Police Shoot and Kill Fleeing Man Armed with Rocks - Caught on Video - Polidicks

Not to mention you have less of a surface to hit, so the chances of a miss and it ricocheting to hit something else is even greater.

[QUOTE=Zovox;47133363]Why didn't they just overrun him once he stopped? "Oh, he stopped! Fast, shoot the shit out of him!" They could've just shot him in the fucking leg when he was running instead.[/QUOTE] Because when you're chasing someone, and he stops to do something, and that something isn't surrendering, you don't know if he isn't pulling out a knife or a gun. Good luck tackling him if he does.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;47133377]Shooting in the leg can be just as lethal as shooting someone anywhere else in the body.[/QUOTE] Probably still less likely to die from a shot to the leg than a god damn execution

[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;47132371]I am starting to feel that American police are very unprofessional.[/QUOTE] Understatement of the century. [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] also holy fuck, there are actually people on this forum, a quite a lot of them too, that are defending this. I'm just... woah. WOAH.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;47133377]Shooting in the leg can be just as lethal as shooting someone anywhere else in the body.[/QUOTE] Exactly. But why shoot him 17 times then?

[QUOTE=DMGaina;47133616]Exactly. But why shoot him 17 times then?[/QUOTE] Because if he didn't want to get shot 17 times he should just do everything the officers order him to, even though he could be mentally ill and is posing no lethal threat apologist logic [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly Sil;47133420]Because when you're chasing someone, and he stops to do something, and that something isn't surrendering, you don't know if he isn't pulling out a knife or a gun. Good luck tackling him if he does.[/QUOTE] dude the guy was like 5 feet away. you can close that distance in under a second.

[QUOTE=Zovox;47133363]Why didn't they just overrun him once he stopped? "Oh, he stopped! Fast, shoot the shit out of him!" [B]They could've just shot him in the[/B] fucking [B]leg[/B] when he was running instead.[/QUOTE] there had to be one of these

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;47133420]Because when you're chasing someone, and he stops to do something, and that something isn't surrendering, you don't know if he isn't pulling out a knife or a gun. Good luck tackling him if he does.[/QUOTE] Good to know that if I'm a cop I can shoot virtually anyone I want and apologists online will defend me with vapid justifications like "if a rock that weighs 31.22 grams hits you exactly in your temple at 73.125 mph at an acute angle it'll have a 3/5,00 chance of killing you instantly" or "he could have had a GUN! he had no choice!" [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] What if the ROCK had a GUN in it? You never know with these gosh darn [I]THUGS[/I] nowadays!!

[QUOTE=Kasper9384;47133654]Because if he didn't want to get shot 17 times he should just do everything the officers order him to, even though he could be mentally ill and is posing no lethal threat apologist logic[/QUOTE] Read the thread he was has a history of violence against cops and is a meth user. You people are acting like every guy who attacks police is mentally ill and that every thief is stealing because he needs money for his a sick mother and you talk about apologetics. [QUOTE=Kasper9384;47133654]dude the guy was like 5 feet away. you can close that distance in under a second.[/QUOTE] There have been occurrences of policemen getting shot exactly like that. I like how I'm the one talking about ninja assassin skills yet you think you can run up to someone and tackle him before he has time to take something out of his pocket. [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=milkandcooki;47133879]Good to know that if I'm a cop I can shoot virtually anyone I want and apologists online will defend me with vapid justifications like "if a rock that weighs 31.22 grams hits you exactly in your temple at 73.125 mph at an acute angle it'll have a 3/5,00 chance of killing you instantly" or "he could have had a GUN! he had no choice!" [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] What if the ROCK had a GUN in it? You never know with these gosh darn [I]THUGS[/I] nowadays!![/QUOTE] What if your post had anything to do with what I said?

i don't think that this is a case of the cops going "hurdur lets murder this spic" and more that general policy for handling these situations is shit we, as a country, need to review these policies and perhaps afford greater LTL capabilities to our police

