Woman leads protest march near CIA HQ and Cheney's house.
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[QUOTE=Urkel01;19692652]i said it was unlikely that they'd kill the same civilians that we're killing[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Urkel01;19692387]
what are you saying, that "terrorists" would just fire randomly into a group of their own people or something?[/QUOTE]
These are definitely the two stupidest statements I've ever read on this website.
Who the fuck do you think TERRORISTS kill? Carbombs go off all the time in crowded city streets. Suicide bombers detonate backpacks full of explosives and nails outside Mosques all the time. They don't just attack American soldiers you fool. The Sunni vs. Shi'ite problem has caused thousands of civillian deaths.
I've seen videos of Juba Snipers in Iraq shooting their own police.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_car_bombings[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bombings_in_Iraq_since_2003[/url]
[QUOTE=Luxo;19718798]Wait, so the people who hate war because it cases death and suffering... are protesting a robot that spare the lives of soldiers?
What a bunch of fucking idiotic hypocrites![/QUOTE]
But in turn kills a lot of innocent people and still causes death and destruction
not exactly a win/win
[editline]06:40AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Luxo;19718810]Well it is. :smug:[/QUOTE]
hahaha
no, not really
[editline]06:42AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tameric;19718811]The Sunni vs. Shi'ite problem has caused thousands of civillian deaths[/QUOTE]
and guess who caused this problem:
you guessed it
[IMG]http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/7/2047815/images/00336841.jpg[/IMG]
Uncle fucking sam and his goosestepping comrade, Paul Bremer
[editline]06:43AM[/editline]
all the blood spilt by Iraqi milita's, insurgents, and religious sects, is on the hands of Americans
[editline]06:43AM[/editline]
god bless america, for fucking everything up and laying blame on everyone else
[editline]06:45AM[/editline]
now of course, Tameric, I shouldn't talk, seeing as I don't have military training or combat experience like you OBVIOUSLY do.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19718815]But in turn kills a lot of innocent people and still causes death and destruction[/QUOTE]
You're not very smart are you?
[QUOTE=Luxo;19718878]You're not very smart are you?[/QUOTE]
oh dear
you sure showed me
drones never kill innocents
[url]http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440[/url]
nope
[editline]06:48AM[/editline]
hate to break it to you, but this isn't call of duty
I'm sick and tired of this shit. How many people have died so far in the middle east? Around 6,125. Do you know how many people died in World War 2? Over 60 million. Now I know what you're thinking, WW2 was a war of huge scale and many more combatants. It was total war. However, you have to look at how everyone is reacting. On D-Day alone around 5,000 Allied soldiers died. The mothers at home thought it was an honor to have their son fighting and if necessary dying for their country. What has happened to the world?
[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19719005]I'm sick and tired of this shit. How many people have died so far in the middle east? Around 6,125. Do you know how many people died in World War 2? Over 60 million. Now I know what you're thinking, WW2 was a war of huge scale and many more combatants. It was total war. However, you have to look at how everyone is reacting. On D-Day alone around 5,000 Allied soldiers died. The mothers at home thought it was an honor to have their son fighting and if necessary dying for their country. What has happened to the world?[/QUOTE]
I'm not exactly sure what your point is?
are you implying people aren't as proud to kill people as they used to be and that's a bad thing?
WW2 was a war to stop aggression
the Iraq war is a scheme set up by big oil companies
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19718752]TV also tells you the Iraqi insurgents are all evil and hate America for its freedom[/QUOTE]
Actually, TV has never told me this, but then, I live in the UK.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19718815]
and guess who caused this problem:
you guessed it
[IMG]http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/7/2047815/images/00336841.jpg[/IMG]
Uncle fucking sam and his goosestepping comrade, Paul Bremer
[/QUOTE]
Wow. What the fuck are you talking about?
The conflict between the Shia Muslims and the Sunni Muslims has gone on since the death of Mohammad.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi'a–Sunni_relations[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Shia_Muslims[/url]
You actually think that the Shi'te and the Sunnis loved eachother until America came along?
What?
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19718815]
all the blood spilt by Iraqi milita's, insurgents, and religious sects, is on the hands of Americans
[editline]06:43AM[/editline]
god bless america, for fucking everything up and laying blame on everyone else
[/QUOTE]
Again, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Unless you sincerely think that all branches of Islam work together in peace but all of the sudden hate each other so much to the point of doing suicide attacks.....all because America came into existence.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19718815]
now of course, Tameric, I shouldn't talk, seeing as I don't have military training or combat experience like you OBVIOUSLY do.[/QUOTE]
I really don't know what your problem is. I never said anything about the military, combat training, or war.
