TaHarrush - Arabic rape game phenomenon arrived in Germany according to police - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Buck.;49513403]Simple, punish rapist refugees harshly to set an example. A few life sentences and/or executions will soon teach them to behave.[/QUOTE] the law shouldn't exist to make examples out of people

[QUOTE=kweh;49515371]Are we gonna play "my anecdotal evidence is of more worth than yours" again?[/QUOTE] I thought my post was ridiculous enough for you to see the sarcasm.

[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;49515835]There needs to be multiple perspectives in order for it to be considered valid. I haven't met drug dealers in Texas before, but it doesn't mean that they're nonexistent in that state. [editline]12th January 2016[/editline] Which denomination of Islam do you belong to? Correct beliefs vary by denomination.[/QUOTE] I'm Sunni, but things like Heaven or Hell, kismat, djinns, and especially the Shahadah are core parts of Islam as a whole, not exclusive to either sect.

[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;49511899]The Islamic communities that have successfully integrated in Europe and the US would disagree with that.[/QUOTE] That's cute. What would the existing communities think of the Islamic compatibility? What are your examples of this working scenario? You obviously seen this first hand, right?

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49516281]the law shouldn't exist to make examples out of people[/QUOTE] It shouldn't but it does. Be real. They think that our law enforcement are nothing but pussies and they are right. They are scared to even mention the nationalities of these criminals to media, let alone punish them to the full extent of the law. I don't know what it would take to get deported. There's just too much red tape. They come here, rape, steal and murder because they think they will get away with it when they wouldn't try that shit at home.

I fear for the women of my country. This shit is awful.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49516281]the law shouldn't exist to make examples out of people[/QUOTE] It doesn't but it does exist to protect people. Sexual assault and rape should be punished harshly regardless of the race/sex/religion of the victim and person committing the crime. Harsh punishments should be used to prevent these crimes from happening. The Islamic world is extremely sexist (Its on the woman to not dress in revealing clothes mindset) and so more measures should be taken if to deal with the impending rape crisis as immigration continues.

This is the part where I would usually state the fact that islam is bad and then get banned for racism because for some reason people still think race = religion

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49520659]It doesn't but it does exist to protect people. Sexual assault and rape should be punished harshly regardless of the race/sex/religion of the victim and person committing the crime. Harsh punishments should be used to prevent these crimes from happening. The Islamic world is extremely sexist (Its on the woman to not dress in revealing clothes mindset) and so more measures should be taken if to deal with the impending rape crisis as immigration continues.[/QUOTE] Harsh punishments don't prevent crimes and all of the incidents reported for NYE are already punishable under current laws. Or how about we first look at the much more pressing issue of most cases not even being reported or 90% of all sexualized violence coming from the immediate social vicinity? (Which is of course not saying that issues like NYE should be ignored, just setting them in relation)

[QUOTE=da space core;49515172]I think I wasnt clear enough on my previous post, so I will just use exaggerated examples instead to get my point across. look at black crime rates. If you look behind the scenes, you see how poverty plays a major role, the effects of the relationship between the black community and the police force, the social ideals, so on (same goes for other ethnicities too). Then some people say "teach black people not to steal" look at sexual harassment statistics. you can delve into the details of peer pressures, social pressures and standards, gender roles in todays society. Yet some folks look no further than the fact that there is a higher percentage of males being convicted of sexual assault than females, and they say "teach men not to rape" When you say "Islam is at fault," [I]you are doing the exact same thing[/I]. You ignore all the other factors that play a role in this. I for one, as an atheist, applaud the movement to a more secular society. However, blaming an entire religion for all these problems is lazy. It solves nothing, divides us more, and ironically, prevents people from becoming more secular.[/QUOTE] That's true, but saying "islam is at fault" is basically just a simpler way of saying "some, not insignificant, portion of the refugees have--what most of the western world would consider--backwards beliefs and religion is often used as an excuse for holding these beliefs, and a shield against criticism of them". It's a generalization, in a similar way blaming christianity for the crusades is a generalization, but also somewhat true as religion is used as a tool in both cases. Also, in the growing PC culture, religion--and race--is somewhat at fault, not directly in the behavior of the persons in question, but rather in how they are treated by society and the government.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49511711]In Sweden they stopped doing studies into the ethnicity of people involved in criminal offenses in the early 2000s. Guess why. edit: This is the closest thing I can find, though. [url]http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape[/url][/QUOTE] It's fucking hilarious with that sort of thing in mind considering what Sweden's most wanted looks like. Arabs, Africans, Slavs, a single Swede. [url]http://www.swedensmostwanted.se/[/url]