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;47134104]Read the thread he was has a history of violence against cops and is a meth user. You people are acting like every guy who attacks police is mentally ill and that every thief is stealing because he needs money for his a sick mother and you talk about apologetics. There have been occurrences of policemen getting shot exactly like that. I like how I'm the one talking about ninja assassin skills yet you think you can run up to someone and tackle him before he has time to take something out of his pocket. [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] What if your post had anything to do with what I said?[/QUOTE] implying drug addiction doesn't stem from mental illness You just ADMITTED he was mentally ill, had 3 men bigger than he was closing on him within 5 feet, he was unarmed, and you're still defending him getting shot several times. Too bad you don't live here so you could be in danger from trigger happy cops as well.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;47133238]You're saying that you can't cause serious head injury with a fist-sized rock from 3 meters. Do you really believe that? Send me a vid where your friend throws a fist-sized rock at your head from 3 meters and I will admit I was wrong. As to the chance of getting serious head injury [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] Nobody ever said that and it never happened.[/QUOTE] Yes the article say it happened.

[QUOTE=Monkey san;47132038]Fuck me you Americans are getting worse by the day.[/QUOTE] 1 person =/= all americans.

Yeah, I'm having a tough time not siding with the cops. Looked kinda strange at first, but when you're chasing a guy who has obvious intent to hurt/kill you and isn't complying with commands and he stops and thrusts his arms from his waistband towards you with something in his hand that could be anything, then yeah, I don't really see a problem with putting him down. They tried less-lethal weapons and it didn't work, when the guy started to go at them with a weapon and looked like he just pulled something out of his pants I think it was reasonable to do what they did. Could they have probably tackled the guy and brought him in that way? Probably. But people have died trying to do the same with less dangerous suspects, someone pulls a knife, lands the rock the right way against their head, etc. And then you have a dead cop and a junkie sitting in prison. It's not the best way for this to turn out, but I'd rather this than the other. [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Zovox;47133363]Why didn't they just overrun him once he stopped? "Oh, he stopped! Fast, shoot the shit out of him!" They could've just shot him in the fucking leg when he was running instead.[/QUOTE] I don't know why posts like these aren't banned for memeshit yet. I wish yawmwen was still here. At least his shitposts were funny.

[QUOTE=Marzipas;47132409]you are a fucking psycho [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - OvB))[/highlight][/QUOTE] -snip- dont know the full story.

[QUOTE=Fort83;47134296]It's advocating using lethal force on someone who attacked police officers. Don't leave that part out.[/QUOTE] the nature of an attack is relevant also

haha wow this is happening every few days and you deluded fucks still stand with the cops I literally cannot believe some of your mentalities

[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47134310]the nature of an attack is relevant also[/QUOTE] As is the fact that he is a fleeing felon with a history of drug use and violence. Cops can shoot you, even if you are completely unarmed, while fleeing if they can substantiate the belief that if the felon escapes, they are a legitimate threat to the lives and safety of the community. "Stop or I'll shoot" is a serious command. I wasn't there. I don't know the entirety of the situation. All I see is that the situation is clearly more involved than cops just randomly shooting some guy with rocks in his hand.

[QUOTE=joe588;47134315]haha wow this is happening every few days and you deluded fucks still stand with the cops I literally cannot believe some of your mentalities[/QUOTE] some people say there are just a few bad apples, and while I agree, this is a job where a few bad apples just isn't acceptable

[QUOTE=Complifused;47132749]American police are pretty crap[/QUOTE] hey I'm sure the cop who went out of his way to help me find my 6 year old cousin would really appreciate that sweeping generalization from someone who isn't even from this country. but hey, who am I to say that? it's not like i'm American or anything.

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;47132532]don't cut yourselves on that edge[/QUOTE] This really needs to be considered a meme reply.

