EVERYTHING IS RIGGED ; Illuminati existence confirmed - Polidicks

Of what exactly? :suicide: I am kind of lost, multi-tasking is shit

[QUOTE=zombojoe;40429727]No thats ridiculous of course there are different groups, its pretty silly to believe that the rich ruling class is unified. As far proper organizations go I don't believe there are that many, its more than probable that most of these conspiracies aren't formed in a formal organization. Just a bunch of people with similar interests conspiring with each other.[/QUOTE] Most conspiracies are short-term and not very large. Things like 3 people making a plan to murder their neighbour are more plausible than the worlds banks doing the same things for centuries (mainly because conspiracies of that calibre are unsustainable and/or unstable). [editline]26th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Laserbeams;40429728]Even though this may be true, the worst thing is that nobody is screaming for a revolution. People don't want to fight for their freedom because they're free enough to not give a fuck[/QUOTE] It's great. We live in an increasingly freer and richer world. A lot of hurdles on the road, but it's getting better.

If you ask me its actually getting worse.

[QUOTE=zombojoe;40429780]If you ask me its actually getting worse.[/QUOTE] In what way? Violence up? More wars? Higher poverty rates? Higher prices? Less food? More disease? Lower literacy?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40429768]Most conspiracies are short-term and not very large. Things like 3 people making a plan to murder their neighbour are more plausible than [B]the worlds banks doing the same things for centuries[/B] (mainly because conspiracies of that calibre are unsustainable and/or unstable). [editline]26th April 2013[/editline] It's great. We live in an increasingly freer and richer world. A lot of hurdles on the road, but it's getting better.[/QUOTE] no one is saying this

[QUOTE=johnsten;40429796]no one is saying this[/QUOTE] so whats your "theory" then?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40429793]In what way? Violence up? More wars? Higher poverty rates? Higher prices? Less food? More disease? Lower literacy?[/QUOTE] Of course there's less violence and wars, but I can't help but feel like the world is becoming more and more like a dystopian sci-fi novel

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;40429814]Of course there's less violence and wars, but I can't help but feel like the world is becoming more and more like a dystopian sci-fi novel[/QUOTE] Why? What's happening to make you come to this conclusion?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40429810]so whats your "theory" then?[/QUOTE] thank you for conveying more pretension and condescension in two quotation marks than i will ever be able to achieve in my life time, anyways look around you, look at all the rich politicians, look at lobbying groups, look at corporations. i'm not arguing there's a select group of Evil jews at the top of the pyramid, everything has literally already been said, read the OP.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40429829]Why? What's happening to make you come to this conclusion?[/QUOTE] Well, first of all, modern democracy is a massive joke. Especially in the US with your bullshit two party system. You get to choose between a right-wing corporate sellout and a slightly less right-wing corporate sellout. Don't get me started on democracy here, in countries like Ukraine, because we all know how well that works out. Secondly, freedom of speech does not exist de facto, only on paper. Of course a lot of stuff is still allowed, but say something offensive or even controversial and you are in trouble, which is not what should be happening in a country with free speech. And finally the obliteration of the middle class almost entirely. We all know about the growing wage gap, about the one percent controlling a third of wealth, so this one pretty much speaks for itself. A "dystopian sci-fi novel" is still an exaggeration, but you get my point

[QUOTE=johnsten;40429904]thank you for conveying more pretension and condescension in two quotation marks than i will ever be able to achieve in my life time, anyways look around you, look at all the rich politicians, look at lobbying groups, look at corporations.[/QUOTE] Yes, they all have some kind of power and influence. They try to get the state to favour their interests. We also get lobbying groups for feminists and animal rights, environmentalists and various political parties. We also have corporations that do many different things, with some trying to skimp on regulations by dumping pollutants into a river (although that's gradually being clamped down on). What's so bad?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40429919]Yes, they all have some kind of power and influence. They try to get the state to favour their interests. We also get lobbying groups for feminists and animal rights, environmentalists and various political parties. [I]We also have corporations that do many different things, with some trying to skimp on regulations by dumping pollutants into a river (although that's gradually being clamped down on).[/I] What's so bad?[/QUOTE] this is hilariously understated wow

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;40429911]Well, first of all, modern democracy is a massive joke. Especially in the US with your bullshit two party system. You get to choose between a right-wing corporate sellout and a slightly less right-wing corporate sellout.[/quote] that's a consequence of having a first past the post system and given too much power to rural areas [quote]Don't get me started on democracy here, in countries like Ukraine, because we all know how well that works out.[/quote] Well, it's better than under old Ivan ain't it? [quote]Secondly, freedom of speech does not exist de facto, only on paper. Of course a lot of stuff is still allowed, but say something offensive or even controversial and you are in trouble, which is not what should be happening in a country with free speech.[/quote] Iunno mate, Alex Jones and Johnsten say the craziest shit and they aren't dead yet. [quote]And finally the obliteration of the middle class almost entirely. We all know about the growing wage gap, about the one percent controlling a third of wealth, so this one pretty much speaks for itself.[/QUOTE] Now please show me the change in real wages and the change in real prices of all goods. For instance, the CPI-U (Make sure it's U, that stands for urban consumers) is one such thing tracking prices. [editline]26th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=johnsten;40429931]this is hilariously understated wow[/QUOTE] What? So do people still work for 16 hours a day down the coal mines whilst the Thames is brown and smells strongly of shit?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40429941] Iunno mate, Alex Jones and Johnsten say the craziest shit and they aren't dead yet. [/QUOTE] name one thing i've said that is out of a realm of possibility why waste time on killing people when you can just call them a CONSPIRACY THEORIST and bam they're wackos and out of a job?

