Man tried to grab gun and kill Donald Trump at Vegas rally. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Killuah;50557552]So what? I'm sure Trump had a gun with himself for defense.... :downs:[/QUOTE] Is this really the appropriate place to attempt to start a fight about gun control? The guy tried to steal an officer's gun, he didn't have one himself, and it's possible Trump [i]would[/i] have had a gun for self defence on him if he didn't have the secret service and body guards but this doesn't really have anything to do with the event that just happened.

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50557357]Would be JFK all over again.[/QUOTE] *Robert Kennedy

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50557604]No I clearly meant [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy"]John F. Kennedy[/URL].[/QUOTE] I think they're trying to say RFK would be a more appropriate comparison because he was a candidate at the time of his assassination as well, not a president like JFK was.

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[QUOTE=FetusFondler;50557414]So what, is that an excuse to attempt an assassination? Are you gonna do that to every candidate that's not on "your side"? Just do the reasonable thing and posts threats on twitter about leaving to Canada that you won't actually act upon if the candidate you don't like is elected[/QUOTE] No? I'm just saying that the would-be assassin most likely believed that the consequences of Trump being elected would be catastrophic, and that it wasn't about "not liking him" or "being butthurt". You don't plan a suicide mission for a year from being butthurt, the man was clearly genuinely worried that Trump was the next Hitler, or would cause World War 3, or was the Antichrist, or what do I know. And no I'm not saying that his fears are reasonable, whatever they are. I'm saying this is about potential global consequences, it's more than just being upset that your team lost the game.

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;50557357]Would be JFK all over again.[/QUOTE] RFK really, but with modern medicine there's a good chance he would have survived which would have made it almost impossible for Hillary to run against him

Killing Trump would have an immeasurably large impact on growing far right and hardline conservative popularity, he would have achieved nothing by killing Trump In the eyes of his supporters, he would have been made a martyr if he was killed. The sort of people who flock to Trump are the people who already feel alienated by the establishment and current politicians, since they are too relatively moderate (or too sensible) to suggest anything like he has. His supporters already have their narrative written as the left wing/liberals being a violent bully towards them because of violence breaking out at his rallies and because of violent anti-fascist movements in the western world. This would play on their confirmation biases immensely.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;50557475]It's been that way since the Anarchists. Well, it's been that way since politics, but the Anarchists were the first time you really got people killing political figures without gaining anything out of it.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say they didn't get anything out of their efforts. Here in the United States, it's because of [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz]an anarchist[/url] assassinating William McKinley that we got Theodore Roosevelt into the presidency, and thereby all the wonderful things his administration did for the country. The [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz]Haymarket Riot/Bombing[/url] in Chicago in 1886 also helped to solidify the resistance of the labor movement against big business and the government. And then there were the Russian anarchists who successfully fought back against the Tsarist secret police (like [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Stepnyak-Kravchinsky]the man who killed their chief[/url]). Also, Mussolini was almost successfully assassinated by [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anteo_Zamboni]a 15-year-old anarchist[/url].

[QUOTE=Thlis;50557526]We should be putting media outlets to task for outright endorsing political violence regarding this election. I can only see this getting worse in the coming months.[/QUOTE] What outlets?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;50557773]What outlets?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html[/url] [quote]Sorry Liberals, A Violent Response To Trump Is As Logical As Any[/quote]

[QUOTE=Thlis;50557797][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html[/url][/QUOTE] Saw something similar in Vox but IIRC they deleted the post and sacked the author

[QUOTE=Thlis;50557797][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html[/url][/QUOTE] For a second I thought it would be an official article, turns out to be a blog.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;50557475]It's been that way since the Anarchists. Well, it's been that way since politics, but the Anarchists were the first time you really got people killing political figures without gaining anything out of it.[/QUOTE] no that's sort of always been a thing

Can't stump the trump [video=youtube;RGmZNlYtJsM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGmZNlYtJsM[/video]

[QUOTE=Thlis;50557797][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html[/url][/QUOTE] Do you have any other examples? Preferably not blogs that have already been put to task?

