• US bans Middle East and North African international passengers from carrying larger electronics
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[QUOTE=LSK;51991930]You don't know why he brings his laptop with him when he travels or why he even travels in the first place. It could be for college, work or just because he wants to. He doesn't need to justify it. Why is how often he carries his personal belongings and what they are any business of yours? Why should that be taken away from him for no good reason?[/QUOTE] I didn't say it's a justified ban, I said it's dumb to treat it like more than an inconvenience. I have to take off my shoes at the airport and leave liquids at home both for no good reason, but regardless of how unjustified those measures are it would be silly for me to stop traveling overseas solely on account of that temporary inconvenience. If anything, the far more invasive measures that TSA has already enforced for the last decade and a half would be much more reason not to fly, so if I'm okay with those, why is checking a laptop a problem? Again, are you missing that you can still bring your laptop? [QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51991935]I myself would be fairly bloody annoyed and discouraged going to x country if I had to deal with a stupid inconvience just because Im travelling from y country.[/QUOTE] If you're traveling to the US you already have to deal with TSA's ridiculous powers, having to strip half your clothing to go through security, and being treated like a potential terrorist to begin with, undergoing ritual abuses for the unjustified security theater. Why is having to check your laptop for the flight over be the thing that crosses the line? 'I'm okay with getting groped by TSA agents, but checking my laptop is going too far'? I think this is probably an unjustified ban, a pain in the ass for legitimate fliers, and probably won't solve anything, but this histrionic reaction to the idea of having to part with your laptop for a few hours is a little ridiculous.
[QUOTE=catbarf;51991969]If you're traveling to the US you already have to deal with TSA's ridiculous powers, having to strip half your clothing to go through security, and being treated like a potential terrorist to begin with, undergoing ritual abuses for the unjustified security theater. Why is having to check your laptop for the flight over be the thing that crosses the line? 'I'm okay with getting groped by TSA agents, but checking my laptop is going too far'?[/QUOTE] You're assuming I would be OK with TSA agents, which I'm not. Where did I ever state this? I don't plan to ever go to the States unless it's business (and necessary business). But that's besides the point - does Pulse really need to justify the fact that he doesn't want to travel to the United States now after it's clear he'd be discriminated against - even in a small manner - by this? Seems fairly obvious to me that it's a logical position to take.
[QUOTE=LSK;51991202]Awesome! I feel so much safer from a non-existent threat.[/QUOTE] Hey man, those brown people are out to get us. /s
[QUOTE=catbarf;51991917]PulseFrog is saying he won't go to the US because he can't bring his laptop in carry-on. Yeah, this is a dumb ban. It's also stupid to act like checking your laptop in your luggage is an insurmountable obstacle to international travel. Did you three just not read what Rocketsnail was replying to, or are you actually saying you would rather cancel international travel than be parted with your computer for a few hours?[/QUOTE]The reason I wouldn't check it in with my luggage is because of the temperature at which the luggage is usually in. Another reason is that the potential for it to be damaged is much higher. Also, this is not a very good reason, but I've experienced this myself so I'll say it anyway; I've lost my luggage while flying several times, but this is not a very good reason because I was compensated for it. I do feel a bit silly for saying that I won't go just because I can't take my laptop with me, so I agree with catbarf on that. [editline]editline[/editline] My laptop (an ASUS ROG laptop) should not be exposed to temperatures bellow 5 C (according to the user manual). The flight from Jordan to the US takes more than 12 hours (without a transit). I think it is very risky to have electronics exposed to very low temperatures for 12 hours.
[QUOTE=PulseFrog;51992149]The reason I wouldn't check it in with my luggage is because of the temperature at which the luggage is usually in. Another reason is that the potential for it to be damaged is much higher. Also, this is not a very good reason, but I've experienced this myself so I'll say it anyway; I've lost my luggage while flying several times, but this is not a very good reason because I was compensated for it. I do feel a bit silly for saying that I won't go just because I can't take my laptop with me, so I agree with catbarf on that. [editline]editline[/editline] My laptop should not be exposed to temperatures bellow 5 C. The flight from Jordan to the US takes more than 12 hours (without a transit). I think it is very risky to have electronics exposed to very low temperatures for 12 hours.[/QUOTE] Can confirm, if you put your laptop in checked luggage you're asking for trouble. I've had batteries fail due to low temperatures, screens fail due to low temperatures, and laptops themselves broken to complete buggery because they were mishandled by disgruntled baggage handlers. The people trying to say this isn't a problem sound entitled as fuck. Imagine how much of a pain in the ass this is if you're travelling for work, let alone if you're a system engineer. Imagine travelling half way across the world for a job just to find out your tools are borked because some idiot mishandled them. This gets MUCH worse if your equipment is specialised. Not everyone uses ten a penny Mac's that can be found at most computer stores. Some of us rely on specific hardware so it can communicate properly with more often than not older, also.specialised hardware.
[QUOTE=catbarf;51991917]PulseFrog is saying he won't go to the US because he can't bring his laptop in carry-on. Yeah, this is a dumb ban. It's also stupid to act like checking your laptop in your luggage is an insurmountable obstacle to international travel. Did you three just not read what Rocketsnail was replying to, or are you actually saying you would rather cancel international travel than be parted with your computer for a few hours?[/QUOTE] I would never put fragile electronics in checked luggage, especially on an international flight. No way. I packed a small desktop computer in a pile of pillows once and it still came out dented at the other end, and I've had my luggage lost twice now.
the insanely shit quality of baggage handling is why I rebuilt my desktop to be the size of a shoebox. Never gonna have to deal with that shit again.
see this is why a president with a serious credability deficit is a problem, this is either muslim ban 3.0 or an actual credible threat but we cant fucking tell because of the goddamn presidency being a 3 ring circuis
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51991811][IMG]https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/bag_check.png[/IMG] TSA confirmed XKCD readers[/QUOTE] As I mentioned in the UK thread, this is less about stopping bombs and more about stopping chemical weapons which may be hidden in laptop batteries. Releasing chemical weapons into a confined and recycled atmosphere isn't going to end well. But feel free to ignore the credible information from security analysts, after all they're just racist (it's not like ISIS have confirmed access to chemical weapons along with the possible ability to manufacture ones they haven't yet obtained) and someone being able work during a flight is much more important than potentially thousands of innocent people's lives if a planes pilots are gassed while landing or flying over a city.
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