Anti-Defamation League Declares Pepe the Frog a Hate Symbol
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It seems the plan to claim Pepe back from the Normies was successful then
[QUOTE=gastyne;51121111]The swastika wasn't a hatesymbol until the nazis took it for them self.
It's kind of the same thing here isn't it?[/QUOTE]
Not exactly. The swastika was semi-obscure (though not entirely foreign) to most western cultures before the Nazis started using it. Racist Pepe wasn't really a thing until after he went mainstream.
The ADL would deem a particularly bendy pipe a hate symbol
[QUOTE=amute;51121400]The ADL would deem a particularly bendy pipe a hate symbol[/QUOTE]
Tubular Bells?
[QUOTE=.Isak.;51119692]They're saying that it [I]can[/I] be used as a hate symbol, which is pretty plainly obvious to most people honestly. Nobody actually thinks it's inherently a hate symbol, but it absolutely can be in certain context and is semi-regularly used as a white supremacist/alt-right symbol in those contexts.
Dunno why people have their pitchforks out - you literally almost only see Pepe on /pol/ anymore or maybe crying Pepe on feels threads elsewhere on 4chan or maybe the red yelling one on /r9k/ or something. A fair percentage of its usage is directly related to genuine white supremacy.[/QUOTE]
You can say that for any meme though, and this whole thing started out as a nonfact checked troll got his statements posted on the Daily Beast.
Honestly, I have reached the point where anything the ADL or SPLC says is either grade-a bullshit, or something which is so sensationalized that it's original point which may of had promise, is lost under bullshit.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51122894]Honestly, I have reached the point where anything the ADL or SPLC says is either grade-a bullshit, or something which is so sensationalized that it's original point which may of had promise, is lost under bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Do you actually read articles before you post? Just curious.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51122900]Do you actually read articles before you post? Just curious.[/QUOTE]
I have, but this is just how I feel about the two in general. They tend to go out of their way saying shit.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51122912]I have, but this is just how I feel about the two in general. They tend to go out of their way saying shit.[/QUOTE]
Except their description in their entry was [I]exactly[/I] on point this time.
The ADL is full of shit, honestly. I'm Jewish, but they're incredibly pro-Israeli. There's nothing wrong with Israel as a nation, but the ADL goes out of its way to justify war crimes like the 2014 Gaza War (which wasn't a war crime in itself, rather the IDF's handing and their general "bomb the shit out of everything" mentality). Anyone who criticizes Israel is automatically labeled as "Anti-Semitic" by them, whether or not actual Anti-Semitic tropes are there.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the ADL. If there's any Israeli human rights group you should trust it's B'Tselem.
[QUOTE=Hochi;51123767]The ADL is full of shit, honestly. I'm Jewish, but they're incredibly pro-Israeli. There's nothing wrong with Israel as a nation, but the ADL goes out of its way to justify war crimes like the 2014 Gaza War (which wasn't a war crime in itself, rather the IDF's handing and their general "bomb the shit out of everything" mentality). Anyone who criticizes Israel is automatically labeled as "Anti-Semitic" by them, whether or not actual Anti-Semitic tropes are there.
Bottom line I wouldn't trust the ADL. If there's any Israeli human rights group you should trust it's B'Tselem.[/QUOTE]
I haven't heard of B'Tselem, probably 'cause they're not as controversial. What's special about them?
[QUOTE=archangel125;51124332]I haven't heard of B'Tselem, probably 'cause they're not as controversial. What's special about them?[/QUOTE]
B'Tselem is an Israeli human rights group that calls out all the bullshit the current right-wing government is doing, how they're promoting things such as the West Bank settlements and what not.
There's not just ADL, there's also NGO Monitor, a bullshit organization devoted specifically to calling out respectable human rights organizations for their criticism of Israel.
In my opinion, the left-wing (IE the Zionist Union) needs to take the reigns from the right-wing (Likud, Tkuma, Jewish Home) as soon as they can, the right-wing is leading the country down the wrong path and helping to cultivate a society-wide victim complex.
[video=youtube;M9Sdkps0Quo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Sdkps0Quo[/video]
This sums it up
I'm honestly surprised that the ADL mentioned that pepe isn't anti-semitic in all cases; knowing them they'd say every single pepe is anti-semitic
this is the most surreal sentence i've ever constructed
i'm starting to think this all just a fever dream
so who the fuck are the anti-defamation league and why does that name sound entirely pompous
can we get Garfield banned by the adl?
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--lBw8nTCk[/media]
oh can we get pepe banned by the naacp too?
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