At least 23 people killed in Mexican border city as victims hanged, decapitated from a bridge near t
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[QUOTE=Sanius;35863038]because teenagers think that weed is a miracle drug that will solve all problems[/QUOTE]
There is no valid reason why weed should be illegal though.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;35861004]Do you really think collective humanity is that fucking stupid?
If heroin was legalised tommorow would you fucking mainline it into your eyeball first thing in the morning? Didn't think so.
The main harms from heroin come from not knowing the dosage (variable strength sources), using dirty needles, the high pricing, and contaminants.
When unadulterated heroin of known strength is used in the correct way with sterile paraphernalia it is one of the safest drugs out there.
If it was in beverages like alcohol in a similar comparative dosage it would theoretically cause a similar level of harm because absorbing drugs through the digestive tract is far more inefficient than injecting directly into the bloodstream. If you took the amount of pure alcohol contained in a single pint of beer and passed it directly into the bloodstream you would be more than shitfaced :P
Did you know that you can order pure caffeine powder perfectly legitimately? Oh yeah so many kids are getting high of that, right?[/QUOTE]
I have 2kg of the shit. Once im underway I will be the fucking [B]GOD[/B] of not sleeping. :v:
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;35862973]Set aside over-liberal bullshit for 5 minutes, and actually think. I'm open to a lot of things but legalizing hard drugs in hopes to reduce overall crime rates is still a ridiculous idea.
People have the ability to decide for themselves whether or not to do something, no argument there. People can decide to not touch drugs, again, no argument. However, when you make something that was formerly somewhat difficult to obtain legal, all it will do is encourage more people to experiment. Curiosity gets the best of people. You can go on and on about how people will still do what they want anyway, but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't make it easier for people to get addicted to these things.
Yes, there will ALWAYS be ways of getting things, again, no argument there. But if you seriously think that legalizing something will reduce violence, you're downright fucking stupid. I already know that this post will get people up in arms, sending boxes and whatnot, but people need to stop always assuming it's about personal choice. If we start legalizing drugs, where do we draw the line? It progresses into other shit. I don't care if marijuana gets legalized. There is nothing really wrong with it. However, if you take, say, heroin, and make it legal, you're going to have another epidemic like in the crack epidemic in the 70's - 80's.
As to relating to your article, not every country would be able to follow in its footsteps. As an American, American's are fucking stupid. Our people have no concept of being able to be responsible. Our society is so fucked up, that we never take any responsibility for anything. We either say it's a disease, or we just ignore it all together and say, "Oh just go to therapy."
Regardless, hard drugs don't need to be legalized. Weed? Fine. But draw the line there. If people really think that legalizing hard drugs will stop a war, you're out of your mind. It goes deeper than that. There are a lot of underlying factors to why there is a war in Mexico. Though the primary reason is our drug addiction, it goes beyond.[/QUOTE]
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everything you type is fucking misinformed and asinine
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;35862973]Set aside over-liberal bullshit for 5 minutes, and actually think. I'm open to a lot of things but legalizing hard drugs in hopes to reduce overall crime rates is still a ridiculous idea.
People have the ability to decide for themselves whether or not to do something, no argument there. People can decide to not touch drugs, again, no argument. However, when you make something that was formerly somewhat difficult to obtain legal, all it will do is encourage more people to experiment. Curiosity gets the best of people. You can go on and on about how people will still do what they want anyway, but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't make it easier for people to get addicted to these things.
Yes, there will ALWAYS be ways of getting things, again, no argument there. But if you seriously think that legalizing something will reduce violence, you're downright fucking stupid. I already know that this post will get people up in arms, sending boxes and whatnot, but people need to stop always assuming it's about personal choice. If we start legalizing drugs, where do we draw the line? It progresses into other shit. I don't care if marijuana gets legalized. There is nothing really wrong with it. However, if you take, say, heroin, and make it legal, you're going to have another epidemic like in the crack epidemic in the 70's - 80's.
As to relating to your article, not every country would be able to follow in its footsteps. As an American, American's are fucking stupid. Our people have no concept of being able to be responsible. Our society is so fucked up, that we never take any responsibility for anything. We either say it's a disease, or we just ignore it all together and say, "Oh just go to therapy."
Regardless, hard drugs don't need to be legalized. Weed? Fine. But draw the line there. If people really think that legalizing hard drugs will stop a war, you're out of your mind. It goes deeper than that. There are a lot of underlying factors to why there is a war in Mexico. Though the primary reason is our drug addiction, it goes beyond.[/QUOTE]
You're not even trying to look beyond your own noes, are you? You're not looking at this from any other perspective than the American, overprotective "people can't help themselves" point of view. That's what happens when you live in a family where no one can be viewed as an educated adult. If people don't trust themselves to make educated choices, they should off themselves or get a fucking grip. If you don't trust anyone else to make their own choices in life, then by all fucking means build a shelter and fuck off!
The way you're arguing that violence will still be prominent is that it will move away from cartels and mafias and move over to 50 million addicts that couldn't manage that formerly illegal substances became legal. ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE! I mean, yeah. For the southern states, that could just be a reality. Luckily, they're all licking the balls off of a ghost master that is God and therefore won't touch the stuff.
The rest of them should be able to enjoy it at parties without doing stupid shit. Especially when considering that IF LEGALIZED, proper instructions will follow the substance and it would probably NOT be ingested THROUGH BLOOD! It would be much like Alcohol or Cigarettes (as formerly pointed out) and by fucking Hades, if you didn't notice, Alcohol also comes in forms that are lethal if you ingest but half a glass of it, so that's not an argument either.
