Anti-Defamation League Declares Pepe the Frog a Hate Symbol - Polidicks

[QUOTE=archangel125;51119546]Before you idiots fly off the handle, read the actual entry in their database. Seems about right. Quit throwing a fit about it. OP, could you possibly append this to your post? It's more relevant information, so it's better for preventing stupid knee-jerk reactions from Time's editorializing.[/QUOTE] added

[QUOTE=TheHydra;51119783]added[/QUOTE] Thanks, man.

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51119539]Oh fuck off with this shit. No one gave a shit about this frog outside the internet until this election. They're only doing this to flex their morality muscles and pat themselves on the back for doing such a good job. Instead of tackling real issues they just attack a fucking meme. The self righteous heroes of the world need to understand that people on the internet are gonna say and do stupid stuff. You aren't going to stop people from posting this frog just because you say it's bad. Welcome to the web, your feelings are gonna get hurt so suck it up.[/QUOTE] the irony of this post is that you're the one flying off the handle, not the ADL. it's obvious you only read the title of the thread, and not the article lol

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51119788]Remember when memes were exclusively on a select few websites and were actually inside jokes that made sense and people understood? Good times.[/QUOTE] It still happens. We've got a few on Facepunch.

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51119898]the irony of this post is that you're the one flying off the handle, not the ADL. it's obvious you only read the title of the thread, and not the article lol[/QUOTE] The thing is, Time didn't cite the original source, and we only found out the truth when going to the ADL itself. I don't fault him if he only read what Time said.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51119901]It still happens. We've got a few on Facepunch.[/QUOTE] and dan was boobies

[QUOTE=Fangz;51119960]The thing is, Time didn't cite the original source, and we only found out the truth when going to the ADL itself. I don't fault him if he only read what Time said.[/QUOTE] oh, guess i'm an ass. that's what i get for being late to the thread

[QUOTE=.Isak.;51119692]Dunno why people have their pitchforks out - [b]you literally almost only see Pepe on /pol/ anymore or maybe crying Pepe on feels threads elsewhere on 4chan or maybe the red yelling one on /r9k/ or something. A fair percentage of its usage is directly related to genuine white supremacy.[/b][/QUOTE] Frogposting isn't as rare as you make it out to be lmfao. Thanks to the media hyping the literal fuck out of this dumbass frog it's posted everywhere, and 85% of it's usage outside of /pol/ is non-bigoted. Get your fucking facts straight. Head to any Instagram meme page and you will spot at least 14 neutral pepes.

[QUOTE=iggy650;51119970]and dan was boobies[/QUOTE] What are your parameters?

tumblr also still loves pepe

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51120025]What are your parameters?[/QUOTE] Facepunch-created memes, probably. Like Dancing Rocket Man. Good god, I miss the Photoshop Contests subforum.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51120036]Facepunch-created memes, probably. Like Dancing Rocket Man. Good god, I miss the Photoshop Contests subforum.[/QUOTE] Didn't FP start the Hentai Subway meme too?

[QUOTE=lavacano;51119371]I never liked the meme in the first place, but Pepe doesn't deserve to end up like this[/QUOTE] To think that it started out as a frog peeing with his pants all the way down and his room mate checking him out.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;51120025]What are your parameters?[/QUOTE] Let me put it this way: You're begging the question.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51120000] Get your fucking facts straight. Head to any Instagram meme page and you will spot at least 14 [b]neutral pepes.[/b][/QUOTE] We live in a day and age where meme's are rated on a scale of neutrality. What a time to be alive.

I feel bad for the creator of Pepe.

Pepe never asked for this.

Will this affect the value of rare Pepes?

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;51120147]Didn't FP start the Hentai Subway meme too?[/QUOTE] God that thread pure gold content

The ADL says "Pepe is starting to be used in racist ways, but it's only racist if it's being used in such a way." Time takes that and says "Pepe officially a hate symbol." Why did I expect anything different.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;51119692]They're saying that it [I]can[/I] be used as a hate symbol, which is pretty plainly obvious to most people honestly. Nobody actually thinks it's inherently a hate symbol, but it absolutely can be in certain context and is semi-regularly used as a white supremacist/alt-right symbol in those contexts. Dunno why people have their pitchforks out - you literally almost only see Pepe on /pol/ anymore or maybe crying Pepe on feels threads elsewhere on 4chan or maybe the red yelling one on /r9k/ or something. A fair percentage of its usage is directly related to genuine white supremacy.[/QUOTE] I just opened the very first 10 threads on /b/ (excluding the furry porn one) Here are the frogposts in them [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog1.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog2.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog3.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog4.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog5.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog6.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog7.PNG[/IMG] That's 9 frogposts in 10 threads. Four of the threads I opened only had three posts in them so these aren't even good examples of standard threads. Literally any given thread on 4chan (or ANY -chan) has an extremely high likelihood of there being a massive amount of frogposts in them. It's just a reaction image.

