'Everybody Draw Mohammed Day' Unleashes Facebook Fracas
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[QUOTE=Savaril;22058581]Freedom of Speech is there so that we can say offensive or controversial things as we wish, without being worried about being thrown in prison, or being threatened by extremists. This isn't even an attack on Islam itself, it's more of an exercise in free speech.
If you're one of those morons that has a mindset like "I BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH EXCEPT FOR WHEN IT OFFENDS SOMEONE" you're completely missing the point of free speech.
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No matter how foul, crude, or offensive the things we say are, killing somebody in response will [B]never[/B] be justified.[/QUOTE]
Please take your bullshit elsewhere, I support the freedom of speech, but as many philosophers have said, "not to harm others".
I personally don't care about this day or when someone draw Mohammad. But it's sad that you guys are provocating a lot of people in the name of freedom of speech. It was meant to make the society a better place, but looks like many of you, still young enough to realize what it really means to have the freedom to speak...
FYI, I did not say "offend", but what will you achieve with drawing this? Do not say to protect the freedom of speech, because that is utter bullshit. Most of you ar ejust jumping the bandwagon, without meaning or reason. I will stop posting in this thread, because this forum do have some ignorant individuals.
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;22058019]The amount of angst-ridden atheists in this thread is ridiculous.[/quote]
Ridiculously low.
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;22058019]
"Hey man fcuk your religion your not allowed to believe that!!!"[/quote]
Uhhh what
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;22058019]"I got a good idea lets offend all Muslims and garner support for the tiny extremist element who are the ones actually issuing the death threats"[/QUOTE]
This does the opposite of that
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By getting EVERYONE depicting Mohammad, the extremists become an even smaller minority.
Which is good as extremists are always fucking crazy.
[QUOTE=thebadboy91;22058657]Please take your bullshit elsewhere, I support the freedom of speech, but as many philosophers have said, "not to harm others".
I personally don't care about this day or when someone draw Mohammad. But it's sad that you guys are provocating a lot of people in the name of freedom of speech. It was meant to make the society a better place, but looks like many of you, still young enough to realize what it really means to have the freedom to speak...
FYI, I did not say "offend", but what will you achieve with drawing this? Do not say to protect the freedom of speech, because that is utter bullshit. Most of you ar ejust jumping the bandwagon, without meaning or reason. I will stop posting in this thread, because this forum do have some ignorant individuals.[/QUOTE]
You're a fucking idiot who completely misses the point of freedom of speech.
[QUOTE=Xain777;22054969][IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5293778/mohamed%20part%20dix.jpg[/IMG]
This is my Mohammed please be gentle when raping him. I only rented him you see and I want my deposit back.[/QUOTE]
Dear lord look at the time, it's 3 o'cock
[QUOTE=Savaril;22058581]Freedom of Speech is there so that we can say offensive or controversial things as we wish, without being worried about being thrown in prison, or being threatened by extremists. This isn't even an attack on Islam itself, it's more of an exercise in free speech.
If you're one of those morons that has a mindset like "I BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH EXCEPT FOR WHEN IT OFFENDS SOMEONE" you're completely missing the point of free speech.
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Actually in Canada and the U.S "I BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH EXCEPT FOR WHEN IT OFFENDS SOMEONE" [B]is[/B] actually the law.
[QUOTE=BCell;22058291]No what I am saying MUSLIMS need to ignore trolls and jokes about Prophet Muhammad. These jokes cannot kill you. They are just bad jokes.
I as a Muslim would rather say your depiction of Muhammad is utterly inaccurate so therefore I am ignoring it.
Even you claim it's accurate, I will still ignore it. I know what is right and wrong. Go make fun of a religion you hate. What ever. Making jokes can't kill me or you. Go on and make fun of someone. In the end, you will gain nothing from insulting religious figures.
