• Critics will have little impact on "review-proof" Call of Duty: Ghosts, says analyst
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I feel like I've commited some sort of sin for liking COD4 I totally contributed to this. Anyway, it's incredibly sad but true. Every CoD game gets met with worse and worse reception but does just as well, so it doesn't matter. You have to wait for dudebros to stop being cancer.
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;42778086]I feel like I've commited some sort of sin for liking COD4 I totally contributed to this. Anyway, it's incredibly sad but true. Every CoD game gets met with worse and worse reception but does just as well, so it doesn't matter. You have to wait for dudebros to stop being cancer.[/QUOTE] idk what youre talking about. COD4 was a good game by almost everyones standards. the issue is that the series completely stagnated and they basically let it devolve into reusing old maps as DLC.
I loved COD4 at the time it was genuinely new and innovative the problem was that they just kept copy pasting it because they recieved praise what I was saying is I feel guilty if only I could've stopped it
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;42777749]audiophiles don't pre-order expensive things without looking at reviews on the chance that they are good. they just buy expensive things that are supposed to be better.[/QUOTE] Placebophiles are worse than even the most rabid COD fans who buy a prestige edition every year. At least with every new COD there are still changes no matter how subtle, audiophiles spend thousands of dollars on gear such as amplifiers, cd players, and dacs that will make absolutely no discernible difference to how their setup sound like.
[QUOTE=The golden;42777832]Then wait for a review after it launches? Why do people need to own the game the second it launches? Thanks to such lack of patience - most people are now out $60 that they otherwise could have saved.[/QUOTE] That's why they try to get you with pre-order bonuses. Thanks to that, I fell right into that trap with Arkham Origins and feel terrible for giving them my money. Won't make that same mistake with NFS Rivals.
Too big to fail, etc.
[QUOTE=pentium;42777169]It's not 90 or better so it's obviously horrible and enough reason to shutter the studio and fire all the employees.[/QUOTE] That's what we call 'an EA'
[QUOTE=redBadger;42777151]They act like a score of 70/100 is bad[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.studentmoneysaver.co.uk/resource/binary/1621d6dbe3391ae57e06549dd11291a6/phptNkvVT.jpg[/IMG] Haven't you ever noticed Red that reviews are always either between 6 and 10 unless the game is like Superman 64?
[QUOTE=Reshy;42778610][IMG]http://www.studentmoneysaver.co.uk/resource/binary/1621d6dbe3391ae57e06549dd11291a6/phptNkvVT.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] It's because of the grading system and how people tend to vote on opposite scales of the spectrum. People think anything below a 70 is garbage because that's how we were raised to see grades. And when to comes to voting, a lot of people vote perfect or 0, which is precisely why youtube changed to thumbs up/down. The problem with this is that if a quater of people dislike the game in any way, it's seen as trash.
Read: "We know that no matter how shit the game we make is, as long as we label is as Call of Duty, it will sell."
[QUOTE=Lamar;42778306]Placebophiles are worse than even the most rabid COD fans who buy a prestige edition every year. At least with every new COD there are still changes no matter how subtle, audiophiles spend thousands of dollars on gear such as amplifiers, cd players, and dacs that will make absolutely no discernible difference to how their setup sound like.[/QUOTE] There is actually technology backing up audiophiles though, if you know anything about sampling you should know that consumer-grade technology isn't the best available. As much as there are differences in audio equipment, I agree it's mostly a waste of money.
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;42777442]I just, I really wish the call of duty series was packed away before COD4 there are terrible business and development decisions i see in the video game industry, made for the purpose of attaining the "holy grail" of the COD development and profit formula, that anger me at the same level as the decisions made by the higher-ups in the companies that caused the 2008 US recession-depression[/QUOTE] But COD4 was good. Really good. The problem was getting a new $60 package of the same thing every year while tech, games, and multiplayer structure moved up and COD didn't.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;42777123]Pretty much. CoD's become so entrenched that there's legions of idiots drooling over this game who'll get it no matter what, blind to how bad it actually is.[/QUOTE] Oh I didn't know I was an idiot because I thought a video game was fun
[QUOTE=Jonii;42778754]But COD4 was good. Really good. The problem was getting a new $60 package of the same thing every year while tech, games, and multiplayer structure moved up and COD didn't.[/QUOTE] i know, i liked COD4 too. but i would trade it any day of the week for an industry without the publishers that slave drive developers for yearly releases with maximum hype, little bug testing, cheapened content, day one DLC, "season passes," standard $60 price tag (no matter the amount of content), microtransactions, "cinematic" scenebuilding, crap writing, necessary multiplayer, press release embargoes, sweetened review scores, etc...