There's a difference between legalizing it and letting it loose on Minors, but what does you and your tunnel-vision give about that. Yeah, Americans are stupid by culture. The reason for that stupidity is uneducated guessing, hating on unknown before reviewing the facts or educated theories and just coming up with their own idiotic shit and shout it out loud until it becomes the truth for them. First off, Not all Americans are retarded, they're a Minority. Secondly, You're right in the center of it, mate.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;35862973]Set aside over-liberal bullshit for 5 minutes[/QUOTE]
guys if you just didn't have any opinions for 5 minutes that would great
That's the third time in the last week I've seen the words "overly liberal"
What does that even mean.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;35865143]That's the third time in the last week I've seen the words "overly liberal"
What does that even mean.[/QUOTE]
Running naked in the streets?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;35865143]That's the third time in the last week I've seen the words "overly liberal"
What does that even mean.[/QUOTE]
presumably it means we all have a penchant for drug-addled, godless sodomy
You know when dozens of people are being lynched over bridges in broad daylight that your countries government is having some serious issues.
[QUOTE=Chocolate.;35866450]You know when dozens of people are being lynched over bridges in broad daylight that your countries government is having some serious issues.[/QUOTE]
or that the year is 1870.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35866484]or that the year is 1870.[/QUOTE]
People are will always be both bad and good. We'll never degenerate into being savages and there will always be people who are strong enough to crush guys like these cartels (whether they do or don't), but this? This will be apart of human history for a loooooong time to come.
[QUOTE=Sanius;35852295]cartels would still exist if all the dope nugs were legalised[/QUOTE]
hey hey hey
hey guys
I have a revolutionary idea
how about
GUYS
how about... we legalise the drugs
AND
we go in with military intervention
????
[QUOTE=Chocolate.;35866450]You know when dozens of people are being lynched over bridges in broad daylight that your countries government is having some serious issues.[/QUOTE]
Weren't they dead before hanging? Then technically they aren't being lynched.
[QUOTE=Oxu365;35849799]Oh god I have life long trauma because of that shit[/QUOTE]
To watch it or not to watch it?
[QUOTE=proch;35941608]To watch it or not to watch it?[/QUOTE]It's not that bad. You might feel sick for a day or two but to be scarred for life is a huge overstatement.
Why wasn't it posted in the PTSTW thread?
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;35859034]Legalizing weed to combat the cartels is going to do fuck all. Seriously. They're too well dug in and they're already sitting on millions upon millions of dollars.
Not to mention the massive bias many people have against it being legalized.
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Why does the LEGALIZE WEED! argument always pop up in Mexico/cartel threads?[/QUOTE]
they'll just cash in on more hardcore drugs, the logic is completely flawed.
Then again, maybe they won't, I don't know.
I think cartels earn less from weed than they do from hard drugs. Weed is sold by local growers more than from cartels. Weed probably brings least of their profits. But still weed should be legalized because there is no reason why not.
[QUOTE=Sanius;35863038]because teenagers think that weed is a miracle drug that will solve all problems[/QUOTE]
compared to some pharma shit that's out there today, that's not a far stretch. (it being a "miracle" drug, not it solving all problems)
[QUOTE=Turnips5;35941063]hey hey hey
hey guys
I have a revolutionary idea
how about
GUYS
how about... we legalise the drugs
AND
we go in with military intervention
????[/QUOTE]
get this man to the pentagon
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;35941997]get this man to the pentagon[/QUOTE]
sometimes i just have to sit down for a bit when i come up with an idea this good
If drugs become legal, everyone gets high, who goes to war with mexico?
The cartels would spread into other countries, and that's [I]really[/I] not what we want.
[QUOTE=proch;35943320]The cartels would spread into other countries, and that's [I]really[/I] not what we want.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't be easy. They're well integrated and powerful in Mexico but they would have trouble in other countries. Especially if US border is far, getting shit over borders would be much harder.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35942270]If drugs become legal, everyone gets high, who goes to war with mexico?[/QUOTE]
Now that would be a real drug war.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;35849970]The Mexican government already looks incompetent.
The Cartels aren't like guerrilla fighters in Afghanistan or Vietnam, they don't have the support of the native population and they're being attacked regularly by their country's military, if someone like the US intervened militarily we would probably crush them, the only things they have going for them is their knowledge of the land and supply of weapons.[/QUOTE]
Part of the problem is that the Mexican government/police is corrupt as fuck. The cartels have tons of money.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35943412]Wouldn't be easy. They're well integrated and powerful in Mexico but they would have trouble in other countries. Especially if US border is far, getting shit over borders would be much harder.[/QUOTE]
You're right. But even if they would fail, it would most likely still cause a lot of trouble in neighbour countries.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;35945657]Part of the problem is that the Mexican government/police is corrupt as fuck. The cartels have tons of money.[/QUOTE]
I think at this point the best damage control would be the US army moving in and declaring martial law, lock down the whole Mexicon lawn-enforcers and put them under surveillance. Bust in all the suspected locations of cartels and treat cartel members as military prisoners (many of them are ex-military anyways). I know it's not the best option, but right now it's the quickest way. Otherwise this will go on for tens of years with hundreds of thousands of dead among civilians and cartel members.
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