TaHarrush - Arabic rape game phenomenon arrived in Germany according to police - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BLOB Fish Dude;49511536]Just because it's real doesn't mean it occurred frequently, do you just take up everything that the media says and actually believe it will affect you?[/QUOTE] Speaking of frequently, have sexual assaults in Germany or Sweden gone up since they've been accepting migrants?

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49511631]Speaking of frequently, have sexual assaults in Germany or Sweden gone up since they've been accepting migrants?[/QUOTE] In Sweden they stopped doing studies into the ethnicity of people involved in criminal offenses in the early 2000s. Guess why. edit: This is the closest thing I can find, though. [url]http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape[/url]

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49511711]In Sweden they stopped doing studies into the ethnicity of people involved in criminal offenses in the early 2000s. Guess why. edit: This is the closest thing I can find, though. [url]http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape[/url][/QUOTE] Because if you close your eyes, the problem goes away

Sure is alot of leftist corruption in European countries right now, willing to hurt your own natives all in the name of multiculturalism and diversity. Fucking disgusting.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;49511293]I personally think Islam is incompatible with western civilization.[/QUOTE] The Islamic communities that have successfully integrated in Europe and the US would disagree with that.

This is what happens when you welcome intolerance with tolerance/PC.

watch the video in the link if you wanna be mad for the rest of the night [QUOTE=Keyblockor1;49510437]The Police are failing miserably in Germany; A lot of the time it doesn't even matter whether they grab the Refugees/Migrants who're doing this or not as what ends up happening is that they still release them free after holding them, barring extraordinary circumstances. What's going to happen? Well it's easy, and it's not going to be a pretty sight as all one needs to do is legitimately look at the start of the Far-Right and how they're starting to militarize, as this will soon end up with lynch mobs aimed at anyone who has a darker skin color which will end up culminating in huge clashes with innocents caught in-between. But who could blame people falling into the Far-Right when the Police have been given orders, in multiple states, to start covering up crimes committed by refugees and not dispensing deportations & justice to those who fall under the label? They've clearly failed in the process, not because of themselves, as most are increasingly voting right-wing and further gravitating right, but because of politic standards and agenda set by the government? Look at Cologne where the Police Chief ended up resigning because he spoke out (This is an assumption, not fact.) because of him pointing out the large amount of perpetrators seem to be of North African and Arabic heritage. It's gotten to such a point that there's a huge correlation between crime spiking near refugee centers or in cities and towns where refugees are held. Where even if newspapers limit and censor what appearance and heritage a criminal has most people would give the assumption that they're a refugee or migrant, and sadly this is mostly correct. What's coming in the next decade, if not sooner, is something disgusting. It's going to be an unhealthy cooperation between angry police officers and the far-right, where they'll turn a blind eye to lynch mobs because they're barred from actually intervening and policing such people. I fear for Germany; I really do wish to head there to see the beauty of it, to study there and learn another language and experience the culture as a Uni student, but with the current setting I feel apprehensive, not only for myself, but for the people who're pushed to the far right, the refugees (legitimate ones who cause no problems) as well.[/QUOTE] couldn't have said it any better

[QUOTE=proboardslol;49511293]I personally think Islam is incompatible with western civilization.[/QUOTE] people from the middle east have been integrating to the western world for a long time just fine before all this refugee crisis. You can call this the result of getting a ridiculous number of refugees in a short time span perhaps, but what you said specifically doesnt make any sense. and before someone quotes me and then shows some single line of text from the entire quran to somehow prove that anyone islamic is entirely backwards, let me remind you that I can play the same game with the bible or any other religious text. anyone can cherrypick. it was not that many years ago that Christianity was used as an excuse to leave burning crosses on peoples front lawns because those victims had some extra melanin on their skin, yet I or no one is going to blame Christianity or some religion for that. it was the result of social circumstance, something that changed through education and protest, only possible since the governments here are relatively stable. Meanwhile in certain countries middle east, when people tried to protest unfair laws, corruption, or censorship, they are hit with military retaliation and harsh punishments for speaking out. Of course social progress is slower there. Those countries use islam as an excuse for how it controls its people. and of course terrorist groups and their propaganda make things even worse. Now, by no means am I defending the actions of what was done here. criminals are criminals. it doesn't matter their religion, social class, refugee status, or whatever, crimes deserve punishment. but going blaming a religion, a massive broad idea with many interpretations, is lazy and solves nothing.