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49511711]In Sweden they stopped doing studies into the ethnicity of people involved in criminal offenses in the early 2000s. Guess why. edit: This is the closest thing I can find, though. [URL]http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape[/URL][/QUOTE] Oh, another article based on misinterpreting Swedish statistics. Interesting, it has a section called "Strange explanations" listing valid explanations of the inflated statistics. Article does not attempt to refute them. Regarding the ethnicity thing, I don't think Sweden has ever taken ethnicity into account. It has always been nationality, foreign born and so on. And I believe there are stats for those.

[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;49511385]oh thank goodness it's [i]only[/i] sexual harassment... doesnt make it less criminal and gross though[/QUOTE] Nice strawman there, that is very clearly not what he was insinuating and you bloody well know it.

[QUOTE=Nikota;49521147]It's fucking hilarious with that sort of thing in mind considering what Sweden's most wanted looks like. Arabs, Africans, Slavs, a single Swede. [url]http://www.swedensmostwanted.se/[/url][/QUOTE] What kind of site is this and why can you not count correctly?

[QUOTE=Killuah;49521509]What kind of site is this and why can you not count correctly?[/QUOTE] It's a list compiled from [url=http://www.interpol.int/]Interpol[/url] information.

So is it the top searched people within Sweden? Or is it the top searched people with swedish nationality? What is it? [editline]13th January 2016[/editline] Neither using "Swedish Nationality" nor "Wanted by Sweden" yields the list the website presents. [editline]gabbagabba[/editline] Seems like it is a list of "wanted by Sweden" [editline]13th January 2016[/editline] Turns out Sweden uses the organization for international police work to search for international criminals. Who would've thought. [editline]13th January 2016[/editline] This is fun: [url]http://www.interpol.int/notice/search/wanted[/url] Uganda searches for a lot of Chinese and Indian criminals, apparently.

[QUOTE=Buck.;49520547]It shouldn't but it does. Be real. They think that our law enforcement are nothing but pussies and they are right. They are scared to even mention the nationalities of these criminals to media, let alone punish them to the full extent of the law. I don't know what it would take to get deported. There's just too much red tape. They come here, rape, steal and murder because they think they will get away with it when they wouldn't try that shit at home.[/QUOTE] are you seriously calling for harsher punishments for the same crimes if the criminal comes from a specific country? do you not see what kind of precedent that sets?

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49521747]are you seriously calling for harsher punishments for the same crimes if the criminal comes from a specific country? do you not see what kind of precedent that sets?[/QUOTE] I can sort of see why people would vouch for harsher punishments on these heathens,you welcome these people and they do this type of shit to your people despite your hospitality,wouldn't you feel angry?

[QUOTE=Tarver;49521869]I can sort of see why people would vouch for harsher punishments on these heathens,you welcome these people and they do this type of shit to your people despite your hospitality,wouldn't you feel angry?[/QUOTE] Sure it's a disgusting crime but then again I don't think revenge helps at all because that's what calls for harsher punishments are. We already have laws against these crimes. Harsher punishments don't prevent crime. The Clintons thought it did and look what the US ended up after majorly increasing punishments in the 90s, 2.8% of adults are incinerated or in parole.

[QUOTE=Killuah;49522155] The Clintons thought it did and look what the US ended up after majorly increasing punishments in the 90s, 2.8% of adults are [B]incinerated [/B]or in parole.[/QUOTE] Cruel and unusual :what:

ooops incarcerated is the word, isn't it? lol

[QUOTE=Killuah;49522155]Sure it's a disgusting crime but then again I don't think revenge helps at all because that's what calls for harsher punishments are. We already have laws against these crimes. Harsher punishments don't prevent crime. The Clintons thought it did and look what the US ended up after majorly increasing punishments in the 90s, 2.8% of adults are incinerated or in parole.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what point you're making here. Violent crime has been going down almost linearly since the 90s and property crime rates started a decrease in the 90s as well.

My point is that calling for harsher punishment will do fuckall.

