• Khamenei: Iran Set to Deliver 'Punch' to Stun West on Anniversary
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[QUOTE=Howlthrug;20111777]And then billions die from MAD, fallout, and the possibility of nuclear winter.[/QUOTE] Mutual assured destruction between the USA and Iran? What are you smoking?
Honestly, if I was the leader of a Nation that was getting nuked, I wouldn't probably retaliate. No need for millions more to die out of some need to drag the enemy down with us.
[QUOTE=Howlthrug;20112100]Iran does have allies. Wouldn't any country using nukes to stop another country be consider a danger. Leading to some kind of chain reaction to start WWIII, nuclear warfare, or MAD.[/QUOTE] None of which have nukes that are known to us. It's MAD because everyone dies. If the west doesn't get massively nuked, it's not MAD is it?
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20112186]None of which have nukes that are known to us. It's MAD because everyone dies. If the west doesn't get massively nuked, it's not MAD is it?[/QUOTE] Russia?
Courtney, get my gun.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20112234]Russia?[/QUOTE] Russia didn't nuke with us MAD, they aren't going to nuke us now.
"GUYS WE'RE LIKE RILLY GONNA PUNCH YOU ON THURSDAY JUST YOU WAIT AND SEE" thursday rolls around silence. [U][I][B]ALTERNATE ENDING[/B][/I][/U] thursday rolls around NATO aircraft fill the sky over iran and drop a shitload of bombs all over the place iran surrenders yay freedom. [U][I][B]SECRET BONUS ALTERNATE ENDING [/B][/I][/U]thursday rolls around iran and old lady matthews bake everyone cookies. there's a big block party. everyone has fun. yay freedom.
I'm not saying we should nuke Iran, but if Iran were to seriously threaten us, or attack us, and we retaliated and destroyed them, Russia wouldn't do anything.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20112342]Russia didn't nuke with us MAD, they aren't going to nuke us now.[/QUOTE] That's because we did not nuke them either. But if we were to drop a bomb on Iran, everything changes.
Nuclear weapons threat, people revolt, someone gathers the angry people, throw nation over, new leader takes control of nuclear weapons, actually being assisted by russian nationalist group... SOAP, FLASHBANG THROUGH THE DOOR!
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20112430]That's because we did not nuke them either. But if we were to drop a bomb on Iran, everything changes.[/QUOTE] That depends though. Relations with Russia have changed, and they know if they attacked us they would be destroyed. Would Russia attack us because we attack Iran? That's the question of the day.
[QUOTE=Uberslug;20112291]Courtney, get my gun.[/QUOTE] No. WAHAHA!
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20112497]That depends though. Relations with Russia have changed, and they know if they attacked us they would be destroyed. Would Russia attack us because we attack Iran? That's the question of the day.[/QUOTE] This seems familiar... Austria attacks Serbia Russia attacks Austria Germany attacks Russia France attacks Germany Deja vu...
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20112535]This seems familiar... Austria attacks Serbia Russia attacks Austria Germany attacks Russia France attacks Germany Deja vu...[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the Schlieffen Plan plan was Germany attacks paris, which would effectively debilitate France, then run over and attack Russia while they were still getting armed. Unless you're thinking of some other war.
If they really do something they will get gang raped by west. And possibly China. I say bring it.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;20110710][img]http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/haha_oh_wow.jpg[/img] Iran: IRL trolling the West since 1979.[/QUOTE] I hope that's all that is.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20112566]I'm pretty sure the Schlieffen Plan plan was Germany attacks paris, which would effectively debilitate France, then run over and attack Russia while they were still getting armed. Unless you're thinking of some other war.[/QUOTE] You [u]completely[/u] missed my point. US attacks Iran Russia attacks US
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20112603]You [U]completely[/U] missed my point. US attacks Iran Russia attacks US[/QUOTE] The point is Russia might not defend Iran, especially if Iran threatens us/attacks us, and Russia now it will be destroyed. I'm not saying we should attack Iran now, I'm saying if things get serious in the near future.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20112366]I'm not saying we should nuke Iran, but if Iran were to seriously threaten us, or attack us, and we retaliated and destroyed them, Russia wouldn't do anything.[/QUOTE] The only reasonable way we could possibly nuke Iran, is they nuke a country first. So we have a reason to target them and blame them for firing first.
[QUOTE=Howlthrug;20112670]The only reasonable way we could possibly nuke Iran, is they nuke a country first. So we have a reason to target them and blame them for firing first.[/QUOTE] Precisely.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20112645]The point is Russia might not defend Iran, especially if Iran threatens us/attacks us, and Russia now it will be destroyed. I'm not saying we should attack Iran now, I'm saying if things get serious in the near future.[/QUOTE] Really think we should or can gamble on a "might"?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20112863]Really think we should or can gamble on a "might"?[/QUOTE] I'm not a leader, I can just speculate what will happen. I'm sure behind the scenes Obama, Putin, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Putin's tiger are all at the bar sitting back watching the superbowl and laughing at our paranoia. not really
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;20112645]The point is Russia might not defend Iran, especially if Iran threatens us/attacks us, and Russia now it will be destroyed. I'm not saying we should attack Iran now, I'm saying if things get serious in the near future.[/QUOTE] Russia would not defend Iran. IMHO, to Russia, they are nothing, but a customer. They would pressure US not to attack Iran, but not as far as to defend it. And if Russia would attack US, it'll be M.A.D. situation, so everyone gets fucked.
[QUOTE=gufu;20113077]Russia would not defend Iran. IMHO, to Russia, they are nothing, but a customer. They would pressure US not to attack Iran, but not as far as to defend it. And if Russia would attack US, it'll be M.A.D. situation, so everyone gets fucked.[/QUOTE] Russia doesn't have to attack the US with nukes necessarily.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;20113109]Russia doesn't have to attack the US with nukes necessarily.[/QUOTE] Why would Russia attack US with troops only, anyway? Most of the old soviet attack plans were based on nuking the enemy and then taking the important areas. So yeah, nuke the army, take over only the most important areas.
[QUOTE=ubertaco;20110752]If they fuck with the U.S. we are probably gonna [b]blow them out of the fucking [i]sky.[/i][/b][/QUOTE] What? It's Iran, not Cloud City...
[QUOTE=Nitrowing;20110726]Iran is getting ever closer to the cookie jar and still no one is stopping them.[/QUOTE] Isn't our problem. Let the people it affects directly deal with it. We are done being the world police. [editline]11:01PM[/editline] The only bargaining power Russia has is nuclear weapons. They have no economy.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;20113590]Isn't our problem. Let the people it affects directly deal with it. We are done being the world police. [/QUOTE] Um, it kind of does affect us.
I want to play DEFCON now since everyone's certain we will have a nuclear war.
Isn't an open and direct threat around the time of them developing nuclear power supposed to be considered an act of war?
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