[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;49511899]The Islamic communities that have successfully integrated in Europe and the US would disagree with that.[/QUOTE] Oh, I think Muslims are perfectly compatible. I think Islam is incompatible. I think Christianity is also incompatible to western ideals of equality, etc., but thank god (heh) most "christians" don't even go to church. They just say "uh yeah... jesus and stuff". Those who are really religious in America are the problem with America. But Islam itself is an issue. [editline]12th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=da space core;49512056]people from the middle east have been integrating to the western world for a long time just fine before all this refugee crisis. You can call this the result of getting a ridiculous number of refugees in a short time span perhaps, but what you said specifically doesnt make any sense. and before someone quotes me and then shows some single line of text from the entire quran to somehow prove that anyone islamic is entirely backwards, let me remind you that I can play the same game with the bible or any other religious text. anyone can cherrypick. it was not that many years ago that Christianity was used as an excuse to leave burning crosses on peoples front lawns because those victims had some extra melanin on their skin, yet I or no one is going to blame Christianity or some religion for that. it was the result of social circumstance, something that changed through education and protest, only possible since the governments here are relatively stable. Meanwhile in certain countries middle east, when people tried to protest unfair laws, corruption, or censorship, they are hit with military retaliation and harsh punishments for speaking out. Of course social progress is slower there. Those countries use islam as an excuse for how it controls its people. and of course terrorist groups and their propaganda make things even worse. Now, by no means am I defending the actions of what was done here. criminals are criminals. it doesn't matter their religion, social class, refugee status, or whatever, crimes deserve punishment. but going blaming a religion, a massive broad idea with many interpretations, is lazy and solves nothing.[/QUOTE] I think religion in general is incompatible with western civilization, but I think that about Islam especially.

Christianity's issues in the modern world is mostly the harmful notion of denying global warming and being against choice. Islam on the other hand is a major threat to world peace and free speech, burning the Koran resulted in hundreds of people getting killed. Burning the bible, I doubt the pope would even care.

[QUOTE=da space core;49512056] and before someone quotes me and then shows some single line of text from the entire quran to somehow prove that anyone islamic is entirely backwards, [B]let me remind you that I can play the same game with the bible or any other religious text.[/B] anyone can cherrypick.[/QUOTE] That doesn't mean anything though. Western culture is secular and people (for the most part) base their morality off of what society values. Most Christians, practicallly all of them don't stone homosexuals or refrain from eating shellfish or ham. The Islamic world is entirely different. They take what their holy book says seriously. Homosexual? You're getting stoned by government authorities. Be open about leaving Islam? You're getting killed by an angry mob. [url]http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/[/url] [editline]11th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=da space core;49512056]Those countries use islam as an excuse for how it controls its people. and of course terrorist groups and their propaganda make things even worse. [/QUOTE] Even as democracies these countries would be extremely backwards. If anything, its secular dictators such as those in Egypt and visionaries that could ride war hero status (Attaturk) that allowed for women to have basic rights.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49512296] The Islamic world is entirely different. They take what their holy book says seriously. Homosexual? You're getting stoned by government authorities. [/QUOTE] Got a source for that statement buddy? The only government in the world to have practiced legal stoning is Iran, and I don't think the people of Iran had a choice in their government thanks to the oh so amazing and superior Western powers. [QUOTE][URL]http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/[/URL][/QUOTE] Ah yes, the Pew review, the poll where vast majorities of the Muslim community don't believe in the basic tenets of Islam. Really trustworthy poll there. [QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;49512231]Christianity's issues in the modern world is mostly the harmful notion of denying global warming and being against choice. Islam on the other hand is a major threat to world peace and free speech, burning the Koran resulted in hundreds of people getting killed. Burning the bible, I doubt the pope would even care.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ui5FMDR.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Fayez;49512374]Ah yes, the Pew review, the poll where vast majorities of the Muslim community don't believe in the basic tenets of Islam. Really trustworthy poll there.[/QUOTE] 37000 face to face interviews, so yes, yes it is trustworthy. Much more than anything you have posted to prove otherwise

What a crock of bullshit. The place were this happened has been problematic for YEARS now. Long before the refugees arrived. Several interviews with shopowners arund that area showed that.

