TaHarrush - Arabic rape game phenomenon arrived in Germany according to police - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49538799]Governments should give their own citizens more chances. People trying to become citizens should be held to a higher standard.[/QUOTE] Sure, and they already are. But is that really what "make an example out of" means in this context?

[QUOTE=proboardslol;49511293]I personally think Islam is incompatible with western civilization.[/QUOTE] No? I know plenty of Muslims in my life. I went to school with them, I was taught by them, I've worked with them, and I've been friends with them. All of them nice, normal people. Anecdotal? Of course. But only one data point needs to exist to refute the claim "Islam is incompatible with Western civilization." I can find examples of Muslims living happily and peacefully in Western civilization, therefore I can prove it to be compatible.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;49511293]I personally think Islam is incompatible with western civilization.[/QUOTE] Days later and i still find it hard to believe that this post was agreed with so much on facepunch. I would expect this type of mentality on a middle schoolers Facebook or 4chan. I think a better statement would be "I believe any religion or ideology brought to an unbalanced extreme is incompatible with modern civilization."

[QUOTE=da space core;49540723]"I believe any religion or ideology brought to an unbalanced extreme is incompatible with modern civilization."[/QUOTE] A peaceful religion taken to the extreme would result in pacifism. [t]http://www.jainpedia.org/fileadmin/jainpedia/images/articles/Sth_Ter_nuns-Arjun.jpg[/t] Jain extremists cover their mouths so that don't even kill insects.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49540741]A peaceful religion taken to the extreme would result in pacifism.[/QUOTE] Not really [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence[/url] Extremism in any regard can result in violence.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49540741]A peaceful religion taken to the extreme would result in pacifism. [t]http://www.jainpedia.org/fileadmin/jainpedia/images/articles/Sth_Ter_nuns-Arjun.jpg[/t] Jain extremists cover their mouths so that don't even kill insects.[/QUOTE] When i talk about extremism, i refer to taking something to such an extreme that it may even ironically go against its original idea. Anything can fall prey to it, from religion to economic system.

[QUOTE=da space core;49540850]When i talk about extremism, i refer to taking something to such an extreme that it may even ironically go against its original idea. Anything can fall prey to it, from religion to economic system.[/QUOTE] The issue with Islam is that the original Muslims were very war like, conquering basically everyone around them. So it's hard to argue that those who want to establish a Muslim caliphate with theocratic law are going against "true" Islam. It also doesn't help that there are lots of different Hadiths that support basically anything.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49540741]A peaceful religion taken to the extreme would result in pacifism. [t]http://www.jainpedia.org/fileadmin/jainpedia/images/articles/Sth_Ter_nuns-Arjun.jpg[/t] Jain extremists cover their mouths so that don't even kill insects.[/QUOTE] You know exactly that this is not what he meant. In what kind of black and white world are you living. [editline]16th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;49541109]The issue with Islam is that the original Muslims were very war like, conquering basically everyone around them. So it's hard to argue that those who want to establish a Muslim caliphate with theocratic law are going against "true" Islam. It also doesn't help that there are lots of different Hadiths that support basically anything.[/QUOTE] The issue with Islam is that the west actively encourages extremism during the cold war. The current extremists we see are a direct result of it. Many of the "problematic" Muslim countries today used to be much more progressive in the 60's and 70's The historical point you're trying to bring up is a fallacy because it works for literally every Religion, Mindset or ethnicity there is. Also you can't bring up "Hadiths that support basically anything" without mentioning the countless Christian sects that support basically anything, some of them actively funding extremism in foreign countries(just like some Muslims do).