You should really consider removing that tampon you have rammed home in your vagina.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719034]I'm not exactly sure what your point is?
are you implying people aren't as proud to kill people as they used to be and that's a bad thing?
WW2 was a war to stop aggression
the Iraq war is a scheme set up by big oil companies[/QUOTE]
I swear everytime I see you post, your pointlessly arguing about some war or such.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19718898]oh dear
you sure showed me
drones never kill innocents
[url]http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440[/url]
nope
[editline]06:48AM[/editline]
hate to break it to you, but this isn't call of duty[/QUOTE]
There is no such thing as a weapon that only kills the bad guys. Collateral damage and unwanted civilian death will always exist no matter what weapon you use. Things like unmanned drones are used to take out specific targets with laser guided bombs to reduce collateral damage.
Would you rather have a laser guided bomb killing 90% insurgents and 10% civillians.....or an unguided 2000lb bomb killing 50% insurgents and 50% civillians?
[QUOTE=Tameric;19719080]Wow. What the fuck are you talking about?
The conflict between the Shia Muslims and the Sunni Muslims has gone on since the death of Mohammad.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi'a–Sunni_relations[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Shia_Muslims[/url]
You actually think that the Shi'te and the Sunnis loved eachother until America came along?
What?[/quote]
Saddam kept them in line, and with Bremer's three points there was less ability to keep them in place.
[quote]Again, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Unless you sincerely think that all branches of Islam work together in peace but all of the sudden hate each other so much to the point of doing suicide attacks.....all because American came into existence.[/quote]
no, again, you think Iraq was a hell hole before the US came?
not at all, it was a firm leadership. Saddam kept them in line
[quote]I really don't know what your problem is. I never said anything about the military, combat training, or war.
You should really consider removing that tampon you have rammed home in your vagina.[/QUOTE]
oh you and your witty comments
remember kids, if you respond to a person, you're a woman, and being a woman is bad cuz im tameric, some 14/15 year old kid from white upper middle class assnowhere Kentucky.
[editline]07:11AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tameric;19719138]There is no such thing as a weapon that only kills the bad guys. Collateral damage and unwanted civilian death will always exist no matter what weapon you use. Things like unmanned drones are used to take out specific targets with laser guided bombs to reduce collateral damage.
Would you rather have a laser guided bomb killing 90% insurgents and 10% civillians.....or an unguided 2000lb bomb killing 50% insurgents and 50% civillians?[/QUOTE]
"bad guys"
you mean those silly little brown people that are being oppressed by Americans?
oh them... what a bunch of jerks
BOMB THEM INTO FREEDOM
uhhh, I hardly count 14/685 a 90%/10%
fuck you suck at basic math
[editline]07:12AM[/editline]
Gj reading the statistics in the article
My opinion on the matter:
Fuck no, war!
Fuck yea superior military technology!
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719166]Saddam kept them in line, and with Bremer's three points there was less ability to keep them in place.
[/QUOTE]
WHHHHHHATTTTTT.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
The Shi'te and Sunni conflict is ALL OVER THE WORLD. Not just in Iraq. And it was NEVER kept in line under Saddam's rule you idiot. Their fighting has gone on since 632 AD.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719166]
no, again, you think Iraq was a hell hole before the US came?
not at all, it was a firm leadership. Saddam kept them in line
[/QUOTE]
Iraq was a hellhole. He was pretty much Stalin.
And if by "kept them in line" you meant killing the undesirables with mustard gas, then yes.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719166]
oh you and your witty comments
remember kids, if you respond to a person, you're a woman, and being a woman is bad cuz im tameric, some 14/15 year old kid from white upper middle class assnowhere Kentucky.
[/QUOTE]
??? What the fuck are you talking about?
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719166]
"bad guys"
you mean those silly little brown people that are being oppressed by Americans?
oh them... what a bunch of jerks
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, those silly little brown people who kill their own people with car bombs just because they have a different belief in the same god. Those silly little brown people who commit acts of terror across the world (Madrid, London, India, etc.) who for some reason you think are being oppressed by America.
Makes sense right?
Oppressed by America? Go to India and kill a hundred people in the Marriot hotel.