[QUOTE=Fayez;49512374]Got a source for that statement buddy?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Firewarrior;49512439]37000 face to face interviews, so yes, yes it is trustworthy. Much more than anything you have posted to prove otherwise[/QUOTE] That poll showing the general views of Muslims and the fact that Muslim countries have laws that condemn Homosexuality with harsh penalties (including death), treat women as second class citizens and other crazy nonsense kinda makes it obvious that they're regressive. Not just dictatorships. Pakistan and Indonesia are disgustingly backwards, openly persecuting minorities such as Christians, Hindus and Ahmadiyah/Sufi Muslims.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49512296]That doesn't mean anything though. Western culture is secular and people (for the most part) base their morality off of what society values. Most Christians, practicallly all of them don't stone homosexuals or refrain from eating shellfish or ham. The Islamic world is entirely different. They take what their holy book says seriously. Homosexual? You're getting stoned by government authorities. Be open about leaving Islam? You're getting killed by an angry mob. [url]http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/[/url] [editline]11th January 2016[/editline] Even as democracies these countries would be extremely backwards. If anything, its secular dictators such as those in Egypt and visionaries that could ride war hero status (Attaturk) that allowed for women to have basic rights.[/QUOTE] Could you, like, stop extrapolating from single news instances to billions of people? Have you ever been to a muslimic country? Your post sounds so ridiculous to anyone who's ever been to one. This is why people call you xenophobic btw. You complained about being called racist in the other thread.

[QUOTE=Killuah;49512543]Could you, like, stop extrapolating from single news instances to billions of people? Have you ever been to a muslimic country? Your post sounds so ridiculous to anyone who's ever been to one. This is why people call you xenophobic btw. You complained about being called racist in the other thread.[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists[/url] I'd love to explore the Levant and even visit Mecca but its honestly quite dangerous for me, and illegal to some extent. [QUOTE=Killuah;49512543] This is why people call you xenophobic btw. You complained about being called racist in the other thread.[/QUOTE] Because I mean every single Muslim? Pretty obvious that I'm just referring to the majority, which are quite regressive.

[QUOTE=Firewarrior;49512439]37000 face to face interviews, so yes, yes it is trustworthy. Much more than anything you have posted to prove otherwise[/QUOTE] haha no it's not. he didn't even mention their statistical methods but the veryoutcome of their work. it's like someone released a poll where the majority of people said that the earth is flat, Fayez points out that it isn't and you reply with "but threy asked 37000 people!" [editline]12th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;49512556][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists[/url] I'd love to explore the Levant and even visit Mecca but its honestly quite dangerous for me, and illegal to some extent. [/quote] Luckily for you most Muslims don't live in the arabic world, there are lot of Muslim countries left for you to explore. [quote] Because I mean every single Muslim? Pretty obvious that I'm just referring to the majority, which are quite regressive.[/QUOTE] well I hope not but it sure sounds a bit broad and generalizing when you said [quote]The Islamic world is entirely different. They take what their holy book says seriously. [/quote] I don't see anything about "the majority" or even " a few of them that we fucked up by our politics anyway"

[QUOTE=Firewarrior;49512439]37000 face to face interviews, so yes, yes it is trustworthy. Much more than anything you have posted to prove otherwise[/QUOTE] [T]https://i.imgur.com/8pCHY7m.png[/T] [T]http://i.imgur.com/8pCHY7m.png[/T] 2% of Afghanis use internet yet over 84% of them say they use social media sites. Okay. 30% of Indonesians said they didn't consider Sunnis to be Muslim despite over 99% of Indonesian Muslims being Sunni. 45% of respondents in Pakistan, 51% in Bangladesh, 55% in Indonesia (but just 6% in Afghanistan, 9% in Egypt, 11% in Iraq, 16% in Jordan, and 3% in Lebanon) said that "reciting poetry or singing in praise of God" is unacceptable under Islam. Which is simply ridiculous. Over 40% of Albanians did not believe in Heaven or Hell. A similar amount of both Albanians and Bosnians did not believe in angels. Which seems to run contrary to the other results regarding religiosity (since most African respondents prayed and had the highest mosque attendance out of anyone). 22% of Bengalis did not believe in predestination or the divine decree (kismat/qadar), a core article of faith in both Sunni and Shi'ite Islam. Nearly a quarter to a third of Arab respondents did not believe in the existence of djinns, although this too is a core article of faith in both Sunni and Shi'ite Islam (the devil is a djinn... one would expect that most of these respondents believed in the existence of the devil which would indicate they were not aware of a basic tenet of Islamic theology lifted straight from the literal verses of the Qur'an). 45% of Indonesians also did not believe in djinn (this reached majorities in Central Asia and Europe, except for Turkey). [B]72% of Albanians did believe in the Shahadah (that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad (saw) is His Messenger). [/B] This is the equivalent of a Christian saying that Jesus wasn't the son of God. Which is strange considering 95% of Albanians said they were raised as Muslim. If you looked beyond the parts of the poll that supported your world views you would see how flawed it is.

