Valve pulls "Kill the Faggot" from Steam Greenlight - Polidicks

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;47657032]How can this shit get through even payment?[/QUOTE] Because "quality assurance" isn't part of Valve's vocabulary. Until people kick up enough of a fuss, If they can make profit off of selling broken offensive bullshit, they will.

This game is offensive as it gets. Not because of what's in it, but that something so terrible looking with zero effort or passion put into it and calls itself a game offends me. Lethal Enforcers for the Sega CD looked a million times better than this

[QUOTE=Skyward;47657367]Because "quality assurance" isn't part of Valve's vocabulary. Until people kick up enough of a fuss, If they can make profit off of selling broken offensive bullshit, they will.[/QUOTE] Give Valve some credit. They'd never sell this. Unfortunately, I can't say it's due to a lack of quality, but at least they'd refuse to sell this. The only money Valve received from this project is the $100 to submit it on Greenlight and that money went to charity, so at least it did some good.

[QUOTE=Korova;47657378]Give Valve some credit. They'd never sell this. Unfortunately, I can't say it's due to a lack of quality, but at least they'd refuse to sell this. The only money Valve received from this project is the $100 to submit it on Greenlight and that money went to charity, so at least it did some good.[/QUOTE] Oh no, I'm sorry I want to be clear, I AM GLAD THEY TOOK THIS DOWN, and I'm sure they did it for good reason. Anyone wish half a brain would take this down. I'm taking more on the basis of other broken greenlight games.

It's just a lame ass game, which obviously was a very try hard attempt to make something controversial. All they want is attention so people can learn about their dev studio and the actual game they want to make. Which is fucking dumb because everyone is gonna know them as being a bunch of stupid fucks who made a incredibly stupid game. Again, its just a game - move on and continue with your life. Ignore it, it isn't fucking hard.

Isn't the whole point of Greenlight that it is a democratic decision of what gets onto steam? If something was hated enough, wouldn't it make sense to follow through with the democratically agreed decision to remove the game make sense? Wasn't the lesson to be learned by Valve removing Hatred that it wasn't really in the spirit of Greenlight to remove it since the democratic discussion was in favor of letting the game do what it will but to not support it once its through Greenlight? This game had no support in its favor.

[QUOTE=shad0w440;47657258]The difference is that hatred hates everyone equally, and from what we've seen it dosent make light on the fact that the protagonist is a mass murderer. On top of that most people know that going on mass killing spree is wrong. This game just turns the act of killing a minority group into a joke complete with stereotypical dialogue when you shoot people as opposed to something more realistic like agonizing screams. On top of that there are still people today that actually think this is an ok thing to do irl.[/QUOTE] Most people also know that killing homosexuals and transgender people is wrong. Most homo- and transphobes are probably on board with that. So if this game was more serious with agonizing screams when you shoot these people it would be more okay? And who's to say the voice over saying slurs isn't the "protagonist", and as such the game itself isn't promoting violence against these minorities, just conveying what's going through this sick person's mind. Either you accept that this is a "serious" game or else you accept that it's a (bad) joke and should be treated as such (meaning, it's not seriously promoting violence against minorites). The point is that people want this gone because it's offensive - that's exactly what the guy in OP's video is saying. Hatred would obviously be very offensive to people who lost friends and family in Utøya, Hebdo, Sandy Hook, etc., so it should be banned as well if games about violence against minorities is banned.

It would be funny if this was an irony created to show how lacking is valve content review. Sadly, this is not the case.

Postal 2 did it first: [video=youtube;_qkfgPQ6cUA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qkfgPQ6cUA[/video]

idk, i still find it ironically funny not that i condemn the pulling though :v:

the difference between this and hatred is that hatred doesn't target any demographic in particular, it's not hate speech. just incredibly tasteless and violent this is hate speech. valve need to deal with it themselves. [editline]4th May 2015[/editline] 'but my democracy' doesn't really apply when greenlight is a privately owned entity. valve has domain on what they consider hate speech and thus gets taken down let the community decide whether or not a game is good; rather than whether or not they want games containing vile amounts of hate speech to be marketed on the front page of steam

Why do transsexuals explode into fireballs? They also seem to hover above the ground. Do transsexuals wield the power to manipulate gravity? Nolan should have done more research, Cooper could have simply stayed at home in Interstellar. Which would make it a rather short movie. Or maybe there are no transsexuals in the future anymore. Maybe thats why Earth was struck by a worldwide blight.

I'd say that while I disagree with the idea of pulling it from greenlight because we all know Valve isn't doing this for quality control reasons and instead publicity reasons, I do think they have every right to refuse to sell this game in the event it was voted onto steam. It, like Hatred, should have remained on greenlight until the end of the process. If it were accepted via greenlight THEN they could say fuck off, it isn't happening and if that reasoning is the moral high ground then so be it because that's their right to not carry a specific product as a vendor. And I personally would support them in that sense as this game falls under the hate speech category. If Valve REALLY wants to act like they care, they should just start actually running some quality control on the piles of broken shit they actively are selling and potentially going to be selling if they got through greenlight.

[QUOTE=Impact1986;47657523]Why do transsexuals explode into fireballs? They also seem to hover above the ground.[/QUOTE] This is a VERY good question, I think.

while this game is obviously a piece of shit and i'm glad it was taken down, i'm also happy that it managed to get on greenlight in the first place. maybe now Valve will see that they should have some form of quality control before games get put up on there?

[QUOTE=Korova;47657204][t]http://i.imgur.com/ucBMlsI.png[/t][/QUOTE] What a diverse band of faggot killers.