Still oppressed? Go hold hostage a bunch of Israeli athletes in a hotel room at the Olympics, then kill them on the tarmac.
STILL oppressed? Go set off bombs on a double decker bus in London.
STILL being oppressed? Go set off more bombs in a subway in Madrid.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719166]
uhhh, I hardly count 14/685 a 90%/10%
fuck you suck at basic math
[editline]07:12AM[/editline]
Gj reading the statistics in the article[/QUOTE]
I didn't read the article. I was using an rough example to give you an basic idea of why guided missiles are better than just dropping a bomb in the general area of the target.
[QUOTE=Tameric;19719286]WHHHHHHATTTTTT.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
The Shi'te and Sunni conflict is ALL OVER THE WORLD. Not just in Iraq. And it was NEVER kept in line under Saddam's rule you idiot. Their fighting has gone on since 632 AD.[/quote]
Hey I'm not an idiot just because you can't keep on topic
we're talking about Iraq here.
[quote]Iraq was a hellhole. He was pretty much Stalin. [/quote]
You see, you don't have a friend who has his whole family living there like I do, nor do you have any knowledge of what happened. Saddam kept Iraq a ruthless dictatorship. and that's why it was an organized one.
Stalin was a right-wing loser who killed millions of people
no where near Saddam
[quote]And if by "kept them in line" you meant killing the undesirables with mustard gas, then yes.[/quote]
Christ, you're really misinformed, aren't you?
[quote]??? What?[/quote]
Not that hard to understand
and stop with the over dramatized WAAHHHTTTT
[quote]Yeah, those silly little brown people who kill their own people with car bombs just because they have a different belief in the same god. [/quote]
Soooo, America's enemy is the shiites and sunnis only?
[quote] Those silly little brown people who commit acts of terror across the world (Madrid, London, India, etc.) [/quote]
I wasn't aware two religous sects in Iraq did the bombings in London, India and Madrid.
huh
Well, Northern Ireland goes through the same shit, only it's with Jesus.
so what, should America invade Northern Ireland?
[quote]who for some reason you think are being oppressed by America. [/quote]
all people from the middle east are terrorists
true story
Makes sense right?
[quote]Oppressed by America? Go to India and kill a hundred people in the Marriot hotel[/quote]
you don't seem to grasp the complexity of this situation
it can only be understood with meticulous research and shunning generalizations.
[quote]I didn't read the article. I was using an rough example to give you an basic idea of why guided missiles are better than just dropping a bomb in the general area of the target.[/QUOTE]
uhhhhhh
and I posted an article stating why it still sucks
which you didn't read
can you SEE the problem?
[editline]07:33AM[/editline]
this is why teenagers shouldn't attempt to grasp geo-politics
[QUOTE=Tameric;19719286]Iraq was a hellhole. He was pretty much Stalin.[/QUOTE]
Ughh... It was actually a really nice, prospering place from what I've heard.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]Hey I'm not an idiot just because you can't keep on topic
we're talking about Iraq here.
[/QUOTE]
Nice cop out because you have no response.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]
You see, you don't have a friend who has his whole family living there like I do, nor do you have any knowledge of what happened. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, because I can't do research right?
I guess everyone loved Saddam. When they tore down his statues and people were cheering and hitting the statue with their shoes, they were doing it to show how much they loved living under his rule.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]
Saddam kept Iraq a ruthless dictatorship. and that's why it was an organized one.[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously......SERIOUSLY.....fucking saying that Saddam's dicatorship was a good thing?
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]
Soooo, America's enemy is the shiites and sunnis only?
[/QUOTE]
What? Where the fuck are you getting this shit at? Do you have Dyslexia?
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]
I wasn't aware two religous sects in Iraq did the bombings in London, India and Madrid.
[/QUOTE]
Who said they did? You started this when you said "you mean those silly little brown people that are being oppressed by Americans?". Which is of course, your euphemism for terrorists. Which is why I brought of the subway bombings of Madrid and London, the bus bombing of London, and the hotel SHOOTING in India.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]
Well, Northern Ireland goes through the same shit, only it's with Jesus.
so what, should America invade Northern Ireland?
[/QUOTE]
If Nortern Ireland was home to a massive terror organization that plotted attacks around the globe and were responsible for the deaths of several hundred thousand civillians in dozens of countries, then yes.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]
uhhhhhh
and I posted an article stating why it still sucks
which you didn't read
can you SEE the problem?
