[QUOTE=Daniel M;40733286]
Name 5 decent Xbox exclusives that aren't sequels.
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Wait seriously? Half of your exclusives you listed for the playstation were sequels, that isn't fair?
I was about to buy a console for mah tv for the first time after buying ps2. I guess ps4 is the way to go.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40733312]Dude
You don't get it.
I'm not fucking defending anything here. But you are making assumptions to attack it. There is a difference between these positions and you are getting overly aggressive because someone is calling out your assumptions.
Stop it and simmer down boy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm attacking it because I'm sick of consumers/developers getting fucked over by Microsoft. They made some of the dumbest design decisions I've ever seen and I'm surprised these guys weren't booed off the stage today, guess they didn't give anyone the chance with all their "PR speak" that didn't give anyone really any information other than what it looks like, some pre-rendered footage of games that will eventually come over (probably footage captured on a PC/PS4).
I'm not a fan boy of anything, I'm open to moving over to the better product and I call it as I see it and well, as I said earlier, I can't see the dust on my 360 because it's white.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40733324]At least it has exclusives. That are quite good regardless of whether you like them or not. Also I'm sorry you have bad tastes.[/QUOTE]
What an immature thing. You realize that peoples tastes are different because... well, people are different...
If the greatest chef in the world took a mouthful of elephant shit and told you that was the best food in the world, are you going to eat it because he has good taste? I mean, he is clearly a chef right?
Just because you don't like the same games I do and I don't like the same games you do, doesn't mean one of us has bad taste (apparently that is me).
[QUOTE=Squad;40733336]Wait seriously? Half of your exclusives you listed for the playstation were sequels, that isn't fair?[/QUOTE]
The Last of Us
Little Big Planet
inFamous
Uncharted
Heavy Rain
Took me two seconds. I'm saying you can't list "HALO 3 HALO REACH HALO WARS HALO ODST HALO 4 GEARS OF WAR GEARS OF WAR 2 GEARS OF WAR 3 GEARS OF WAR whateveritscalled"
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40733346]Yeah, I'm attacking it because I'm sick of consumers/developers getting fucked over by Microsoft. They made some of the dumbest design decisions I've ever seen and I'm surprised these guys weren't booed off the stage today, guess they didn't give anyone the chance with all their "PR speak" that didn't give anyone really any information other than what it looks like, some pre-rendered footage of games that will eventually come over (probably footage captured on a PC/PS4).
I'm not a fan boy of anything, I'm open to moving over to the better product and I call it as I see it and well, as I said earlier, I can't see the dust on my 360 because it's white.[/QUOTE]
again you make another blatant assumption to get a dig in
i'm not defending anyone
i'd just rather not make judgements based off of assumptions
something you seem to be happy to do as well as making those assumptions yourself.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40733362]again you make another blatant assumption to get a dig in
i'm not defending anyone
i'd just rather not make judgements based off of assumptions
something you seem to be happy to do as well as making those assumptions yourself.[/QUOTE]
Assumptions based on logic.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40733359]The Last of Us
Little Big Planet
inFamous
Uncharted
Heavy Rain
Took me two seconds. I'm saying you can't list "HALO 3 HALO REACH HALO WARS HALO ODST HALO 4 GEARS OF WAR GEARS OF WAR 2 GEARS OF WAR 3 GEARS OF WAR whateveritscalled"[/QUOTE]
3 of those are series.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40733346]Yeah, I'm attacking it because I'm sick of consumers/developers getting fucked over by Microsoft. They made some of the dumbest design decisions I've ever seen and I'm surprised these guys weren't booed off the stage today, guess they didn't give anyone the chance with all their "PR speak" that didn't give anyone really any information other than what it looks like, some pre-rendered footage of games that will eventually come over (probably footage captured on a PC/PS4).
I'm not a fan boy of anything, I'm open to moving over to the better product and I call it as I see it and well, as I said earlier, I can't see the dust on my 360 because it's white.[/QUOTE]
You are more than a fanboy...
You CAN NOT in the same post say that the Xbox team used a PS4 to render their game footage to show and then say you are not a fanboy...
You basically just admitted you think the PS4 is the greatest thing ever no matter what and that the Xbox is so shitty that they had to use a PS4 to get the job done... Yeah, not a fanboy...