[QUOTE=Killuah;50557552]So what? I'm sure Trump had a gun with himself for defense.... :downs:[/QUOTE] He does though. He's admitted he carries on SNL and elsewhere

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;50557345]Could you imagine if it worked, though? We haven't had a major assassination like that in the US in a while.[/QUOTE] I think it's inevitable that he'll be killed off. This was the first assassination attempt on him, and it occurred three months ago: [media]https://youtu.be/LJ8-RaXE7O0[/media]

[QUOTE=Cock Boner;50557405]no wonder he didn't know how holsters work[/QUOTE] Wasn't there a UK woman who made a post that she could do this and kill an entire McDonald's when she saw a cop infront of her in line [editline]20th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;50558164]I think it's inevitable that he'll be killed off. This was the first assassination attempt on him, and it occurred three months ago:[/QUOTE] People said same shit about Obama and he's still alive despite attempts and threats. It's not as easy as it was in 1963. Hell supposedly Lee Harvey Oswald conspired with gov. insiders. It wasn't totally simple then either.

Planning for a year and didn't know you can't easily take a gun off a cop's holster. He also didn't realize he could have easily just bought a gun, I mean if he was planning on dying then it wouldn't really matter if he got it legit or not. Good job there.

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50558225]Planning for a year and didn't know you can't easily take a gun off a cop's holster. He also didn't realize he could have easily just bought a gun, I mean if he was planning on dying then it wouldn't really matter if he got it legit or not. Good job there.[/QUOTE] If I had to guess he probably wouldn't be able to get the gun inside the event. [editline]20th June 2016[/editline] He's still a total dumbass though.

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50558234]If I had to guess he probably wouldn't be able to get the gun inside the event. [editline]20th June 2016[/editline] He's still a total dumbass though.[/QUOTE] Do they check for guns at these rallies? [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] I mean I assume they don't check hundreds of people on entry for guns and unless it's exposed they won't really care.

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50558225]He also didn't realize he could have easily just bought a gun, I mean if he was planning on dying then it wouldn't really matter if he got it legit or not.[/QUOTE]This is one of the few times where gun control works because this retard wouldn't be clever enough to buy one from some crackhead on the street. :v: Or make one, it's not like hardware stores are hard to find. [QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50558167]Wasn't there a UK woman who made a post that she could do this and kill an entire McDonald's when she saw a cop infront of her in line[/QUOTE]I think it was a coffee shop, all I remember was she had a huge forehead.

Should have bought a couple 2 or 3 stage holsters and practiced first ya dipshit, if that was your plan

[QUOTE=TheTalon;50558274]Should have bought a couple 2 or 3 stage holsters and practiced first ya dipshit, if that was your plan[/QUOTE] it's not like the cop wouldn't have instantly elbowed the kid in the face and beat the shit out of him had he managed to undo the holster. also, had trump been shot and killed, i wonder which rep dildo would take his place?

[QUOTE=Pops;50558291]it's not like the cop wouldn't have instantly elbowed the kid in the face and beat the shit out of him had he managed to undo the holster. also, had trump been shot and killed, i wonder which rep dildo would take his place?[/QUOTE] Nope, the only way you're going to unholster a cop's gun as fast as they can do it is if you practiced for a long time while wearing one yourself, then came up behind him in a loving embrace and they happen to have the same holster. The only other way you're going to do it is be some 250lb monster of a dude and rip the holster off the belt if it's a plastic holster with brute force Good luck

Oh they actually had metal detectors in place there, yeah guess he couldn't have brought a gun in. [quote]Attendees had to pass through metal detectors manned by Secret Service, police and casino security officials.[/quote] Also he's 19 years old, that's really damn young to be throwing his life away for something like this, there must be other problems with him.

[QUOTE=Dr._Medic;50557364]He's from the UK apparently, they found a UK driver's license on him[/QUOTE] Shit like that starts world wars.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;50558375]Shit like that starts world wars.[/QUOTE] tensions aren't nearly as high between UK and US as they were between serbia and austria-hungary in 1914 so i don't think that would happen even if a UK citizen successfully assassinated a US president in office

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;50558375]Shit like that starts world wars.[/QUOTE] This isn't exactly a Franz Ferdinand scenario.

If nothing else it's gonna make the people think twice about listening to UK citizens about voting, which while not as bad as a war it'll still be considered a negative effect here