[/quote]
I didn't read the article nor did I ever respond to the article. I really don't get why you keep bringing this up. My statement was not a reply to the article.
Go back to WW2. If there was a building you needed to destroy, you dropped hundreds of bombs on the general location.
Go to Afganistan. There is a building you need destroyed. You shoot a laser guided missile from an unmanned flying airplane and hit the building. Not the building next to it, the cars next to it, the school next to it, the house next to it, etc.
The point of the drones and laser guided bombs is that they are more efficient at doing less collateral damage than dropping a coventional dumb bomb on the general area of the target. If all the drones were equipped with dumb bombs, then the number of civillian deaths would sky rocket into the orbit of Jupiter.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]
this is why teenagers shouldn't attempt to grasp geo-politics[/QUOTE]
Says the guy who thinks that the Shia and Sunni conflict is caused by America. A country founded 1200 years after the initial separation of the two sects.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719390]
Christ, you're really misinformed, aren't you?
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Saddam was a nice guy who never committed genocide.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujail_Massacre[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack[/url]
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19717825]and you're armchair general 3 star?[/QUOTE]
We all know you are Trotsky! You're our supreme commander!
:patriot:
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719034]I'm not exactly sure what your point is?
are you implying people aren't as proud to kill people as they used to be and that's a bad thing?
WW2 was a war to stop aggression
the Iraq war is a scheme set up by big oil companies[/QUOTE]
Oh really
Show me the reduced gas prices
OH WAIT, I'm still paying $2.95 per gallon.
I'm pro-drones, but I'm also very much pro-bothering Cheney.
hmm
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719166]Saddam kept them in line, and with Bremer's three points there was less ability to keep them in place.
no, again, you think Iraq was a hell hole before the US came?
not at all, it was a firm leadership. Saddam kept them in line
oh you and your witty comments
remember kids, if you respond to a person, you're a woman, and being a woman is bad cuz im tameric, some 14/15 year old kid from white upper middle class assnowhere Kentucky.
[editline]07:11AM[/editline]
"bad guys"
you mean those silly little brown people that are being oppressed by Americans?
oh them... what a bunch of jerks
BOMB THEM INTO FREEDOM
uhhh, I hardly count 14/685 a 90%/10%
fuck you suck at basic math
[editline]07:12AM[/editline]
Gj reading the statistics in the article[/QUOTE]
You seriously have nothing to do than to rant and bitch on some internet forum about how everyone around that site is "stupid", "dumb", "retarded", etc. ?
Why do you even come to this forum if everyone you meet here has such an amazingly low brain span compared to your righteous, genius mind?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;19719668]You seriously have nothing to do than to rant and bitch on some internet forum about how everyone around that site is "stupid", "dumb", "retarded", etc. ?
Why do you even come to this forum if everyone you meet here has such an amazingly low brain span compared to your righteous, genius mind?[/QUOTE]
This pretty much sums it up.
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19719625]Oh really
Show me the reduced gas prices
OH WAIT, I'm still paying $2.95 per gallon.[/QUOTE]
take the train
[QUOTE=Tameric;19719532]Nice cop out because you have no response.[/quote]
No seriously, we're talking about Iraq
Iraq
[IMG]http://www.kentlaw.edu/perritt/courses/civpro/1-17-05ColorizedIraqMap.jpg[/IMG]
[quote]Yeah, because I can't do research right?[/quote]
You link to wikipedia articles, that's not expert researching
[quote]Are you seriously......SERIOUSLY.....fucking saying that Saddam's dicatorship was a good thing?[/quote]
No.
you think I am because it insinuates your wrong and your infinitesimal sized brain can't comprehend that
[quote]What? Where the fuck are you getting this shit at? Do you have Dyslexia?[/quote]
Well no, I don't have trouble writing, I'm good
I'm getting it from you, either you're retarded and making the whole Iraq war superficial, or you're telling me otherwise
[quote]Who said they did? You started this when you said "you mean those silly little brown people that are being oppressed by Americans?". Which is of course, your euphemism for terrorists. Which is why I brought of the subway bombings of Madrid and London, the bus bombing of London, and the hotel SHOOTING in India.[/quote]
I'm talking about Iraq as a whole, not just religous sects. you keep bringing it up
I suspect you don't type your posts
do you ask your dog to do it?
