Trump calls Putin "a leader far more than [Obama] has been" - Polidicks

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51018371]Putin and Trump both operate based off of cult of personality. It makes no surprise to see them be friends and be similar but I feel like it's just Putin pushing Trump around. Trump will just get manipulated and played by Putin. Put ins a genuinely scary person. Trump is a bully. Bullies always lose to the real scary guys.[/QUOTE] Every leader runs on CoP, just listen to the song again.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51018356]Leadership-wise? Yeah, I probably agree, if only because of how uninspiring and dividing of a leader Obama is.[/QUOTE] Yeah, if only Obama had the strength to have his critics and opponents jailed on trumped up causes or suspiciously murdered on the streets. Or maybe invading British Columbia and annexing it to the United States in a blatant sham election is more up your alley?

Obama was a pretty weak leader.

Obama is charismatic but underwhelming and just not a noteworthy president

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51019823]Since he's pretty much a dictator who bullies our eastern allies? Fuck yeah it would be bad.[/QUOTE] Forgive me for sounding callous but I'm really only concerned for the US. Would it really be so bad for the United States? [editline]8th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=*Freezorg*;51020992]Obama is charismatic but underwhelming and just not a noteworthy president[/QUOTE] This is what happens when your campaign platform sounds too good to be true.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51021074]Forgive me for sounding callous but I'm really only concerned for the US. Would it really be so bad for the United States?[/QUOTE] Would it really be so [I]good[/I] for the United States? We'd lose a lot of support from our allies in western Europe, and Putin would exploit the relationship to try and make America subservient to their interests. That's why he wants Trump to be president, because Trump's easy to manipulate. Putin would have free reign to invade more countries and start more wars knowing the US is on his side.

[QUOTE=Pops;51020632]Every leader runs on CoP, just listen to the song again.[/QUOTE] I think you'll find Obama and Putin share nothing in common in terms of "Cult of personality" compared to Donald and Putin. Do you really think Obama has an iron grip on the government like Putin does in his nation? I wouldn't really be surprised if people who are going to vote Trump think that Obama's a villain, but it's just a giant fabrication. [editline]8th September 2016[/editline] It's so weird you people think Putin wants Trump because they'll be buddy buddy. No, he wants Trump because Putin will push him around like the little whiny man baby bitch that he is.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51021074]Forgive me for sounding callous but I'm really only concerned for the US. Would it really be so bad for the United States? [/QUOTE] Obama campaigned on smoothing things out with Russia back in 2008. Putin took that as an opportunity to make a bunch of aggressive power plays. I mean for fucks sake the FBI is looking into Russia meddling with our presidential election this cycle. Russia took repeated offers on the path to friendship over the past eight years to outwardly fuck with us. [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi#Relations_with_Russia"]Putin boosted Berlusconi[/URL] and keeps [URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-is-infiltrating-europe-2014-12"]giving support to far-right anti-EU parties throughout Europe[/URL]. Russia has been working to destabilize Europe, NATO, and the United States. Sure, Obama might be underwhelming, but he's level headed and pretty cool-tempered. If you're willing to ignore Trump's ties to Putin and Manafort and honestly think that Trump is looking to cool tensions between the US and Russia, do you really expect that he'll be able to walk the tightrope that is international politics given his consistent behavior throughout this election cycle?

Well, yeah, Putin's a strong leader for better or for worse. Hitler was also a strong leader. Obama isn't terrible but I certainly wouldn't call him strong.

I like Obama and I think most of the country approves of him. It's hard to see how he could do much better given how the republicans have leaped so far off the deep end.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51021754]I like Obama and I think most of the country approves of him. It's hard to see how he could do much better given how the republicans have leaped so far off the deep end.[/QUOTE] most of the country "approves" because they don't want to be labeled racist for disliking the first black president. fact is, the guy is a shit leader. the worse thing is, we'll be looking at him in a better light after trump/clinton, and i think i would honestly take barry for a third term instead of either of those two getting in the oval office.

[QUOTE=Pops;51021765]most of the country "approves" because they don't want to be labeled racist for disliking the first black president. fact is, the guy is a shit leader. the worse thing is, we'll be looking at him in a better light after trump/clinton, and i think i would honestly take barry for a third term instead of either of those two getting in the oval office.[/QUOTE] You honestly think the only reason a majority likes him is because he's black and their avoiding claims of "Racism"?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51021775]You honestly think the only reason a majority likes him is because he's black and their avoiding claims of "Racism"?[/QUOTE] the 2008 election was entirely determined by race and gender. obama edged out ahead since he was black, and that the 8 years of bush had started to annoy everyone and give a continued negative look on republicans. it's a cycle.

[QUOTE=Pops;51021765]most of the country "approves" because they don't want to be labeled racist for disliking the first black president. fact is, the guy is a shit leader. the worse thing is, we'll be looking at him in a better light after trump/clinton, and i think i would honestly take barry for a third term instead of either of those two getting in the oval office.[/QUOTE] People like him because they have jobs they didn't have 4 years ago, gas is cheap, and our foreign interventions are no longer in the news cycle. People say they approve in an anonymous poll because they are afraid to be labeled racist? What an awful post

[QUOTE=Pops;51021765]most of the country "approves" because they don't want to be labeled racist for disliking the first black president.[/QUOTE] :s:

[QUOTE=Pops;51021785]the 2008 election was entirely determined by race and gender. obama edged out ahead since he was black, and that the 8 years of bush had started to annoy everyone and give a continued negative look on republicans. it's a cycle.[/QUOTE] Republicans give a continued negative look on republicans. Bush was bad, the republicans of today are somehow so much worse.