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40733371]Assumptions based on logic.[/QUOTE]
because you say it is doesn't make it so.
you're a "game developer" not fucking jesus, you don't know everything and you certainly don't know enough for all of your assumptions to be true, nor do you have authoritative tastes on what is good and bad so stop acting like you do.
i mean where the fuck is the logic in "probably a pre rendered vid on PS4"
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40733359]The Last of Us
Little Big Planet
inFamous
Uncharted
Heavy Rain
Took me two seconds. I'm saying you can't list "HALO 3 HALO REACH HALO WARS HALO ODST HALO 4 GEARS OF WAR GEARS OF WAR 2 GEARS OF WAR 3 GEARS OF WAR whateveritscalled"[/QUOTE]
Again, just because there are games you like doesn't make the system better in general. The system is better for you, because it has the games you play.
I don't play any of those games. So by your logic, the playstation is the worst console in the world because I don't like those games. That seems fair right?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40733372]3 of those are series.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter. I'm saying you can't say "1/2/3/4/5"
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40733604]Doesn't matter. I'm saying you can't say "1/2/3/4/5"[/QUOTE]
Again, you can't judge how good a console is based on the games you like to play.
I knew these debates would begin immediately. Just give it a fucking rest. The console isn't even fucking out, and there is probably still a lot we don't know.
[QUOTE=ihatecompvir;40733648]I knew these debates would begin immediately. Just give it a fucking rest. The console isn't even fucking out, and there is probably still a lot we don't know.[/QUOTE]
But they said that the Xbox One will have an 8 core cpu. That means that it has no ram, you have to sacrifice a goat to play, GPU doesn't exist, it will over heat, it uses double A batteries, and the games will all suck.
So much for renting a game out for a few days...
[QUOTE=Squad;40733669]But they said that the Xbox One will have an 8 core cpu. That means that it has no ram, you have to sacrifice a goat to play, GPU doesn't exist, it will over heat, it uses double A batteries, and the games will all suck.[/QUOTE]
don't forget how it takes over your eyes and forces popup advertisements for will.i.am
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;40733810]don't forget how it takes over your eyes and forces popup advertisements for will.i.am[/QUOTE]
Those bastards.
[QUOTE=Squad;40733645]Again, you can't judge how good a console is based on the games you like to play.[/QUOTE]
Okay well if you want to play the games that are on every other console, get an Xbox. Otherwise, get a Playstation 4.
I'm not going to read through ten pages just to see if anyone else has posted this, but:
I checked out the articles from several other sites such as Wired, and I'm getting this impression. Yes, a disc needs to be tied to an Xbox so you can [b]install[/b] it on the Xbox so you can play without the disc, but I think if you have the disc (which is already tied to another account) you can still play it on another Xbox without paying the fee, but if you want to install the game onto that Xbox then you would need to pay the fee.
Then again it does say mandatory installation is required, but that might be sensationalism or if it isn't MS might change their minds later on.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40733382]because you say it is doesn't make it so.
you're a "game developer" not fucking jesus, you don't know everything and you certainly don't know enough for all of your assumptions to be true, nor do you have authoritative tastes on what is good and bad so stop acting like you do.
i mean where the fuck is the logic in "probably a pre rendered vid on PS4"[/QUOTE]
Specs are specs. If you know how to read them, you can probably figure how fast it's going to be. Now, it gets a little hazy when you factor in software. I've always felt as the Xbox OS has been bloated with tons and tons of background processes, the lack of memory certainly didn't help [b]but[/b] now that they're running on an X86 architecture, I'm going to LOGICALLY assume it's using the same old Windows NT kernel due to the fact that pretty much every piece of software Microsoft has released since 2000 has used the same kernel.
From the news, it states that it runs THREE OPERATING SYSTEMS, including a scaled down copy of Windows 8 RT for applications, which I assume will be the same apps I'm running on my Windows 8 desktop in Metro.