[QUOTE=TheWhiteFox1;47657570]while this game is obviously a piece of shit and i'm glad it was taken down, i'm also happy that it managed to get on greenlight in the first place. maybe now Valve will see that they should have some form of quality control before games get put up on there?[/QUOTE] Why should there be any sort of quality control for something that isn't even being sold yet? Isn't that the whole purpose of greenlight, filtering the piles of shit and picking out the good stuff before it actually goes on sale?

[QUOTE=Korova;47657204]No, apparently they have a physical studio in Los Angeles and they have a ton of voice actors working on their upcoming project (which Kill The Faggot is a part of, probably some arcade game in the game) What the fuck. [t]http://i.imgur.com/ucBMlsI.png[/t][/QUOTE] hmm, where have i seen that haircut before????

My freedom of speech!!!!!!

I don't have a problem with stupidly offensive games on Steam. I do have a problem with shitty flash games though.

[QUOTE=Impact1986;47657523]Why do transsexuals explode into fireballs? They also seem to hover above the ground. Do transsexuals wield the power to manipulate gravity?[/QUOTE] Tell no one, and you won't find your house mysteriously being levitated one day.

[QUOTE=pebkac;47657870]Why should there be any sort of quality control for something that isn't even being sold yet? Isn't that the whole purpose of greenlight, filtering the piles of shit and picking out the good stuff before it actually goes on sale?[/QUOTE] Yeah, but Valve does literally none of that and has let countless waves of absolute broken trash with outright stolen content onto the store.

[QUOTE=shad0w440;47657258]The difference is that hatred hates everyone equally,[/quote] that's not any better, that's just broadening the "hate speech" [quote]and from what we've seen it dosent make light on the fact that the protagonist is a mass murderer.[/quote] except that it's a game meant to be played for entertainment. other than turning mass murder into entertainment, it doesn't take it lightly. [quote]On top of that most people know that going on mass killing spree is wrong. This game just turns the act of killing a minority group into a joke complete with stereotypical dialogue when you shoot people as opposed to something more realistic like agonizing screams. On top of that there are still people today that actually think this is an ok thing to do irl.[/QUOTE] I can mostly agree with this because you're right, but I don't really believe that turning it into a joke is any better than playing it deadpan for entertainment purposes. Frankly the over the top silliness and low production value of this game is less threatening to me than the mostly serious, edgy nature of Hatred. I mean, there are people who legit think like the character of Hatred, and there are people who have acted on that and I'd gander there will be again in the future. Glorify that isn't good. This game isn't good either for the same reasons. I still don't see how Hatred gets a free pass from gamers when it practically embodies the stigma that gamers received throughout eh 90s and early 2000s following Columbine and the media frenzy about GTA. But whatever. If we as a community are fine with drawing arbitrary lines around who it's ok to indiscriminately kill for entertainment and for what reasons, that's fine, as long as it makes it clear that the deaths are realistic and painful as opposed to silly and stereotypical then it's accepted by the community.

hate speech is by definition some kind of gesture or conduct aimed at causing offense or inciting violence against a specific individual or group [editline]4th May 2015[/editline] me saying i hate everything isn't hate speech

Was the creator of this game one Nott M. Portent?

Guys, this was just the dev trying to make a point against Gabe Newell who in a recent AMA on reddit said they wouldnt censor shit anymore or something along those lines. The dev reported himself. The problem he went about making this statement in the worst possible way. Im not even bringing into account the games content. The fact he himself reported it and saying how bad it was would be reason enough for Valve to remove it. He should have let others just report it and already had a much better refute for this whole thing after it was taken off. Instead of being smart on youtube comments. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dhM8ibG.jpg[/IMG] Also Jim Sterling is a piece of garbage who made a video about this game, even though that played exactly right into the devs hand. Jim apparently just wanted some easy controversial money. Basically everything surrounding this is just done poorly. I would love for someone to really challenge the censorship of Valve and the line that you "shouldnt" cross for steam. But this was just such a hamfisted and lazy attempt it wont have any effect. I bet if someone made an actual decent game(as in wasnt just crude and offensive/tasteless newgrounds tier troll flash) about, lets say for an easy example, being an SS officer going around killing "inferiors" in Germany, but wasnt just some fucking joke, you would probably be making a much better statement on the lines of what can and cannot be on steam or in games.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;47658154]Guys, this was just the dev trying to make a point against Gabe Newell who in a recent AMA on reddit said they wouldnt censor shit anymore or something along those lines.[/QUOTE] Well obviously, but what he did was still morally fucked. Trying to prove an entirely unrelated point by being unbelievably horrible to a particular, already fucked over demographic? Bullshit. He cares so much about how a subsection of an online videogame store is regulated that he's willing to fake hate speech (which sounds the same as real hate speech to everyone but the speaker). It's just pathetic. Basically, if you dislike Valve's regulation, fine. Email them, start a petition, whatever. Just don't reel the gay and transgender community in and meaninglessly target them just to prove an unrelated point.

[QUOTE=Reagy;47657086]This is like southpark - gta level shit.[/QUOTE] please give a detailed explanation as to why???

[QUOTE=shozamar;47658328]Well obviously, but what he did was still morally fucked. Trying to prove an entirely unrelated point by being unbelievably horrible to a particular, already fucked over demographic? Bullshit. He cares so much about how a subsection of an online videogame store is regulated that he's willing to fake hate speech (which sounds the same as real hate speech to everyone but the speaker). It's just pathetic.[/QUOTE] honestly it was pretty clear it wasn't exactly serious

[QUOTE=elowin;47658343]honestly it was pretty clear it wasn't exactly serious[/QUOTE] That's no excuse. Courting controversy off the backs of genuine issues for your own ends is bullshit.