[QUOTE=Thlis;49540756]Not really [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence[/url] Extremism in any regard can result in violence.[/QUOTE] These are examples of political extremism, not religious extremism. The fact of the matter is that with your example of Buddhism, the Buddhist religion is peaceful, and if believed in to a literal/extremist extent, it will not produce violence; it [i]will[/i] produce peace. Ahimsa, which means "compassion", is one of its primary virtues. Violence is explicitly condemned, although there are situations where it's viewed as being acceptable. And this is reasonable. Pacifism/nonviolence is a noble thing to believe in, but the fact of the matter is there are times where violence is necessary and must be applied as a tool of preservation. The Wiki article you've cited off here listed for example Buddhists in Thailand fighting and killing Communists and Muslim insurgents. Who here honestly believes this reaction-- fighting against people who are out to persecute and exterminate them-- is unreasonable? That's a matter of self-preservation. Meanwhile, with Burmese nationalists in Myanmar attempting to make the Buddhist religion syncretic with totalitarianism and who are slaughtering and displacing and forcefully converting ethnic and religious minorities to solidify the power of the military regime in power, this is wrong. I don't just mean it's wrong from a moral standpoint, I mean it's completely contradictory to what Buddhism is and is therefore not an example of Buddhist extremism, because these people are not Buddhists. They're political extremists first and foremost who have tried to incorporate their religion into their political views and have tried to use it as a tool to further their political goals. They're not Buddhists; they're violating their religion's fundamental principles. One of the articles cited under there had an excellent point made by an exiled Burmese man about this issue: [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/nirvanaless-asian-buddhisms-growing-fundamentalist-streak/2014/05/01/9af7413c-d161-11e3-a714-be7e7f142085_story.html]“No Buddhist can be nationalistic. There is no country for Buddhists. I mean, no such thing as ‘me,’ ‘my’ community, ‘my’ country, ‘my’ race or even ‘my’ faith.”[/url]

I have a feeling that these are NON-WAR MIGRANT criminals posing as refugees and are purposely doing these so to make the whole world hate Islam and migrants or something.

This is awful.

WAKE ME UP CAN'T WAKE UP

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;49510460]What the fuck? Who the hell makes a game out of rape? This is fucking sick.[/QUOTE] Japan Nobody else in this thread dumbfounded by the fact that most of people in this thread actually believes that Arab encourages rape culture and Islam had anything to do with it?

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;49510330]hooray for immigration without integration.[/QUOTE] This is whole crazy world is just too frustrating... [video=youtube;u4JRqa-KE_A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4JRqa-KE_A[/video]

[QUOTE=hakimhakim;49546007]Japan Nobody else in this thread dumbfounded by the fact that most of people in this thread actually believes that Arab encourages rape culture and Islam had anything to do with it?[/QUOTE] When countries like Saudi Arabia and Yemen have sexist laws,how can you blame anyone for thinking wrong? You think it's entirely Westerner's fault that they have such a poor perception of Islam?

wtf the racism is strong with this thread This has nothing to do with them being arabs and it certainly isn't a game/trend. When you say that it's a game you're implying that otherwise normal guys would partake in it for funsies because the fact that it's a "game" makes it socially acceptable. But no, it's not. These are just assholes being assholes. theres no game to be spoken of and it doesnt have anything to do with their race/religion lol this subforum is turning more and more into a shitfest of racists and ass-backwards "progressives"

[QUOTE=Rainboo;49547104]wtf the racism is strong with this thread This has nothing to do with them being arabs and it certainly isn't a game/trend. When you say that it's a game you're implying that otherwise normal guys would partake in it for funsies because the fact that it's a "game" makes it socially acceptable. But no, it's not. These are just assholes being assholes. theres no game to be spoken of and it doesnt have anything to do with their race/religion lol this subforum is turning more and more into a shitfest of racists and ass-backwards "progressives"[/QUOTE] How does a religion/culture that promotes spousal abuse have nothing to do with this?

[QUOTE=Jon MadN;49549993]How does a religion/culture that promotes spousal abuse have nothing to do with this?[/QUOTE] Religion advocating spousal abuse? Give me one evidence or instance that prophet Muhammad hit on his wife. I undestand if your ingnorance came from your sheltered upbringing. Forget it if all your examples came from some random bloke who happened to live in Arab.

[QUOTE=Jon MadN;49549993]How does a religion/culture that promotes spousal abuse have nothing to do with this?[/QUOTE] As someone with family in the middle east, this seriously just became insulting. I am also in the position to say that its not true. However, the problem from which these misconceptions arise are the governments. Simply put, they are stupidly corrupt. If you got the money, you can probably go murder someone and the government will make up some excuse to let you get away with it. If you don't have money or influence , you can have 4 PhDs and still be stuck running a convinence store because the economy is rigged. I can only speak for life in Iran, although im certain the situation is similar in other middle eastern countries. But honestly, you people who always call these people backwards and judgemental should go look into a mirror.