[QUOTE=Killuah;49512576]haha no it's not. he didn't even mention their statistical methods but the veryoutcome of their work. it's like someone released a poll where the majority of people said that the earth is flat, Fayez points out that it isn't and you reply with "but threy asked 37000 people!" [editline]12th January 2016[/editline] Luckil for you most Muslims don't live in the arabic world, there are lot of Muslim countries left for you to explore.[/QUOTE] It's an opinion poll. It's not about proving that the earth is flat, it's about proving how large of a population THINKS the earth is flat.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49512584]It's an opinion poll. It's not about proving that the earth is flat, it's about proving how large of a population THINKS the earth is flat.[/QUOTE] I hope you still get the point even with that one little word missing.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49512556][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists[/URL] I'd love to explore the Levant and even visit Mecca but its honestly quite dangerous for me, and illegal to some extent[/QUOTE] Congratulations on falling into the fear-mongering. [URL="http://imgur.com/gallery/tM4g8"]Here[/URL], have an album of a pasty white atheist hitchhiking his way around the Middle East. Includes a trip to Saudi Arabia and Palestine. And guess what? Nothing happened to him in these backwards barbaric countries. What a lucky guy!

[QUOTE=Fayez;49512581][T]https://i.imgur.com/8pCHY7m.png[/T] [T]http://i.imgur.com/8pCHY7m.png[/T] 2% of Afghanis use internet yet over 84% of them say they use social media sites. Okay. 30% of Indonesians said they didn't consider Sunnis to be Muslim despite over 99% of Indonesian Muslims being Sunni. 45% of respondents in Pakistan, 51% in Bangladesh, 55% in Indonesia (but just 6% in Afghanistan, 9% in Egypt, 11% in Iraq, 16% in Jordan, and 3% in Lebanon) said that "reciting poetry or singing in praise of God" is unacceptable under Islam. Which is simply ridiculous. Over 40% of Albanians did not believe in Heaven or Hell. A similar amount of both Albanians and Bosnians did not believe in angels. Which seems to run contrary to the other results regarding religiosity (since most African respondents prayed and had the highest mosque attendance out of anyone). 22% of Bengalis did not believe in predestination or the divine decree (kismat/qadar), a core article of faith in both Sunni and Shi'ite Islam. Nearly a quarter to a third of Arab respondents did not believe in the existence of djinns, although this too is a core article of faith in both Sunni and Shi'ite Islam (the devil is a djinn... one would expect that most of these respondents believed in the existence of the devil which would indicate they were not aware of a basic tenet of Islamic theology lifted straight from the literal verses of the Qur'an). 45% of Indonesians also did not believe in djinn (this reached majorities in Central Asia and Europe, except for Turkey). [B]72% of Albanians did believe in the Shahadah (that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad (saw) is His Messenger). [/B] This is the equivalent of a Christian saying that Jesus wasn't the son of God. Which is strange considering 95% of Albanians said they were raised as Muslim. If you looked beyond the parts of the poll that supported your world views you would see how flawed it is.[/QUOTE] Very good post. And in case we need some typical SH nitpicking about how you need to attack their methods, not their super obvious bias you can always read [url]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread953064/pg1[/url] They are funded by Sunoco for fucks sake.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;49511293]I personally think Islam is incompatible with western civilization.[/QUOTE] This is where you've got to separate out the ones who honestly believe in it and follow it closely and truthfully, from the ones who are basically the equivalents of once-a-weeker Christians. Islam is an abhorrent religion, but I really don't care anymore if you choose whether or not to call yourself a Muslim in a case of where you don't follow it stringently and support it like a fanatic. If you keep it to yourself and don't bother anyone with your beliefs, then there's no problem as far as I'm concerned. That goes for any religion out there. Don't start trouble, and there won't be trouble. Simple. In general however, I would say that religion has caused more problems here in the West than were ever necessary for us, and we need to phase it out. This is the 21st century, and we're supposed to be the ones who are leading the world. The sooner we do so, the better. [url=http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_341_en.pdf]Atheism/Agnosticism have both thankfully been increasing in Europe[/url] (with France leading the way), but as far as things are concerned here in the United States, we're lagging way behind you guys. And it shows. When you've got people who claim that they want a scientifically-literate and astute society but at the same time are trying to promote the teaching of [url=http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/kentucky_gop_introduces_bill_that_would_promote_creationism_by_delaying_school_start_date]Creationism[/url] of all ridiculous things in schools, you know there's some serious issues with your society that you need to tackle. Whether or not such things come to pass is a cause for concern; fact is, things should be consolidated to a point where this stuff isn't even given serious consideration in the first place. If you want to uplift people, teach them to find comfort in spirituality-- not religion. If you want them to be educated, provide them with a scientific education-- not a religious education. In the past, religion was a useful tool for keeping people organized and under control by establishing power structures that governed over them and doctrines which were supposed to dictate their daily existence (the Quran, for instance, discusses everything from how followers should conduct themselves in warfare to how they should handle financial matters and health matters; basically, what all mainstream religions do by providing a manual for living). But as advanced as we are now and as informed as we should be, there's no real purpose for any of it anymore. It's superfluous because of how backwards most of it is; it just hasn't aged well and kept up with the needs and changes of modern times. Spirituality I'm in favor of though because it gives people the freedom at an individual level to explore their own paths about the philosophical questions we all struggle with ("Why am I here?" and "What is my purpose?" and "What is this all about, if anything?" and so on and so forth) without dogma being imposed upon them, and science meanwhile provides them with what knowledge is available and what methods are available to help them formulate ideas and learn what and how things around us all are exactly. To me anyway, that just seems to be the next step of logical progression. We're the home of the Age of Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution, and the Atomic/Information Age. These kinds of reformative transitions carry on pragmatically and build on our old histories while at the same time are fit for the new times we live in. We should be building secular, spiritually-tolerant, scientifically-inclined societies. And that's just not possible when you have these kinds of backwards beliefs and people who follow them living with/around you, nor is it possible when you have at the same time (as others have mentioned) overly-tolerant people who are too politically correct for their own good and apparently have no inner desire for self-preservation.