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;40429911]Well, first of all, modern democracy is a massive joke. Especially in the US with your bullshit two party system. You get to choose between a right-wing corporate sellout and a slightly less right-wing corporate sellout. Don't get me started on democracy here, in countries like Ukraine, because we all know how well that works out. Secondly, freedom of speech does not exist de facto, only on paper. Of course a lot of stuff is still allowed, but say something offensive or even controversial and you are in trouble, which is not what should be happening in a country with free speech. And finally the obliteration of the middle class almost entirely. We all know about the growing wage gap, about the one percent controlling a third of wealth, so this one pretty much speaks for itself. A "dystopian sci-fi novel" is still an exaggeration, but you get my point[/QUOTE] you can go live in the past if you want but dont drag the rest of us with you for women, for sexual minorities, and for people suffering from mental disorders the world has gotten far better and understanding of their plight

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;40429728]Even though this may be true, the worst thing is that nobody is screaming for a revolution. People don't want to fight for their freedom because they're free enough to not give a fuck[/QUOTE] Definitions of 'freedom' differ wildly.

plenty of people are screaming for a revolution and freedom some of them have joined terrorist groups

I am stunned at how terrible this whole fixed interest system is, what's more terrible is how it apparently could be the same way in other markets. Some people just can't get enough dosh.

[QUOTE=johnsten;40429965]name one thing i've said that is out of a realm of possibility why waste time on killing people when you can just call them a CONSPIRACY THEORIST and bam they're wackos and out of a job?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=johnsten;40429580]going through 32 levels of freemasonry? all with unique rites?[/quote] [QUOTE=johnsten;40429556]not really, but [b]they[/b] really love perpetuating it, or using it as a tool to make rational, legitimate critical thinking against the government seem ridiculous[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=johnsten;40428968]how do you think [b]they[/b] get away with all of this by keeping the intellectual veins of society [I]clogged[/I] with all that shit, including a bunch of other stuff.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=johnsten;40428614]this is a serious question is there anyone fucking stupid enough to not believe that the [b]higher ups[/b] manipulate everything? let alone [b]be a debunker and skeptic[/b][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=johnsten;40428479]haha dude nice cheeky video game joke on an article stating that [b]fucking banks rule the world[/b] and manipulate the global economy[/QUOTE] lmao i'm calling you a wacko because you are using shitty reasoning and couldn't be arsed to read any history/politics/economics/science/philosophy books beyond 2nd grade

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40429941] What? So do people still work for 16 hours a day down the coal mines whilst the Thames is brown and smells strongly of shit?[/QUOTE] just because there's no little corruption outside of your little window overlooking britain doesn't mean shit. [url]http://www.cyberwarnews.info/reports/a-look-into-the-britam-defence-data-leak-files/[/url] [quote]Phil We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion? Kind regards David[/quote] [editline]26th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;40430029]lmao i'm calling you a wacko because you are using shitty reasoning and couldn't be arsed to read any history/politics/economics/science/philosophy books beyond 2nd grade[/QUOTE] alright so saying "higher ups" and "they" make me a crazy wacko? okay

[QUOTE=johnsten;40430110]just because there's no little corruption outside of your little window overlooking britain doesn't mean shit. [url]http://www.cyberwarnews.info/reports/a-look-into-the-britam-defence-data-leak-files/[/url][/quote] nice source :) [quote]alright so saying "higher ups" and "they" make me a crazy wacko? ok[/QUOTE] it kinda does because you are saying "THEM" "THEY" as though they are the source of all evil also: [quote] let alone be a debunker and skeptic[/quote] So it's bad to be skeptical? And where the fuck do you get the idea that masons have 32 levels?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40430158]nice source :) it kinda does because you are saying "THEM" "THEY" as though they are the source of all evil also: So it's bad to be skeptical? And where the fuck do you get the idea that masons have 32 levels?[/QUOTE] [url]http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/masonic_degrees.html[/url] also [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1242490[/url]

[QUOTE=johnsten;40430171][url]http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/masonic_degrees.html[/url][/quote] Except masons have 3 degrees: Entered Apprentice (1st degree) Fellowcraft (2nd degree) Master Mason (3rd degree) gg wp Masons have 6 million members. How the fuck can you have 32 (or 33 in some sources) of ranks?

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;40429911]Secondly, freedom of speech does not exist de facto, only on paper. Of course a lot of stuff is still allowed, but say something offensive or even controversial and you are in trouble, which is not what should be happening in a country with free speech.[/QUOTE] in a country with free speech, you get told off for being dumb. in a country without free speech, you get stoned for being dumb. oh yeah, spot the fricking difference right here [editline]26th April[/editline] but oh no you can't say bullshit offensive stuff anymore because other people aren't willing to let you tell them they're retarded!! truly these are the twilight years of mankind

You people do realize that all the companies plans are now ruined because not secret anymore,they will need another way to fuck people over now

If there is a group of people that are trying to control the world, they are doing a real bad job it. [editline]26th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=johnsten;40430171][url]http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/masonic_degrees.html[/url] also [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1242490[/url][/QUOTE] Hey man, there is no free masons or Illuminati, nor bankers controling the world. Man this guy is crazy, I bet he believes in aliens that took over the government too.

unatco?

Told you all.

[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;40430406]Told you all.[/QUOTE] yes it turned out that powerful banks have lots of power that must mean the FBI did Boston Bombings and WTC

This doesn't surprise me that it happens, to be honest, just rather startled at the sheer scale and lack of basic regulation. The phrase "conflict of interest" exploded out of my computer monitor and levelled the house.