So given the background behind these companies and their philosophies as a company
Microsoft: $$$MONEY MONEY MONEY$$$
Sony: Slow and steady wins the race, also we took a loss on every console we sold
I would definitely say Sony will be the better performing console. Cue the neckbearded keyboard warriors that tell me I'm wrong and that I'm just assuming.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40734484]Okay well if you want to play the games that are on every other console, get an Xbox. Otherwise, get a Playstation 4.[/QUOTE]
You just don't understand... Clearly you enjoy the games on the Playstation 4, so you should get a Playstation 4.
I don't think you quite grasp the idea of subjectivity. One day maybe you'll invest in a dictionary.
[QUOTE=Squad;40734619]You just don't understand... Clearly you enjoy the games on the Playstation 4, so you should get a Playstation 4.
I don't think you quite grasp the idea of subjectivity. One day maybe you'll invest in a dictionary.[/QUOTE]
And one day you'll invest in an Xbox One just to play the same games that I'm playing and miss out on dozens upon dozens of amazing exclusives, again.
Enjoy your buyer's remorse.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40734584]Specs are specs. If you know how to read them, you can probably figure how fast it's going to be. Now, it gets a little hazy when you factor in software. I've always felt as the Xbox OS has been bloated with tons and tons of background processes, the lack of memory certainly didn't help [b]but[/b] now that they're running on an X86 architecture, I'm going to LOGICALLY assume it's using the same old Windows NT kernel due to the fact that pretty much every piece of software Microsoft has released since 2000 has used the same kernel.
From the news, it states that it runs THREE OPERATING SYSTEMS, including a scaled down copy of Windows 8 RT for applications, which I assume will be the same apps I'm running on my Windows 8 desktop in Metro.
So given the background behind these companies and their philosophies as a company
Microsoft: $$$MONEY MONEY MONEY$$$
Sony: Slow and steady wins the race, also we took a loss on every console we sold
[/QUOTE]
Specs are specs... except you don't know the full detailed specs of both systems... So how can you make that judgement call? You are basically saying the PS4 is better to something that you don't know the specs to.
We barely know the specs of the PS4, nothing was very specific. So specs are specs, unless you don't know the specs.
Also, the point about Sony selling their console for a loss? Guess what? Microsoft did the same thing. The Wii U is doing the same thing now. That doesn't make Sony special when all of the companies sell their console at a loss.
You continuously try to post and make the Playstation seem like this grand contraption while bashing the Xbox for no other reason than you are being a petty fanboy.
[editline]22nd May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40734634]And one day you'll invest in an Xbox One just to play the same games that I'm playing and miss out on dozens upon dozens of amazing exclusives, again.
Enjoy your buyer's remorse.[/QUOTE]
I guess I'll save you a trip.
sub·jec·tive
/səbˈjektiv/
Adjective
Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
See? Based on or influenced by personal FEELINGS, TASTES, or OPINIONS.
I don't like any of those exclusives, so why should that be why I pick the Playstation?
I am waiting to see which is the better console. NOT SUBJECTIVELY, but factually.
You can only grasp subject traits such as exclusives.
And if I end up getting an Xbox One, I'll be sure to buy Halo, Gears of War, and Forza so I can watch you play the same games.
Oh and guess what? If I buy a Playstation 4, I am going to buy an Xbox shaped controller for it, because that is one thing that IS better than Playstation.
Really? You say that you're going to get Halo and Gears of War and Forza and you'll watch me play the same games? I can't pick up whether you're being ironic or not.
Hope your controller makes up for the lack of exclusive games. Enjoy your multiplatform titles and Forza.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40734766]Really? You say that you're going to get Halo and Gears of War and Forza and you'll watch me play the same games? I can't pick up whether you're being ironic or not.
Hope your controller makes up for the lack of exclusive games. Enjoy your multiplatform titles and Forza.[/QUOTE]
Man you just aren't very smart...
You said I should get the Xbox and miss out because you can play the same games.
I then listed Xbox exclusives, knowing good and well you couldn't play them.
Well, I am done. Clearly I have wasted several hours talking to what appears to be some kind of dull tool in a shed.
P.S. for the 500th time today. I am undecided in which console I am buying. Unlike you, I am not a fanboy so I am open to the best console. However, I am going to wait until both consoles are revealed in their entirety. I'm glad you act childish and grasp onto Sony like a hipster to his iMac.
[QUOTE=Squad;40734817]Man you just aren't very smart...
You said I should get the Xbox and miss out because you can play the same games.