Maybe back to topic. [url]http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/47/47075/1.html[/url] TaHarrush as a phenomenon is known from Egypt and first appeared under the Mubarac regime and was used to accuse the Muslim Brotherhood of said violence [url]http://opendocs.ids.ac.uk/opendocs/bitstream/handle/123456789/2950/ER8%20final%20online.pdf?sequence=1&utm_source=idswebsite&utm_medium=download&utm_campaign=opendocs[/url] So the stuff the BKA saw "in arab countries" is actually what they saw in Egypt where it was backed and executed by police forces and used by a regime that by the time it appeared was BACKED by western forces. Nice. This is why you don't trust "Die Welt", they are part of Springer Presse which is the publisher of "Bild", the worst tabloid on Earth.

[QUOTE=Killuah;49512675]Maybe back to topic. [url]http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/47/47075/1.html[/url] TaHarrush as a phenomenon is known from Egypt and first appeared under the Mubarac regime and was used to accuse the Muslim Brotherhood of said violence [url]http://opendocs.ids.ac.uk/opendocs/bitstream/handle/123456789/2950/ER8%20final%20online.pdf?sequence=1&utm_source=idswebsite&utm_medium=download&utm_campaign=opendocs[/url] So the stuff the BKA saw "in arab countries" is actually what they saw in Egypt where it was backed and executed by police forces and used by a regime that by the time it appeared was BACKED by western forces. Nice. This is why you don't trust "Die Welt", they are part of Springer Presse which is the publisher of "Bild", the worst tabloid on Earth.[/QUOTE] What about BBC? They trustworthy? I mean, if they all are reporting about the same thing... [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35280386[/url] as already linked in first post.