[QUOTE=Killuah;49525133]My point is that calling for harsher punishment will do fuckall.[/QUOTE] Its not harsher punishment, is no way out after getting released. If we had methods of allowing people to re-intergrate into society after going through prison without all the stigma, we would not have the re-incarceration rate that we have. Punishments are not the issue, its the aftermath that's the issue coupled with the punishments. [editline]13th January 2016[/editline] But you can go ahead and focus on factor instead of the incredibly complex and nuianced issues of incarceration with your head so firmly twisted in one direction that you've spent an entire thread just asking the same question in different ways as if you're actually right. The Refugee crisis is just as, if not more, complex but everyone in the thread has treated it like its a simple thing that can be broken down into numbers. A multi-faceted and intelligent response is required, not just leaving your asshole open for everything or clenching so tightly anything nearby breaks in half.

[QUOTE=Killuah;49525133]My point is that calling for harsher punishment will do fuckall.[/QUOTE] ... How does pointing to something that seemingly correlated with reduced crime rates show that it doesn't reduce crime rates?

[QUOTE=sgman91;49527880]... How does pointing to something that seemingly correlated with reduced crime rates show that it doesn't reduce crime rates?[/QUOTE] Do we have to do this stupid meta discussion about correlation and causality again? [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Swilly;49525184]Its not harsher punishment, is no way out after getting released. If we had methods of allowing people to re-intergrate into society after going through prison without all the stigma, we would not have the re-incarceration rate that we have. Punishments are not the issue, its the aftermath that's the issue coupled with the punishments. [editline]13th January 2016[/editline] But you can go ahead and focus on factor instead of the incredibly complex and nuianced issues of incarceration with your head so firmly twisted in one direction that you've spent an entire thread just asking the same question in different ways as if you're actually right. The Refugee crisis is just as, if not more, complex but everyone in the thread has treated it like its a simple thing that can be broken down into numbers. A multi-faceted and intelligent response is required, not just leaving your asshole open for everything or clenching so tightly anything nearby breaks in half.[/QUOTE] What is this post even saying. The ones who are saying that the crisis is complex and that kneejerk reactions only can make it worse are usually the pro-asylum speakers. You might've noticed how I and others repeatedly said that the situation needs to be handled case by case and not with a broad "increase punishments" or "throw them all out" approach. Where do I have my head turned? I didn't deny anything happening, I said that laws against sexual violence are already in place and used. You talk about being more open and acknowledge the nuances and different opinions and sides to every story yet in the very same sentence you talk about "not just leaving your asshole open for everything or clenching so tightly anything nearby breaks in half." effectively generalizing, ridiculing and exagerating the position of everyone who doesn't share yours.

[QUOTE=Fayez;49512581][T]https://i.imgur.com/8pCHY7m.png[/T] [T]http://i.imgur.com/8pCHY7m.png[/T] 2% of Afghanis use internet yet over 84% of them say they use social media sites. Okay.[/QUOTE] Haven't been in the thread, so a late reply. That's not what's asked. What's asked is "Do you EVER use online social networking sites like facebook". That's a completely different question and much more likely that 84% of them have ever used FB or something similar, you don't have to have internet at home to have ever used any of those. And again: EVER. They could have used it once and said yes, that would count. Also the internet pentration is at 5.4% now. The rest looks like pure speculation as you don't have (or haven't posted) any data from other sources. What you say is probably true, but if that's not what people think, then it's not what people think. Also, here's the methodology: [url]http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-appc/[/url] Unless another, similar, survey is conducted by another research company, we can't really say if it's correct or false.

[QUOTE=Killuah;49535364]Do we have to do this stupid meta discussion about correlation and causality again?[/QUOTE] Pointing to the difference between correlation and causation does absolutely nothing to answer my question. You said: [QUOTE]Harsher punishments don't prevent crime. The Clintons thought it did and look what the US ended up after majorly increasing punishments in the 90s, 2.8% of adults are incinerated or in parole.[/QUOTE] It seems like you're saying that increased punishments led to more people in prison and parole, therefore they didn't prevent crime. My issue is that your conclusion is a total non-sequitur from your premis. In fact, the act of getting more criminals in prison may very well be one of the factors that causes less crime according to multiple studies.

What's with all the hate? This game is pretty fun.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49521747]are you seriously calling for harsher punishments for the same crimes if the criminal comes from a specific country? do you not see what kind of precedent that sets?[/QUOTE] Governments should give their own citizens more chances. People trying to become citizens should be held to a higher standard.