MPAA & WGAw fights against Google/Verizion proposal
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Lesser of two evils. MPAA, please win against Google.
An enemy of an enemy is not a friend.
[QUOTE=Cassettic;24076774]An enemy of an enemy is not a friend.[/QUOTE]
This does not apply here.
Did I just walk into a parallel Universe?.
[QUOTE=Ragy;24076621]What is the reason that Google wants this? I've been out of the loop for a few days.[/QUOTE]
Google is trying to ultimately take over the internet. Not to mention about them arguing on how they should do their invasive advertising and amongst other corrosive deeds.
Google is slowly losing respect with the internet and technical communities.
[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;24076020]No, they have laws to prevent you from pirating it because the MPAA is a bunch of rich, powerful, anonymous assfucks who will push around Congress to get their greedy ass-fucking way.
Also,
[img]http://questioncopyright.org/cm/images/piracy-is-not-theft.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
[quote]In criminal law, theft is the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's freely-given consent.[/quote]
A software product is copyrighted and the property of whoever makes it, check your EULA
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Whichever idiot made that picture didn't know what theft meant.
I still somewhat respect google just a little for making the Android OS used in my phone. Other then that not so much.
[QUOTE=thisispain;24077168]A software product is copyrighted and the property of whoever makes it, check your EULA
[editline]10:27PM[/editline]
Whichever idiot made that picture didn't know what theft meant.[/QUOTE]
They aren't "taking" the property. Going into their warehouse and taking a copy off the shelf is theft. By making digital copies, they aren't actually costing the company any money.
Besides, wouldn't said software product be property of the user who bought and uploaded it?
EDIT: And obviously the product is copyrighted, the whole argument is over copyright laws.
Piracy is not the same as theft in the traditional theft, but it's still theft.
I think the major difference is if you steal something, you prevent the owner from selling that product, making them lose profit. If you pirate it, they can still sell it to other people, just losing you as a potential buyer.
[QUOTE=Wii60;24075634]my mind is full of fuck[/QUOTE]
My fuck is full of mind.
[QUOTE=Wayword;24077239]Piracy is not the same as theft in the traditional theft, but it's still theft.
I think the major difference is if you steal something, you prevent the owner from selling that product, making them lose profit. If you pirate it, they can still sell it to other people, just losing you as a potential buyer.[/QUOTE]
It all boils down to you taking something without right which was illegally obtained. It has nothing to do with the seller not losing profits or losing anything. Those are just all excuses for piracy.
When we end up rooting for the [i]MPAA[/i] of all groups, you know Google dun goofed.
[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;24077236]
Besides, wouldn't said software product be property of the user who bought and uploaded it?[/QUOTE]
nope
end user's get copies licensed to them, read your EULA.
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[QUOTE=lil_n00blett;24077236]They aren't "taking" the property. Going into their warehouse and taking a copy off the shelf is theft. By making digital copies, they aren't actually costing the company any money.[/QUOTE]
yeah they are
a game's only purpose is to be played and that's the reason it is sold, how is that not costing anyone money
[editline]11:18PM[/editline]
there's no such thing as a free lunch
[QUOTE=Ragy;24076621]What is the reason that Google wants this? I've been out of the loop for a few days.[/QUOTE]
In this life
One thing counts
In the bank
Large amounts
I'm afraid these things don't grow on trees
Yooouuuuu've got to pick a pocket or twoooo, yooouuu've
Got to pick a pocket or twooo, yooo-uuuu've
Got to pick a pocket or two.
:psyduck:
Oh God, oh God, I don't know who's a good guy and who's a bad guy anymore
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[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;24081660]In this life
One thing counts
In the bank
Large amounts
I'm afraid these things don't grow on trees
Yooouuuuu've got to pick a pocket or twoooo, yooouuu've
Got to pick a pocket or twooo, yooo-uuuu've
Got to pick a pocket or two.[/QUOTE]
Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands
And make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team
Money get back
I'm all right Jack
Keep your hands off my stack
Money, it's a hit
Don't give me that
Do goody good bullshit
[QUOTE=thisispain;24077168]A software product is copyrighted and the property of whoever makes it, check your EULA
[editline]10:27PM[/editline]
Whichever idiot made that picture didn't know what theft meant.[/QUOTE]
UK Law definition of theft is the dishonest appropriation of another's property with the intention of depriving them of it.
there is a reason why there is copyright law and the theft act you know.
When did Google turn into Skynet?
what the dicks.
The "MPAA" MPAA? Am I thinking of the right MPAA?
This is like as if Voldemort teamed up with Darth Vader to fight Lex Luthor.
I don't know who to root for.
If net neutrality happens, it would scare a lot of people from downloading warez. If that happens, the MPAA wouldn't be able to sue those people and make money. Of course they are fighting it.
[QUOTE=Armotekma;24075836]regardless of "creating a copy" it's still stealing[/QUOTE]
It's not stealing, it's counterfeiting. :v:
Copyright laws need refining, fair use policy should be reinstated for non-commercial usage.
[QUOTE=Armotekma;24075938]if it isn't stealing there wouldn't be laws attempting to prevent you from "stealing" it. it's stealing even if it's not costing them money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft]In criminal law, theft is the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's freely-given consent.
...
The actus reus of theft is usually defined as an unauthorised taking, keeping or using of another's property which [B]must[/B] be accompanied by a mens rea of dishonesty and/or the intent to permanently [B]deprive the owner or the person with rightful possession of that property or its use[/B].[/QUOTE]
i think Verizon mad Google evil
(that's just my opinion)
[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;24081720]
Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands
And make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team
Money get back
I'm all right Jack
Keep your hands off my stack
Money, it's a hit
Don't give me that
Do goody good bullshit[/QUOTE]
I'm in the hi-fidelity
First class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet
(:sax:)
Money, it's a crime
Share it fairly
But don't take a slice of my pie
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil
Today
But if you ask for a rise
It's no surprise that they're
Giving none away
Away
Away
Away
Away...
Edit:
Still not rooting for the MPAA, though.
Summary of the last week:
[list]
[*]MPAA is being not evil.
[*]Google is being evil. (See this and various other In The News articles)
[*][url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=985789]Glenn Beck says something remotely intelligent.[/url]
[/list]
Something's wrong here.
:tinfoil:
[QUOTE=Skyhawk;24090684]Summary of the last week:
[list]
[*]MPAA is being not evil.
[*]Google is being evil. (See this and various other In The News articles)
[*][url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=985789]Glenn Beck says something remotely intelligent.[/url]
[/list]
Something's wrong here.
:tinfoil:[/QUOTE]
-MPAA is purely protecting their interests
-Google has succumbed to corruption after all
-We knew that Glenn Beck was only in it for the money anyway
But yeah, I see what you mean.
Am I the only one who expected badage in this thread?
I mean really, MPAA doing something good...
[QUOTE=nevaeh;24086512]If net neutrality happens, it would scare a lot of people from downloading warez. If that happens, the MPAA wouldn't be able to sue those people and make money. Of course they are fighting it.[/QUOTE]
You mean if net neutrality is violated. And it wouldn't scare people downloading warez, it would just make it difficult because ISP's would have much more power. Plus, the MPAA's goal is the exact opposite of what you said. They don't want piracy going on so they can sue pirates, they want piracy to stop so that pirates will buy their products.
:iiam:
But a good mystery.
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