[QUOTE=hakimhakim;49550929]Religion advocating spousal abuse? Give me one evidence or instance that prophet Muhammad hit on his wife. I undestand if your ingnorance came from your sheltered upbringing. Forget it if all your examples came from some random bloke who happened to live in Arab.[/QUOTE] From the Second Sura of the Quran itself: [quote][i]"Your wives are as tilth for you, so go to your tilth, when or how you will, and send before you for your ownselves."[/i] (223)[/quote] Tilth is cultivated land. It literally says here that they're like fertile soil, so you can and should treat them as such and use them for sex "when or how you will" because of the importance of procreation. Anal sex is prohibited in Islam of course, so that's out. By vaginally, do whatever you want. They've got no say in the matter. Women are also repeatedly referred to as being worth less than men are. Their legal testimony is worth less than that of a man, their inheritance should be worth less, etc. [quote][i]"Allah commands you as regards your children's inheritance; to the male, a portion equal to that of two females . . ."[/i] (4:11) [i]"And divorced women shall wait for three menstrual periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And they have rights similar over them to what is reasonable, but the men have a degree over them."[/i] (for just being men, apparently; 2:228) [i]"And get two witnesses out of your own men. And if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of the women errs, the other can remind her."[/i] (2:282)[/quote] Mohammad's wife Aisha herself even complained to her husband that, [i]"You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses."[/i] Also, [url=http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/062-sbt.php#007.062.058]in the narrative of Sahl bin Saad[/url], who was a direct companion of Mohammad's, the story is recounted of how a woman offered herself in marriage to him; he rejected her because he did not find her to be attractive, and when another man said "if you don't need her, I'll take her", he let the man do so. At first, he asked if the man had anything of material value to offer for her, but finally when it was made clear that the man did not, Muhammad approved anyway on the grounds that the man at least knew the Quran and was a loyal enough follower that he could recite it by heart. [quote][i]"A woman came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I have come to you to present myself to you (for marriage)." Allah's Apostle glanced at her. He looked at her carefully and fixed his glance on her and then lowered his head. When the lady saw that he did not say anything, she sat down. A man from his companions got up and said, "O Allah's Apostle! If you are not in need of her, then marry her to me." The Prophet said, "Have you got anything to offer." The man said, 'No, by Allah, O Allah's Apostle!" The Prophet said (to him), "Go to your family and try to find something." So the man went and returned, saying, "No, by Allah, O Allah's Apostle! I have not found anything." The Prophet said, "Go again and look for something, even if it were an iron ring." He went and returned, saying, "No, by Allah, O Allah's Apostle! I could not find even an iron ring, but this is my Izar (waist sheet).' He had no Rida (upper garment). He added, "I give half of it to her." Allah's Apostle said "What will she do with your Izar? If you wear it, she will have nothing over herself thereof (will be naked); and if she wears it, then you will have nothing over yourself thereof ' So the man sat for a long period and then got up (to leave). When Allah's Apostle saw him leaving, he ordered that he e called back. When he came, the Prophet asked (him), "How much of the Qur'an do you know (by heart)?" The man replied, I know such Sura and such Sura and such Sura," naming the suras. The Prophet said, "Can you recite it by heart?" He said, 'Yes." The Prophet said, "Go I let you marry her for what you know of the Quran (as her Mahr)."[/i][/quote] I try to keep my private details private, with small allusions here and there where they may be relevant, but I'm just going to go ahead and point out as a preemptive measure in case you try and accuse me of being ignorant about this stuff that my father is a practicing Shi'ite. He's a moderate in the sense that he's a smart enough person to understand that this is intolerably backwards bullshit to follow, but he still considers himself to be a Muslim even though he does not follow it loyally at all. Like a lot of Christians out there, who like to call themselves Christian but don't follow their own religion like they're supposed to. Besides that, I go to a mosque for free Arabic lessons twice a week and sometimes stay for prayers and lectures. Mohammad treated women like shit (something his own wife complained of), Islam treats women like they're property at best, and that's that. It's an abhorrent religion if followed the way that it's supposed to be, and Mohammad himself was an asshole. And this is all just talking about women in relation to Islam-- not all the awful things it has to say about martyrdom, warfare and killing, unbelievers and polytheists, etc.