[QUOTE=Fayez;49512613]Congratulations on falling into the fear-mongering. [URL="http://imgur.com/gallery/tM4g8"]Here[/URL], have an album of a pasty white atheist hitchhiking his way around the Middle East. Includes a trip to Saudi Arabia and Palestine. And guess what? Nothing happened to him in these backwards barbaric countries. What a lucky guy![/QUOTE] Sorry but just because you can give us one example of someone who came out of these countries unharmed does not mean that does not exist any problems with some of Arab society. Like right here [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists#Saudi_Arabia[/url] [QUOTE]Atheism is prohibited in Saudi Arabia and can come with a death penalty if practiced.[clarification needed] In March 2014, the Saudi interior ministry issued a royal decree branding all atheists as terrorists, which defines terrorism as "calling for atheist thought in any form, or calling into question the fundamentals of the Islamic religion on which this country is based".[131][/QUOTE] How is that not a issue I ask you? Just because some White Atheist guy went to Saudi Arabia and came out unscathed,that means that there's no discriminatory law against anyone with atheistic beliefs? "Oh but one should not announce himself or herself as an atheist anyways" But that doesn't make it any less correct innit? Had this been a law set up by ANY Western Government against Muslims,I bet you THE MAJORITY of Muslims would be extremely outraged at this notion of being singled out for their beliefs. [QUOTE=Fayez;49512374]Got a source for that statement buddy? The only government in the world to have practiced legal stoning is Iran, and I don't think the people of Iran had a choice in their government thanks to the oh so amazing and superior Western powers.[/QUOTE] I don't know where you get this notion that Iran is the only country in the Middle East or the World perhaps that allows stoning when you could go google about stoning in Islam and come up with this map about which countries support stoning [T]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/A_map_showing_countries_where_public_stoning_is_judicial_or_extrajudicial_form_of_punishment.SVG[/T] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Usage_today[/url] [QUOTE]There are 15 countries in which stoning is either practiced or authorized by law, even if it has never been practiced. In Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria (in one-third of the country's states), Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen, stoning is a legal punishment.[/QUOTE] You then might come to me and say "[B]But stoning(Rajm) is nowhere in the Quran so how can you blame Islam for this?[/B] And you might have a good point until you go to the secondary authority of Islam,the Hadiths where [B]Umar himself agrees with the punishment of stoning for adultery[/B] [QUOTE]Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: 'Umar said, "I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, "We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book," and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession." Sufyan added, "I have memorized this narration in this way." 'Umar added, "Surely Allah's Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him."[/QUOTE] That's not all [QUOTE]Abu Huraira reported that a person from amongst the Muslims came to Allah's Messenger while he was in the mosque. He called him saying: Allah's Messenger. I have committed adultery. He (the Holy Prophet) turned away from him, He (again) came round facing him and said to him: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery. He (the Holy Prophet) turned away until he did that four times, and as he testified four times against his own self, Allah's Messenger called him and said: Are you mad? He said: No. He (again) said: Are you married? He said: Yes. Thereupon Allah's Messenger said: Take him and stone him. Ibn Shihab (one of the narrators) said: One who had heard Jabir b. 'Abdullah saying this informed me thus: I was one of those who stoned him. We stoned him at the place of prayer (either that of 'Id or a funeral). When the stones hurt him, he ran away. We caught him in the Harra and stoned him (to death). This hadith has been narrated through another chain of transmitters. [/QUOTE] [B]Muhammad himself ordered his followers to stone that man until he DIED[/B]

The BBC article cites Egypt, not "the arab world".

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;49512798]What about BBC? They trustworthy? I mean, if they all are reporting about the same thing... [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35280386[/url] as already linked in first post.[/QUOTE] That article still doesn't mention that the Taharrush term was used for politically motivated sexual violence by the Mubarac regime. And while we're at things it doesn't say it also fails to mention that approx 40% of the 1.1 million asylum seekers that arrived in 2015(as mentioned) didn't stay.

[QUOTE=Fayez;49512613]Congratulations on falling into the fear-mongering. [URL="http://imgur.com/gallery/tM4g8"]Here[/URL], have an album of a pasty white atheist hitchhiking his way around the Middle East. Includes a trip to Saudi Arabia and Palestine. And guess what? Nothing happened to him in these backwards barbaric countries. What a lucky guy![/QUOTE] it all depends, my sister's boyfriend's friend (friend of the boyfriend) went to Saudi Arabia to work on a conscruction site and one night he was drinking and they caught him and sentenced him to jail for 12 years I believe (I'm sure it was over 10 years) so yeah it may not be that dangerous to go there but one wrong step and you're pretty much fucked