John Kasich Quietly Signs Measure Blocking Local Governments From Raising Minimum Wage - Polidicks

[QUOTE=El Periodista;51565604]This is exactly what North Carolina's HB2 did, aside from the infinitely more controversial and massively inflated bathroom ordinance. That survived an attempt at repeal today, further cementing itself into North Carolina law. With these laws being put in place on a state level, when do we see them in national congress? I know we have FADA going up after the inauguration, and I'm sure it's only going to get worse from here.[/QUOTE] Very soon. This downward spiral is MUCH faster than I thought it would be. Expect things to get SO so much worse.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51565585]Today's Republicans are authoritarian corporatists and kleptocrats. We should've flushed them out while we had the chance, but instead we gave the whole country to them.[/QUOTE] Americans will happily call Russia an oligarchy of the hands of companies like GAZPROM but hah. Glass houses

[QUOTE=Levelog;51565403]Pretty much. Taking all the 1%'s wealth and giving it to everyone below the FPL will do wonders for a few years but then it'll dry up. It's not sustainable since it's net worth. You'd be acting like Louisiana.[/QUOTE] Redistributing well-consolidated wealth would improve our economy by increasing the flow of capital and strengthening the purchasing power of more americans. That money isnt doing the country any good sitting in the offshore accounts of billionares never to see the light of day again. The wealth disparity in our country is a pretty big problem for our economy going forward.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51565643]Redistributing well-consolidated wealth would improve our economy by increasing the flow of capital and strengthening the purchasing power of more americans. That money isnt doing the country any good sitting in the offshore accounts of billionares never to see the light of day again. The wealth disparity in our country is a pretty big problem for our economy going forward.[/QUOTE] I don't disagree with anything you said.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51565643]Redistributing well-consolidated wealth would improve our economy by increasing the flow of capital and strengthening the purchasing power of more americans. That money isnt doing the country any good sitting in the offshore accounts of billionares never to see the light of day again. The wealth disparity in our country is a pretty big problem for our economy going forward.[/QUOTE] Anyone who hoards away billions of dollars that will never see the light of day should absolutely have that money taken from them. They will never use it. Something else to keep in mind is that it is in their nature to always want more. When "more" means accruing only money, however, then what is the point? It's just mindless selfishness. Really such money shouldn't even be considered legitimate since it is no longer in circulation in any way. Man, now I wonder how much money in the past has been hoarded away only to become valueless when the value drops to nothing...

[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;51566119]Anyone who hoards away billions of dollars that will never see the light of day should absolutely have that money taken from them. They will never use it. Something else to keep in mind is that it is in their nature to always want more. When "more" means accruing only money, however, then what is the point? It's just mindless selfishness. Really such money shouldn't even be considered legitimate since it is no longer in circulation in any way. Man, now I wonder how much money in the past has been hoarded away only to become valueless when the value drops to nothing...[/QUOTE] The problem is, this is all spherical cows stuff. The people with all that money are the same people paying the salaries of the people running the country. You can't just introduce legislation that takes that money from them, and redistributes it, without creating provisions that allow for some benefit in exchange for the cost, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a benefit that would convince anyone with sizable offshore holdings to not only bring them back into the country, but have them repossessed and redistributed. The good of society is not a good enough excuse, in this case, because those people are already doing well enough. Same reason the Right wants so deeply to cut medicare, medicaid, social security, etc. They're not using it, why should they pay for it? [I] I should mention here that the voting right and the elected right may well be considered two totally separate groups of people, as many of the laws the elected right propose often directly harm the interests of the voting right. [/I]

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51565599]Oh right, both sides are bad, so vote for the ones that'll eat your children to death. Christ al-fucking-mighty.[/QUOTE] I voted for Sanders, so you might wanna look for your outrage princess in another castle.

[quote]The law also prevents local municipalities from requiring businesses to provide benefits like paid leave to workers.[/quote] Oh. Cool. Fuck over the little guy, eh? Sounds like a solid plan...

Man, I love Republicans - supposedly hate "big gubmint" unless they're the ones in charge of it.

[QUOTE=Qaus;51564819]What the fuck, I thought Kasich was the best Republican candidate and now this?[/QUOTE] The best GOP candidate. Not much of an achievement since the bar is set so low that you can feel the core burning. I sincerely hope, that the GOP loses in 2018 and 2020 in a net loss. I wish they could've lost this election since they've gone on too long with their bullshit, but I suppose two to four years will be needed to see how much they fuck up further. I hope Trump and anyone of the GOP fucks up so badly these next four years that all the wool is burnt, so that their base can see the volatile heap.

This is kind of shitty of him. It would be a different story if he was blocking the whole state minimum wage from going to $15. A state wide maximum minimum wage is dumb and so is a state wide high minimum wage. Cost of living varies so much city to city it just doesn't work that way. For example in my county the median home price is $160000 but just one county over it is $60000 but we have the same minimum wage of $7.25. I live in a college town and because of that rental prices are ridiculous compared to neighboring towns.