I then listed Xbox exclusives, knowing good and well you couldn't play them.
Well, I am done. Clearly I have wasted several hours talking to what appears to be some kind of dull tool in a shed.
P.S. for the 500th time today. I am undecided in which console I am buying. Unlike you, I am not a fanboy so I am open to the best console. However, I am going to wait until both consoles are revealed in their entirety. I'm glad you act childish and grasp onto Sony like a hipster to his iMac.[/QUOTE]
Okay well I don't know what the fuck you meant because the "same games" could've meant "the same repetitive bullshit" or the "same multiplatform games that you play on your Xbox".
How fucking petty are you? Attacking me over something like that.
Also for the 500th time, I've owned every home console from the 16 bit generation onwards. I go where the games are and it seems to me like the Xbox One might be the first console I skip. I'm sick of the same space shooter bullshit. I'm sick of Microsoft's shit treatment of developers. I'm sick of Microsoft's nickel and diming for everything there is. I'm sick of people like you that say "oh well I'll just get an Xbox because I'll be able to play the multiplatform games"
Okay, well why not get the console with the multiplatform games and enjoy the exclusives that aren't RACIN' SHOOTIN' AND.... can't come up with a third thing.
[QUOTE=Squad;40734817]Man you just aren't very smart...
You said I should get the Xbox and miss out because you can play the same games.
I then listed Xbox exclusives, knowing good and well you couldn't play them.
Well, I am done. Clearly I have wasted several hours talking to what appears to be some kind of dull tool in a shed.
P.S. for the 500th time today. I am undecided in which console I am buying. Unlike you, I am not a fanboy so I am open to the best console. However, I am going to wait until both consoles are revealed in their entirety. I'm glad you act childish and grasp onto Sony like a hipster to his iMac.[/QUOTE]
well the ps3 did have more AAA exclusives than the x360
[QUOTE=Juniez;40734898]well the ps3 did have more AAA exclusives than the x360[/QUOTE]
A lot more.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;40734852]Okay well I don't know what the fuck you meant because the "same games" could've meant "the same repetitive bullshit" or the "same multiplatform games that you play on your Xbox".
How fucking petty are you? Attacking me over something like that.
Also for the 500th time, I've owned every home console from the 16 bit generation onwards. I go where the games are and it seems to me like the Xbox One might be the first console I skip. I'm sick of the same space shooter bullshit. I'm sick of Microsoft's shit treatment of developers. I'm sick of Microsoft's nickel and diming for everything there is. I'm sick of people like you that say "oh well I'll just get an Xbox because I'll be able to play the multiplatform games"
Okay, well why not get the console with the multiplatform games and enjoy the exclusives that aren't RACIN' SHOOTIN' AND.... can't come up with a third thing.[/QUOTE]
Again, I am completely undecided at this point. I am not getting a Playstation 4 because I don't know enough about it. I am not getting an Xbox One because I don't know much about it.
What I saw from Xbox today, seemed very interesting. If they can make it work and turn it into a gaming machine, I think it will be perfect.
We still have E3 to look forward to. As far as anyone knows at E3, Microsoft is going to unveil the Xbox One as an ultimate gaming machine that is perfect in every way.
Maybe they will unveil a piece of shit that only runs facebook games. No one knows, but I am waiting until that point before I start spouting off that one console is better than the other like some people on this forum.
[editline]22nd May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Juniez;40734898]well the ps3 did have more AAA exclusives than the x360[/QUOTE]
My whole point about the exclusives was that not everyone likes those games. I don't really enjoy nor would I buy any of the Playstation 3 exclusives. It doesn't matter if they won 500 awards or were nominated for best game on the planet, I just don't care for them.
The games on each console is a subjective rating. If you really like Who wants to be a millionaire and its only on Xbox that's great. Xbox now has an exclusive that Who wants to be a millionaire fans love. That doesn't mean that I can say, "well you have to like this console, Playstation doesn't have who wants to be a millionaire."
The games available for the consoles is PURELY opinion based on whether or not you like them.
God of War? Okay, so? Doesn't impress me, I wasn't going to buy it, so why should I care its on that system?
I am looking at what the system offers, if it fits into my life style, and is it going to be a machine I am going to enjoy.
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