[quote]If Nortern Ireland was home to a massive terror organization that plotted attacks around the globe and were responsible for the deaths of several hundred thousand, then yes.[/quote]
uh
the IRA?
welp, time for America to invade my northern neighbours
[quote]I didn't read the article nor did I ever respond to the article. I really don't get why you keep bringing this up. My statement was not a reply to the article.[/quote]
the article proved you wrong, you should probably glance at it
[QUOTE]Go back to WW2. If there was a building you needed to destroy, you dropped hundreds of bombs on the general location. [/QUOTE]
ok...
[QUOTE]Go to Afganistan. There is a building you need destroyed. You shoot a laser guided missile from an unmanned flying airplane and hit the building. Not the building next to it, the cars next to it, the school next to it, the house next to it, etc.[/QUOTE]
expolsions are magically contained to where you want it to be?
GOLLY gee wilikers, this fancy new tech sure iz sumthin
[QUOTE]The point of the drones and laser guided bombs is that they are more efficient at doing less collateral damage than dropping a coventional dumb bomb on the general area of the target. If all the drones were equipped with dumb bombs, then the number of civillian deaths would sky rocket into the orbit of Jupiter.[/QUOTE]
again, statistically, which is stated in the article, you're dead wrong
so uh
read the fucking article
[quote]Says the guy who thinks that the Shia and Sunni only hate each other because a country was founded 1200 years after the first conflict they had.[/QUOTE]
see above, we're talking about Iraq bro
I originally said you were 14
I take that back
that's WAYYYYY too old for you
[QUOTE=Galenus;19719699]take the train[/QUOTE]
Because there's completely a train between my home and every point around my home that I need to get to.
My good sir, the only traincar within 15 miles of my house is an antique sitting in a home and garden center.
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19719625]Oh really
Show me the reduced gas prices
OH WAIT, I'm still paying $2.95 per gallon.[/QUOTE]
haha
yeah ok, KBR TOTALLY doesn't have the oil fields fucking locked down and ORHA DOES NOT have the oil fields near Fallujah and Baghdad on their list of high priority protected targets
splode, you've showed yourself to be too pathetic to post, so go away
[editline]08:10AM[/editline]
and you're like 10, what are you doing driving
[QUOTE=Splode a Pinga;19719727]Because there's completely a train between my home and every point around my home that I need to get to.
My good sir, the only traincar within 15 miles of my house is an antique sitting in a home and garden center.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, then. I've lived in the city my entire life so I kinda take mass transit for granted.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;19719668]You seriously have nothing to do than to rant and bitch on some internet forum about how everyone around that site is "stupid", "dumb", "retarded", etc. ?
Why do you even come to this forum if everyone you meet here has such an amazingly low brain span compared to your righteous, genius mind?[/QUOTE]
it's cute... you're literally a running joke and you don't see it
wow
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719735]splode, you've showed yourself to be too pathetic to post, so go away[/quote]
Yet another 'hurr ye be stoop1d leave now plawx' post.
[quote]and you're like 10, what are you doing driving[/QUOTE]
I'm 17.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19719700]No seriously, we're talking about Iraq
Iraq
[IMG]http://www.kentlaw.edu/perritt/courses/civpro/1-17-05ColorizedIraqMap.jpg[/IMG]
You link to wikipedia articles, that's not expert researching
No.
you think I am because it insinuates your wrong and your infinitesimal sized brain can't comprehend that
Well no, I don't have trouble writing, I'm good
I'm getting it from you, either you're retarded and making the whole Iraq war superficial, or you're telling me otherwise
I'm talking about Iraq as a whole, not just religous sects. you keep bringing it up
I suspect you don't type your posts
do you ask your dog to do it?
uh
the IRA?
welp, time for America to invade my northern neighbours
the article proved you wrong, you should probably glance at it
ok...
expolsions are magically contained to where you want it to be?
GOLLY gee wilikers, this fancy new tech sure iz sumthin
again, statistically, which is stated in the article, you're dead wrong
so uh
read the fucking article
see above, we're talking about Iraq bro
I originally said you were 14
I take that back
that's WAYYYYY too old for you[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;19719668]You seriously have nothing to do than to rant and bitch on some internet forum about how everyone around that site is "stupid", "dumb", "retarded", etc. ?
Why do you even come to this forum if everyone you meet here has such an amazingly low brain span compared to your righteous, genius mind?[/QUOTE]
.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;19719752].[/QUOTE]
What he said
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