[QUOTE=Killuah;47134201]Yes the article say it happened.[/QUOTE] Which article talks about cops shooting a person for throwing rocks at their car, because I'm not seeing it? The only one I see is the one where a man gets shot for attacking police officers. Tell me. Do you actually think that you are getting your point across by manipulating what happened time and time again or do you actually believe that they shot him for throwing rocks at their car and not because he was about to attack them? [editline]14th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Kasper9384;47134144]implying drug addiction doesn't stem from mental illness You just ADMITTED he was mentally ill, had 3 men bigger than he was closing on him within 5 feet, he was unarmed, and you're still defending him getting shot several times. Too bad you don't live here so you could be in danger from trigger happy cops as well.[/QUOTE] I don't usually try to attack cops who are pointing their guns at me so maybe I wouldn't be shot after all.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;47135147]Which article talks about cops shooting a person for throwing rocks at their car, because I'm not seeing it? The only one I see is the one where a man gets shot for attacking police officers. Tell me. Do you actually think that you are getting your point across by manipulating what happened time and time again or do you actually believe that they shot him for throwing rocks at their car and not because he was about to attack them?[/QUOTE] Why do you have to be so stand-offish? I have mentioned this before in a different thread, but no one has to be so uptight.

How "in the wrong" do cops have to be before the victim blaming stops?

[QUOTE=wauterboi;47135158]Why do you have to be so stand-offish? I have mentioned this before in a different thread, but no one has to be so uptight.[/QUOTE] It's fucking hilarious that people want to make arguments by misrepresenting what happed or what someone said and if I call them out on I'm the one in the wrong. Look what these guys are saying "he was shoot for throwing a rock at a car", "he was shot for holding a rock", etc, etc. They are acting like something completely different happened.

[QUOTE=Megadave;47135275]How "in the wrong" do cops have to be before the victim blaming stops?[/QUOTE] I think some people need to grow up and try not throwing rocks at cops or try assaulting the police in any fashion, but maybe that's just me. A man assaulting anyone is hardly a victim by the way but rather the aggressor.

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;47135379]I think some people need to grow up and try not throwing rocks at cops or try assaulting the police in any fashion, but maybe that's just me. A man assaulting anyone is hardly a victim by the way but rather the aggressor.[/QUOTE] They are if they're killed

[QUOTE=RichyZ;47135401]but he was throwing rocks rocks maybe if it was a dude running around with a knife or a gun sure ok shoot him i guess maybe depending on the situation but the dude was just throwing rocks, theres not much of a risk if everyone dogpiles on him[/QUOTE] alright first im not justifying the cops here, like gunfox said i wasnt there and i dont like to pass judgement on things i dont know about. but lets think this scenario out. what could happen if they all attempted to tackle him? well, first of all, we know that the guy has attempted to disarm police in the past if gunfox's source is to be trusted. what if, in the dogpile, he managed to take one of the guns from the holsters and began firing? what if four men tackling him at once is enough to crack his skull on the pavement during the fall? not saying that they shouldve shot the man a dozen times but im not so sure these arm chair theories we have the luxury of making up when hindsight is always 20/20 are any better. maybe when we know more things we can begin thinking about what could or could not have been done differently and what that should be done about this going forward.

I think there's a middle ground between "a rock to the head is lethal" and "a rock to the head is a cut"; a pointy object hitting your head at high speed just, in general, isn't a good thing. Sure, you probably won't die, but that doesn't mean you can't end up with a more severe injury than a cut. For one, your eyes happen to be in your head, and they take a lot less force to damage than your skull. But, reading through this thread there seems to be two general trains of thought: - The police should put themselves at more risk to subdue the person in a physical grapple, - Or the police should deal with the threat in the safest manner possible (shooting him). I'm personally in the second boat; beyond the fact the video in the OP started long after the incident began (the police didn't just jump to shooting), the person clearly wanted to die (or was just insane) when he spun in a motion to throw something after police had just shot at him before hand. Not to mention he was walking/running away before hand, so the police officers probably couldn't tell what, if anything, he was trying to throw at them. The best outcome is obviously for everyone involved to come out of the situation unharmed, but ultimately I would rather the rock thrower with a history of these actions be dead and the police officers come out of it unhurt, then the police officers ending up being injured, potentially seriously, to physically subdue the person.

[QUOTE=Fort83;47135610]Someone attacking police officers is hardly a victim.[/QUOTE] [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=SIRIUS;47135387]They are if they're killed[/QUOTE] [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] oooo 2200