adults getting really serious about children's cartoons?
[QUOTE=TheHydra;49003977]honestly, this is the real reason behind all of this: [img]https://i.imgur.com/jFNdSue.png[/img] some angry teenagers on tumblr saw an artist that was popular despite not meeting their standards, so they built up a web of accusations to try and drive her off the site by any means necessary[/QUOTE] The people flipping a shit are like 20 and 30 year olds.
its a threads like these that make me glad i have real problems to worry about
[QUOTE=srobins;49004002]What's up with adults getting really serious about children's cartoons?[/QUOTE] Most of the tumblr users partaking in this event aren't adults at all but kids who throw around words like transmisogyny like candy at Halloween.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49004025]The people flipping a shit are like 20 and 30 year olds.[/QUOTE] most of them i saw were 16-20 range and every single one of them was an otherkin with 5 self-diagnosed mental disorders
[QUOTE=J!NX;49002413]I wish I was an artist I would draw every single steven universe character as a thin latino/dark/not white person and then post it on every SJW's page with the text "How SU should have been made" [/QUOTE] Tumblr loves that, though.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;49003860]You know what's neat? Culture is a social construct, it only exists within the social circumstances that perpetuate it. And those change with time among many other conditions. In the span of just a few decades cultures can abandon and adopt different practices. So how a culture manifests and who it encompasses is by no means concrete. What was an aspect of a culture may no longer be one ten years from now. Ten years from now something new may be culturally relevant. So this negative notion of cultural appropriation requires cultural stagnation, and a level of certainty that does not exist that goes to depths of being outright stereotyping. It also establishes a certain level of ethnic superiority, that certain people are special and exclusively allowed to engage in certain actions.[/QUOTE] To build off of this, as I stated earlier I think a lot of the common usage of stuff like decolonizing, cultural appropriation, and other similar terms started off well meaning enough, but by people who saw them used in their anthropology or global studies classes and didn't, or still don't, have a full understanding of the scope of what they're saying and the situation about cultures. Historically speaking, people never really had the same amount of movement across the globe seen today. Many cultures that shared borders with each other tended to have some similarities (think places like Eastern Europe, or Asian countries) thanks to osmosis of just being in contact with each other. Never before has there really ever been globalization, with so many cultures suddenly coming in contact and people just being people. So now you have countries which don't have borders taking things from other ones, whether explicitly or just by virtue of being in contact with them. And some see that as a bad thing. It isn't that group of Germans I mentioned earlier, it's people wearing a piece of cloth because it looks neat. It's even more absurd as a concept in a country that has been primarily seen as a melting pot throughout its history, where cultures blend and create an even bigger one.
[QUOTE=Dantz Bolrew;49002947]I just can't believe the radtumblr's are using that picture as "evidence" that a producer on the show is a pedophile.[/QUOTE] One thing I've noticed that really sets SJWs apart is how ridiculously over the top they are with loaded terminology. Take this here for example. There is no loli/shota to them, it's actually child pornography. But wait, they're not done being batshit by a longshot because they'll smear anything with a "moe" aesthetic that's not wearing a burqa equivalent as being loli and therefore CP. It's just an incredibly dishonest tactic they use to broadly smear and slander things they don't like. You can see this in literally any issue they make themselves an authority on, though, too. It's why you get ridiculous shit like the ever expanding definition of rape, where forcefully penetrating someone and looking at them are both rape. Or the ever expanding definition of racism, where getting a character's skin tone off by the slightest bit makes you Hitler. Again, these are dishonest bully tactics they're using to broadly smear and denigrate things they simply don't like. If they don't like it, their own sense of morality has to condemn it. There's no such thing as "live and let live" to these people.
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