ISPs to include porn filters as default in the UK by 2014
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[QUOTE=smurfy;41058355]Write to your MP, and ask them: Will they block the Hot Girls thread[/QUOTE]
Just rename it[I] "Hot grills thread"[/I]
They wont suspect a thing.
My parents seemed to be completely fine with porn and stuff when I was younger. They treated it like a normal thing that every kid/teenager discovers
God save the porn.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;41058004]there is a lot of hardcore shit out there that I think would ruin a person at the age of 12 or 13's life, I'd say 15 or 16 tbh[/QUOTE]
Hardcore gore at worst will make some kid have a nightmare for a night, but I don't see how anything can ruin their life. Definitely not porn.
I saw my first porn when I was about 9 or 10, it didn't scar me or ruin my life. It wasn't even on the internet, my dad accidentally left a tape in the VHS.
Already had to turn the filter off once.. best not have to do it again.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;41058110]what i don't get is that i'm pretty sure the suggested age for pornography and 'lads' mags' n stuff in this country is 18, but the age of consent is 16[/QUOTE]
because pornography projects unrealistic expectations of what sex is like and - surprise surprise - actually having sex doesn't?
lmfao what the fuck our government are fucking pathetic
let us decide whats right for ourselves you absolute cock-sucking ball-gaggling cunt shitfucks
when i move to uni they'd better turn the filter off
jesus fuck our government are retarded
"hey lets do this under the guise of protecting the children - meanwhile, we'll continue to fuck over the futures of our children through extortionately high university fees, and restructuring exams in order to purposefully increase failure rates"
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Cool a list of people who consume porn!
Is there no other source, can't see it on the bbc or anywhre else
Ohgodwhatnowhy...
There'll be some more teenage pregnancies coming our way, then.
[QUOTE=Vasey105;41058817]Ohgodwhatnowhy...
There'll be some more teenage pregnancies coming our way, then.[/QUOTE]
shit we should just arrange a massive fertility orgy in front of downing street
9 months later we give birth to a shit load of children, then proceed to claim child and housing benefits
see how they like it then
I am going to need to stock up on hard-drives and bbw porn.
There is an issue here; they're censoring internet content countrywide not because it breaks any law but because someone somewhere finds it obscene. That's a dangerous precedent to set, and I'm wondering why more people aren't bringing the ruckus about it
[QUOTE=Dirf;41057983]I think 12 or 13 is a better cutoff. Pornography should be allowed as soon as puberty starts.[/QUOTE]
why not before
what's the harm in seeing people fuck, at any age?
[editline]16th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Generic Monk;41058874]There is an issue here; they're censoring internet content countrywide not because it breaks any law but because someone somewhere finds it obscene. That's a dangerous precedent to set, and I'm wondering why more people aren't bringing the ruckus about it[/QUOTE]
a lot of people appear to agree (or are too scared/politically correct to say anything about it)
Great, can't wait to make that awkward phone call to the ISP to ask them to kindly remove the filter on a particularly horny evening and pay out £1 per minute talking to them whilst they put me on hold for 30 minutes to remove the filter then find out that I'm not even horny anymore.
The year the internet got boring.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;41058911]why not before
what's the harm in seeing people fuck, at any age?
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Because porn isn't just 'people having sex', porn is tailored to give people what they aren't getting at home. Gang bangs, cum shots, bukkake, anal, etc are not suitable for children and it's a bit weird that people would want children to see it.
It blows my mind how people on Facepunch get up in arms about a 12 year old playing COD but they'll happily let <12 year olds watch hard core porn. I can only imagine what parents you'd be.
I'm not saying its the governments job to censor it, but there's no way I'd let a pre-teen child on the internet without a filter.
[editline]16th June 2013[/editline]
Can I also say this isn't on any other news site, and just the other week all Claire Perry (the woman in the article) had said was that we [I]should[/I] do this, but it was unlikely to happen as it had been rejected before.
[QUOTE=matt.ant;41059577]Because porn isn't just 'people having sex', porn is tailored to give people what they aren't getting at home. Gang bangs, cum shots, bukkake, anal, etc are not suitable for children and it's a bit weird that people would want children to see it.[/quote]
Porn certainly doesn't make for good sex education. But the problem here is actual sex education: If society finally took its stick out of the ass about sexuality and it stopped being a taboo topic, strictly to be discussed by adults only, and instead sex would be seen like any other thing in life, children wouldn't get lasting unrealistic expectations of sex.