The only time we should take action if a person attempts to murder someone because of his/hers religion. If a person tries to kill someone because he hate that person's religion, then that person should be stop. (Hitler is an example of a man who murder Jews because he hates their religion)
We need to have an IRON WILL as in immune to insults and parodies. Muslims need to learn to ignore these jokes about our prophet
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When you no longer cared about bad jokes, you've won[/QUOTE]
Want accurate depiction of Mohammad? Here it it:
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Medieval_Persian_manuscript_Muhammad_leads_Abraham_Moses_Jesus.jpg[/IMG]
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HAHA, look what i found:
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Miraj_by_Sultan_Muhammad.jpg[/IMG]
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These are old Persian miniatures in case you were wondering^
As you can see depiction of Mohammad wasn't forbidden in the past. I guess it just comes down to tradition and shit.
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And yes, muslims need to stop getting butthurt over stuff thats not even in their religion, explicitly.
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I was right, they should all stop getting butt-hurt:
[QUOTE]Other Muslims have taken a more relaxed view. Most Shi'a scholars accept respectful depictions and use illustrations of Muhammad in books and architectural decoration, as have Sunnis at various points in the past. However, many Muslims who take a stricter view of the supplemental traditions, will sometimes challenge any depiction of Muhammad, including those created and published by non-Muslims.[/QUOTE]
I love how every single one of the butthurt Muslims use the word ignorant or infidel in their posts.
They've completely reamed the meaning of the words. I just laugh and roll my eyes every time I hear them, even in a non-muslim context.
The definition of ignorant is uttering the word in context of another persons opinion or view.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22058736]
By getting EVERYONE depicting Mohammad, the extremists become an even smaller minority.[/QUOTE]
We should have a go to your local christian church and piss against the walls day. Then the amount of angry and conservative christians becomes smaller and then we can have stemcell research, abortions, euthanasia and more without some christian bitching about it.
[QUOTE=Hamsterman;22059461]We should have a go to your local christian church and piss against the walls day. Then the amount of angry and conservative christians becomes smaller and then we can have stemcell research, abortions, euthanasia and more without some christian bitching about it.[/QUOTE]
Ah, the classic case of what most extremists have. The inability to distinguish an verbal act from a non-verbal act. "If he can say so and so, then I should be able to do such and such". Extremists need to stop taking an eye for a tooth.
When in a verbal argument, the person acting out in hostility and vulgarity is [B]always[/B] the greater of the two infidels (like I said, I hate the usage of that word). The people shouting their opinions the loudest, are usually the biggest ill-informed assholes.
I'm an understanding and tolerant man when it comes to religion. But Muslims are sure trying their hardest to have everyone hate them. You know what religion I love? Zen Buddhists. Have you ever heard of a Buddhist making death threats? I rest my case.
When will the angry hatred filled ones grow up and accept that they deserve no more special treatment than any other religion or group of likeminded people?
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;22059629]When will the angry hatred filled ones grow up and accept that they deserve no more special treatment than any other religion or group of likeminded people?[/QUOTE]
NO U! I'M SPECIAL! RECOGNIZE ME! PRAISE ALLAH DEATH TO ALL INFIDELS.
/extremest Muslim interpretation
Yes my brother. Alas, if only the world could be that way.
Hi guys, I'm a former Muslim.
I left after I discovered free speech, freedom of mind and bacon.
I am really with this movement.
lol I keep getting angry messages from muslim people who are incapable of rational discussion and instead resort to expletives.
Says a lot, really.
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THIS! This is my new desktop background.[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;22060227]You're an idiot.[/QUOTE]
I think he's trying to prove a point. Since, sure, it's good to stick up to these jerks, but the sideeffect is that most people confuse them with real muslims.
Drawing Mohammed is kinda like giving someone the finger, only, regular muslims are Toledo, and the extremists are Las Angeles.
If you flip off someone in Toledo, they will just look pissed.
If you flip off someone in Las Angeles, they will take a gun out of their glove compartment, and shoot you.
See the difference?
I bet if Mohammed actually existed in reality he wouldn't give a fuck how someone wants to draw him.
Spot the offensive picture!
[IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/2vvjitu.png[/IMG]
or
[IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/noj62d.png[/IMG]
Bonus points if you show him saving orphans and they still get offended.