[QUOTE=Saxon;42777011][URL="http://www.gamespot.com/articles/critics-will-have-little-impact-on-review-proof-call-of-duty-ghosts-says-analyst/1100-6415991/"]www.gamespot.com/articles/critics-will-have-little-impact-on-review-proof-call-of-duty-ghosts-says-analyst/1100-6415991/[/URL] Rather depressing[/QUOTE] That's why embargoes exist. Nothing kills sales fast than a low score
i am the ambassador of hating call of duty and i must say the sales really need to drop to end this dark age of gaming
I knew one kid who pre-ordered it and played it but right now everyone here is playing GTA V or Battlefield 4
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;42778832]Oh I didn't know I was an idiot because I thought a video game was fun[/QUOTE] You are supporting bad business practices and telling a company that they can get away with their laziness, while showing other companies that it takes no effort to be a best seller which means those multi-million dollar AAA titles don't bother to make any real innovations. Maybe not idiotic but pretty foolish.
This was about copy protection but it applies here too: [quote]I especially have a hard time having any sympathy because so many of the industry's problems are of its own making. They chose to focus on shaderific HD graphics over long-lasting appeal and gameplay; they chose to focus on linear scripted cinematic B-movie imitations that were only good for one playthrough instead of replayability and open-ended design; they chose to pour so much money and marketing into military porn and fetishized violent shootbang Press A to Awesome titles, exactly the kinds of games that hardcore gamers, the most likely gamers to trade in games quickly were prone to buying and reselling; and perhaps most galling, they chose to give Gamestop loads of exclusive pre-order bonuses while they knew exactly what Gamestop would say to those customers once in the store. They kept making insanely lavish and nonsensical displays of spectacular whizz-bang, despite that being exactly the kind of game most susceptible to trading after one week because there was nothing left to do with it. And now they're discovering that putting so many insanely expensive eggs into one fragile and easily breakable basket is maybe not the most sustainable business model ever.[/quote]
Its funny how the article mentions "COD as being like EAs Madden" I kinda forgot Madden games even exist anymore until I read that. Maybe the same will happen with COD some day. [sp]who am I kidding[/sp]
[QUOTE=HTS CONNER;42781826]Its funny how the article mentions "COD as being like EAs Madden" I kinda forgot Madden games even exist anymore until I read that. Maybe the same will happen with COD some day. [sp]who am I kidding[/sp][/QUOTE] You may have forgotten Madden but that doesn't mean it's not selling anymore. EA's got so many customers who buy those games out of habit now that there's hardly any need for huge, extravagant advertising campaigns anymore.
I think CoD: Ghosts is great. Been playing it all day. I only say that though because I got it for free :V. I feel bad for anyone that pays 60$ for it though. If they made a CoD game every year with a price point of 30-35$ each year I would have no problem with it.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;42778644]It's because of the grading system and how people tend to vote on opposite scales of the spectrum. People think anything below a 70 is garbage because that's how we were raised to see grades. And when to comes to voting, a lot of people vote perfect or 0, which is precisely why youtube changed to thumbs up/down. The problem with this is that if a quater of people dislike the game in any way, it's seen as trash.[/QUOTE] Critics, or at least gaming ones, tend to avoid the 1 and 10 ratings, though and instead tend to rub up against them with scores like 9.8 or 2.0, I suppose to preserve the "value" of games that actually have been rated 1 or 10.
Critics do, users don't.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;42782991]Critics, or at least gaming ones, tend to avoid the 1 and 10 ratings, though and instead tend to rub up against them with scores like 9.8 or 2.0, I suppose to preserve the "value" of games that actually have been rated 1 or 10.[/QUOTE] Well it's either that or how much shit they could face from the game's publisher if they slapped it with the lowest rating possible. I can imagine getting away with slapping as bad as that Big Rigs game with a one, if not zero out of ten, but giving that kind of score to a bigger budget game is likely to draw a lot of flak from the publisher (and it's well oiled legal and PR team), who could try and fuck you over and mess with your career.
They compare it to Madden or Fifa, but at least, in the case of Fifa, it puts out a nice bunch of new features and improvements in gameplay and AI every couple or so of releases, unlike CoD.
How to actually know which games are good: rent it. If it's good, buy it. If it isn't, burn it.
[QUOTE=barttool;42783647]They compare it to Madden or Fifa, but at least, in the case of Fifa, it puts out a nice bunch of new features and improvements in gameplay and AI every couple or so of releases, unlike CoD.[/QUOTE] Unless it's Wii Fifa in which case they literally [i]will[/i] take the exact same game, tweak the teams for accuracy, and release it
[QUOTE=RikohZX;42783847]Unless it's Wii Fifa in which case they literally [i]will[/i] take the exact same game, tweak the teams for accuracy, and release it[/QUOTE] yeah but that's common practice with outdated consoles. Wii consumers won't be complaining too much.
only 2 CoD's i liked, the first one to have nazi zombies, then the one that had Nazi Zombies with JFK and Nixon killing them CoD:blackops was actually interesting because it was a fresh take on the whole war game, also it had nazi zombies with nixon and JFK fighting against zombies.... anyone else remember when this game was about ww2?
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