RIP Pepe. You were too good for this world.

[QUOTE=phygon;51120718]I just opened the very first 10 threads on /b/ (excluding the furry porn one) Here are the frogposts in them [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog1.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog2.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog3.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog4.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog5.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog6.PNG[/IMG][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12024286/Reaction%20images/frog7.PNG[/IMG] That's 9 frogposts in 10 threads. Four of the threads I opened only had three posts in them so these aren't even good examples of standard threads. Literally any given thread on 4chan (or ANY -chan) has an extremely high likelihood of there being a massive amount of frogposts in them. It's just a reaction image.[/QUOTE] The ADL agrees with you [B]The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted.[/B] However, it was inevitable that, as the meme proliferated in on-line venues such as 4chan, 8chan, and Reddit, which have many users who delight in creating racist memes and imagery, a subset of Pepe memes would come into existence that centered on racist, anti-Semitic or other bigoted themes.

[QUOTE=Guriosity;51119523][url]http://www.techinsider.io/this-guy-created-one-of-the-most-famous-memes-heres-why-hes-kinda-pissed-off-2015-7[/url][/QUOTE] funny how Wojak has remained enigmatic to the media throughout all of this.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;51119692]They're saying that it [I]can[/I] be used as a hate symbol, which is pretty plainly obvious to most people honestly. Nobody actually thinks it's inherently a hate symbol, but it absolutely can be in certain context and is semi-regularly used as a white supremacist/alt-right symbol in those contexts. Dunno why people have their pitchforks out - you literally almost only see Pepe on /pol/ anymore or maybe crying Pepe on feels threads elsewhere on 4chan or maybe the red yelling one on /r9k/ or something. A fair percentage of its usage is directly related to genuine white supremacy.[/QUOTE] Go to any major twitch stream with BTTV installed and you'll see FeelsBadman all the time.

You know, I think when your life is so good that this is the sort of thing you have to find offensive and declare a hate symbol, that you really don't have anything to complain about and need to find a hobby I mean, people photoshop Trump to look like Hitler all the time, are we to declare Trump a hate s... actually this is a bad analogy

can we all just like, restart civilization like build a few underground bunkers, nuke everything topside, start over.

[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;51121061]Go to any major twitch stream with BTTV installed and you'll see FeelsBadman all the time.[/QUOTE] Eh, maybe it's just my own internet browsing habits, but I rarely see it - the only place on 4chan I actually end up looking at on a semi-rarely-regular basis is /pol/ (just to see what idiots are saying) and that's where I end up seeing pepe most regularly. That said, the ADL specified that it was a co-opted symbol sometimes twisted into white supremacist contexts. The ADL is [i]very very very[/i] specific that context is important over all. Other symbols that they list as possible "white supremacist symbols" (depending on context) include 100%, 12, 13, 14, 14/23, 14/88, 18, 28, 23/16, 318, 33/6, 38, 43, 511, 737, 83, 88, 9%, ACAB, Coors logo tattoos, h8 (hate), pit bull tattoos, ORION, apartheid-era South African flag, and on and on. It's an exhaustive list of things that [i]have been used as racist symbols[/i], not things that [i]inherently are[/i] racist symbols. They have two pages of just [i]individual numbers[/i] that are used by certain groups to reference certain things - 14 referring to "14 words," 23/16 referring to "W/P" in the alphabet for "White Power," and so on. Context means everything - the ADL is being very, very reasonable with this. They're not saying "stop using pepe," just like they're not saying "stop using the numbers 12-14."

The swastika wasn't a hatesymbol until the nazis took it for them self. It's kind of the same thing here isn't it?

[QUOTE=gastyne;51121111]The swastika wasn't a hatesymbol until the nazis took it for them self. It's kind of the same thing here isn't it?[/QUOTE] no