[QUOTE=Pops;51021765]most of the country "approves" because they don't want to be labeled racist for disliking the first black president. fact is, the guy is a shit leader. the worse thing is, we'll be looking at him in a better light after trump/clinton, and i think i would honestly take barry for a third term instead of either of those two getting in the oval office.[/QUOTE] Obama did a pretty stand up job considering the state Bush left it in. Really, the only reason his critics think he's "weak" is because he constantly tried to be reasonable with GOP and always tried to compromise with them, he learned too late that GOP are just selfish pieces of shit who should be rightly ignored. God forbid you have a leader wanting to cooperate with the oppression, right?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51021787]People like him because they have jobs they didn't have 4 years ago[/quote] citation please, i have yet to see any job creation going on around here. [quote]gas is cheap[/quote] nothing to do with him [quote]and our foreign interventions are no longer in the news cycle[/quote] there is still plenty of afghanistan/iraq news

[QUOTE=Pops;51021785]the 2008 election was entirely determined by race and gender. obama edged out ahead since he was black, and that the 8 years of bush had started to annoy everyone and give a continued negative look on republicans. it's a cycle.[/QUOTE] Yeah okay, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[QUOTE=Pops;51021806]citation please, i have yet to see any job creation going on around here. nothing to do with him there is still plenty of afghanistan/iraq news[/QUOTE] So your area is lacking in jobs, therefore, no one country wide got jobs, therefore, things never got better because you didn't see it first hand you're the problem

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51021846]So your area is lacking in jobs, therefore, no one country wide got jobs, therefore, things never got better because you didn't see it first hand you're the problem[/QUOTE] it snowed today, therefore global warming is a lie

[QUOTE=Pops;51021806]citation please, i have yet to see any job creation going on around here.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/09/15/obamas-claim-that-businesses-are-in-the-longest-uninterrupted-stretch-of-job-creation/"]Source[/URL] Out of interest, where do you live? [QUOTE=Pops;51021806]nothing to do with him[/QUOTE] Neither does high gas rates but people tend to blame the president otherwise. [QUOTE=Pops;51021806]there is still plenty of afghanistan/iraq news[/QUOTE] A few hundred special forces teams in Iraq and Syria and a couple thousand advisors in Afghanistan but it isn't generally in the national consciousness.

[QUOTE=Pops;51021806]citation please, i have yet to see any job creation going on around here.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009"]American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009[/URL] One year after the stimulus, several independent macroeconomic firms, including Moody's and IHS Global Insight, estimated that the stimulus saved or created 1.6 to 1.8 million jobs and forecast a total impact of 2.5 million jobs saved by the time the stimulus is completed. The Congressional Budget Office considered these estimates conservative. In February 2014, the White House stated in a release that the stimulus measure saved or created an average of 1.6 million jobs a year between 2009 and 2012, thus averting having the recession descend into another Great Depression. Republicans, such as House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, criticized the report since, in their views, the Act cost too much for too little result.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Destroyox;51018093]Trump is a Russian puppet confirmed. [sp]Being real here though, he seems to have lots of strange ties with Russia[/sp][/QUOTE] It's a fairly low risk stance for him to take, as strange as that may sound.

[QUOTE=Pops;51021765]most of the country "approves" because they don't want to be labeled racist for disliking the first black president. [/QUOTE] But Obama has many times sunk into the negatives with regards to his approval rating, which wouldn't have happened if the populace was too scared of disproving out of your made up fear of being seen as a racist.

[QUOTE=Pops;51021785]the 2008 election was entirely determined by race and [b]gender.[/b][/QUOTE] Obama being a man really set him apart from every president we've ever had.

[QUOTE=Pops;51021765]most of the country "approves" because they don't want to be labeled racist for disliking the first black president. fact is, the guy is a shit leader. the worse thing is, we'll be looking at him in a better light after trump/clinton, and i think i would honestly take barry for a third term instead of either of those two getting in the oval office.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Pops;51021785]the 2008 election was entirely determined by race and gender. obama edged out ahead since he was black, and that the 8 years of bush had started to annoy everyone and give a continued negative look on republicans. it's a cycle.[/QUOTE] why is it that people who dislike obama are almost always ignorant as shit, at best? maliciously dumb at worst. but always conservatives that ignore reality to suit their own agenda. why did our country ever let any of you into the presidential position?

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51023097]why is it that people who dislike obama are almost always ignorant as shit, at best? maliciously dumb at worst. but always conservatives that ignore reality to suit their own agenda. why did our country ever let any of you into the presidential position?[/QUOTE] i am neither conservative or old enough to run for president (not that i would).

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51019630]obama isn't a divisive president, he's just presiding over a divided country[/QUOTE] He was unintentionally divisive. He spoke out in favor of Martin and Brown before the facts ever came out.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51021787]People like him because they have jobs they didn't have 4 years ago, gas is cheap, and our foreign interventions are no longer in the news cycle. People say they approve in an anonymous poll because they are afraid to be labeled racist? What an awful post[/QUOTE] The lack of foreign intervention after Bush's war led to utter chaos in the Middle East. Bush's neoconservative views brought us into extreme debt and massive casualties, but it was Obama's duty to finish what we started being that we had left the Middle East in utter shambles. It would also be dishonest to say that Obama being black hadn't contributed to his massive appeal to black voters. He broke a "glass ceiling" and was a likeable candidate because of that along with his demeanour. People had hoped that we would be able to bring a conclusion to any persisting racial tensions, yet he did the exact opposite.