I like (am fucking disgusted) how some people opened a protest group.
It is no ones place to be butthurt on another persons behalf when it is not affecting you and isn't targetting you. what a band of douches!
people should learn to mind their own bussiness!
I have a dumb theory that this could have been the work of Muslim Terrorist who uses this to incite more violence among Muslims. It could be a theory. Perhaps Al-Qaeda might use this ruse to get muslims angry over this and turn facebook into a scapegoat and the non-muslims gets the blame. And the person who created this was using a stolen identity.
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In short, look at Modern Warfare 2 storyline.
[sp]General Shepard of the US army incite a war between US and Russia. By planting Allen amongst the terrorist and get the american blamed for the attack. Spoiler tagged In case of people who haven't play Modern Warfare 2[/sp]
lol, Facebook shut the page down...
I think the main reason was the bandwagoners who all came along spouting mindless muslim hate and expletives as opposed to actually contributing
[QUOTE=BCell;22060965]I have a dumb theory that this could have been the work of Muslim Terrorist who uses this to incite more violence among Muslims. It could be a theory. Perhaps Al-Qaeda might use this ruse to get muslims angry over this and turn facebook into a scapegoat and the non-muslims gets the blame. And the person who created this was using a stolen identity.
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In short, look at Modern Warfare 2 storyline.
[sp]General Shepard of the US army incite a war between US and Russia. By planting Allen amongst the terrorist and get the american blamed for the attack. Spoiler tagged In case of people who haven't play Modern Warfare 2[/sp][/QUOTE]
don't fatwah me bro.
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[QUOTE=farmatyr;22061423][IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/soserious.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the new avatar.
I really wish someone here read the entire koran and had some serious input on whether or not it said you couldn't draw Mohammed or what not. Also I'm an atheist/darwinist.
Anyways, Muslims shouldn't be blamed for ANY of the OMFG U INFIDEL I KILL YOU kinda shit. True Muslims must honor laws* which states that you have to respect all lives, be nice, not swear etc etc . aka True muslims "Should" be really really nice people. As a in matter in fact, i think Islam is one of the best religions out there.
Then there are the people in the middle, who do get angry when someone "goes as far" to screw around with one of the most important persons in their religion. I shall call these, semi-fucktwats. These are the kind of muslims who haven't actually read the koran, doesn't follow shit of their own religion, but have no problem going fuck nuts about anyone saying anything bad about it. These are mostly harmless, but are some of the dumbest i don't even wanna get in to it. Also they lack the ability to IGNORE , seriously, how fucking hard is it to just NOT - LOOK - AT -IT ? If it pisses you off ? guess what, you can IGNORE IT ! I know right ?? fucking miracles !
Now on to the Ultimatum of this dumbfuckkery, TURUURIST. Just kidding, sort of. These are the people who will actually, look at something, that's not to be taken seriously, is a fucking drawing, and then realising.
"HEY !! THIS DRAWING = LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT"
Honest to god (lol like I'm christian.. ) How can ANYBODY be THAT stupid, "piece of paper=thousand lives, drawing=thousand lives, hmm seems good to me".. But in all fairness, these are the people who have not had the chance to actually learn the way of the koran, they've probably had a parent or what not tell them that "this is the way it is" And therefore they don't know any better. In terrorist camps, kids have a guy "read" the koran to them, but what they're actually doing is take shit out of the book, completely out of context, also altered, and then telling them THAT'S what Islam is ! And since the kids can not read, they're fucked, and doomed to a life of stupidity/terrorism.
TL;DR = Islam = Good, muslims who don't know shit about islam/overreactors = bad.
[b] Edit:[/b] Just read some stuff about the Sharia laws - laws of islam. And apparently "hurting" Mohammed or Allah is punishable by death. It's to be noticed that it does not state who should do the "killing".
[b] Edit2: [/b] Apparently several european civil laws has been affected by "the sharia laws", so they can't be that bad all of them.
[QUOTE=Romanoff;22061980]True Muslims must honor laws*[/QUOTE]
Sharia laws that is.
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