I like how politicians now don't even have to try and hide the fact that they are in the pockets of big business, they can just fuck over poor people in favour of making more money and no one seems to care

[QUOTE=Craigewan;51567614]Man, I love Republicans - supposedly hate "big gubmint" unless they're the ones in charge of it.[/QUOTE] That's the thing. The Republicans have NEVER been about small government. They've always been about government non-interference in corporate activity. The Republican Voter believes that the party supports small government, but that's only because they don't consider moralizing on social issues to be big government. Somehow, the Republicans managed to take over the persona of the Libertarian/Independent movement without changing their tactics. Perhaps it's because they weren't able to really do anything other than gridlock for the past eight years, and that made them look more benign than they actually are.

The rich are gonna bleed our country dry. They're like leeches, pulling the government's strings and feeding off the lower classes and seeing just how far they can push it. I get a feeling like the reason they're so short sighted and don't seem to care about this blatantly unsustainable model is that they'll survive anyway. If America collapsed a ton of the big corporates could hop ship and move base to the next superpower and start leeching them instead. Папа Джон

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[QUOTE=Qaus;51564819]What the fuck, I thought Kasich was the best Republican candidate and now this? [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] At least $8.15/hr isn't TERRIBLE, just below what it should be.[/QUOTE] No, 8.15 is pretty fucking awful dude.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51564656]Woah there buddy, it's raising to $8.15. That's a very livable wage.[/QUOTE] If things are priced like they were in the 60's.

[QUOTE=El Periodista;51569266]That's the thing. The Republicans have NEVER been about small government. They've always been about government non-interference in corporate activity. The Republican Voter believes that the party supports small government, but that's only because they don't consider moralizing on social issues to be big government. Somehow, the Republicans managed to take over the persona of the Libertarian/Independent movement without changing their tactics. Perhaps it's because they weren't able to really do anything other than gridlock for the past eight years, and that made them look more benign than they actually are.[/QUOTE] I'd argue the left has zero place for libertarians since they depend on the government to legislate their vision of equality. The largely laissez-faire base of the Republican party is far more favorable to a guy like Ron Paul--if he ever ran Democratic he'd be laughed out of the race quicker than Jim Webb.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51570350]I'd argue the left has zero place for libertarians since they depend on the government to legislate their vision of equality. The largely laissez-faire base of the Republican party is far more favorable to a guy like Ron Paul--if he ever ran Democratic he'd be laughed out of the race quicker than Jim Webb.[/QUOTE] I didn't say they did. The Left is very much a big government party. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's vital in a lot of areas, like civil rights, which until the government started swinging the states weren't exactly rushing to adopt. I'd like to talk about how Ron Paul is not exactly a paragon of truth and virtue, but that's a discussion for another time.

[QUOTE=27X;51567038]I voted for Sanders, so you might wanna look for your outrage princess in another castle.[/QUOTE] In the general election?

lol, even the businesses here know 7.50 an hour is bullshit, mcdonalds advertises paying above the minimum now. i hope my state gets its shit together at some point, we never used to be this right wing but the legislature is pretty much completely republican now

[QUOTE=Judas;51564582][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-kasich-minimum-wage_us_585ae84be4b0de3a08f3fde5[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]claiming that a higher minimum wage would hurt the local economy.[/quote] FUCKIN' LOL

[QUOTE=Sableye;51571199]lol, even the businesses here know 7.50 an hour is bullshit, mcdonalds advertises paying above the minimum now. i hope my state gets its shit together at some point, we never used to be this right wing but the legislature is pretty much completely republican now[/QUOTE] My best friend just started a job as a dem legislative aide for the Ohio house and apparently it's a shitshow.

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;51564635]Keeping screwing over the poor and underprivileged, see where it gets you. $8.10 is nothing to live on, and the buying power of the dollar isn't going to increase any time soon. I hope people start to catch onto the fact that people like Kasich only give a shit about themselves and their rich buddies. Hope the next election does some good.[/QUOTE] ironic that you say this considering the proposals to raise the MW by ~100% would decrease the dollar's purchasing power [editline]23rd December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Sableye;51571199]lol, even the businesses here know 7.50 an hour is bullshit, mcdonalds advertises paying above the minimum now. i hope my state gets its shit together at some point, we never used to be this right wing but the legislature is pretty much completely republican now[/QUOTE] that's not necessarily politically motivated. the labor market is tightening. higher wages attract workers.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51564656]Woah there buddy, it's raising to $8.15. That's a very livable wage.[/QUOTE] well sarcadm asside, just from someone who lives in a pretty low cost area of ohio (100-200k houses but you can find'em 10k fixeruppers) 8.15 is hilariously bad, so much so that retailers here dont even follow that, most retail here is sitting at 9-10$/hour

[QUOTE=stupid10er;51573116]ironic that you say this considering the proposals to raise the MW by ~100% would decrease the dollar's purchasing power[/QUOTE] But it would still result in higher buying power for the people at MW. I don't see your point.

[QUOTE=Sableye;51573127]well sarcadm asside, just from someone who lives in a pretty low cost area of ohio (100-200k houses but you can find'em 10k fixeruppers) 8.15 is hilariously bad, so much so that retailers here dont even follow that, most retail here is sitting at 9-10$/hour[/QUOTE] I could survive on $8.15 with 2 roommates in Toledo in a 800sqft shitbox house in the ghetto but I can't think of anywhere else that'd be doable.