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It blows my mind how people on Facepunch get up in arms about a 12 year old playing COD but they'll happily let <12 year olds watch hard core porn. I can only imagine what parents you'd be.[/QUOTE]
While I personally don't see a problem with 12 year olds playing COD (if that makes you want to shoot people you have a problem, regardless of age), safe consensual sex is harmless. There's really no good reason it's treated as anything special.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;41059712]Porn certainly doesn't make for good sex education. But the problem here is actual sex education: If society finally took its stick out of the ass about sexuality and it stopped being a taboo topic, strictly to be discussed by adults only, and instead sex would be seen like any other thing in life, children wouldn't get lasting unrealistic expectations of sex.
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Sex education starts at age 5 here and goes up to age 15.
most kids spend at least the first year of their life doing nothing but sleeping and sucking on tits I don't get why people think just because this particular pair of tits is on a screen it's somehow scaring
[QUOTE=matt.ant;41059724]Sex education starts at age 5 here and goes up to age 15.[/QUOTE]
I'm not only talking about sex education in school, I'm talking about the way society handles sex.
It's still widely considered an intimate/private topic, one you don't just openly talk about like you might about food or the weather. Certainly not something you can tell kids about.
Not that they'd be very interested (before puberty, anyway) but it's considered inappropriate in a way other adult interests (say, the fine arts) aren't.
Virginmedia already blocked piratebay yet pirateproxy.net works ever since... Just shows how much they care or not know about this whole thing.
[QUOTE=Generic Monk;41058874]There is an issue here; they're censoring internet content countrywide not because it breaks any law but because someone somewhere finds it obscene. That's a dangerous precedent to set, and I'm wondering why more people aren't bringing the ruckus about it[/QUOTE]
they're not censoring anything, you just have to click a box and it goes away
[QUOTE=smurfy;41058288]I think a lot of FPers fear having to say "dad can u turn off the porn block pls"[/QUOTE]
Hopefully my dad will opt-out for the sole reason he absolutely burns with hate at the idea of automatic opt-in systems for [I]anything[/I].
How will this effect Uni internet? Seriously, Universities know that porn is a thing that students watch every 3 minutes.
[QUOTE=butre;41059777]they're not censoring anything, you just have to click a box and it goes away[/QUOTE]
It opens the possibility and lowers the inhibitions to censorship you can't opt out of.
Internet access should not be filtered by default.
The article also mentions that pornography is to be blocked on public WiFi connections, without a way to turn the filter off. That is censorship, whether you think it's a good thing or not.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;41059761]I'm not only talking about sex education in school, I'm talking about the way society handles sex.
It's still widely considered an intimate/private topic, one you don't just openly talk about like you might about food or the weather. Certainly not something you can tell kids about.
Not that they'd be very interested (before puberty, anyway) but it's considered inappropriate in a way other adult interests (say, the fine arts) aren't.[/QUOTE]
Sex is fine, but like I said, porn isn't just sex. Some people get off on scat porn, doesn't mean you need to openly discuss it and it certainly doesn't mean children should be viewing it. I don't think people should airing their fetishes, some things are meant to be kept quiet.
[editline]16th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;41059821]I
The article also mentions that pornography is to be blocked on public WiFi connections, without a way to turn the filter off. That is censorship, whether you think it's a good thing or not.[/QUOTE]
Wanking is banned on busses, is that censorship too?
[QUOTE=MadBomber;41059794]How will this effect Uni internet? Seriously, Universities know that porn is a thing that students watch every 3 minutes.[/QUOTE]
AFAIK most dorms aren't connected to the internet via standard home ISPs; rather, they are connected through the university's line which runs to research networks providing outbound internet access. So effectively, those dorms would be their own ISPs.
[editline]16th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=matt.ant;41059823]Sex is fine, but like I said, porn isn't just sex. Some people get off on scat porn, doesn't mean you need to openly discuss it and it certainly doesn't mean children should be viewing it. I don't think people should airing their fetishes, some things are meant to be kept quiet.[/quote]
Scat isn't the most appetizing subject for most people; that doesn't mean it should be considered embarassing and something that can't be openly discussed. There's nothing wrong with having a fetish, and it shouldn't be anything you have to hide from other people.
What's the problem with children watching scat porn? Most are gonna find themselves repulsed by it; those that are far enough into puberty to be interested in sex and start developing fetishes aren't gonna start shitting on random people, just as kids know damn well raping people is wrong. If they're into scat and get with someone who's into it too, then what's the problem?
[quote]Wanking is banned on busses, is that censorship too?[/QUOTE]
Public indecency is another subject. Opening a porn site on a public internet connection doesn't mean you're gonna bother anyone with it - that's your choice and if you do, you will face the consequences.
I'm not interested in watching porn in a public space, but I should damn well be allowed to, if I keep that private.
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