'I'm done': 'Rambo' killer finally SURRENDERS in woman's front yard after going on shooting rampage
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[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;45018517]And the entire them they where sending them carrier pigeons that said "Sorry, Eh."[/QUOTE]
In WW1, four carrier pigeons were sent to send messages to the front and landed in a trench of Canadians. They ate three of them and sent the last one home with a thank-you note.
This entire incident made the RCMP look like a bunch of pushovers, I doubt they would have been able to hit the wide side of a barn.
I hope it at least sparks a debate over the RCMP.
[editline]6th June 2014[/editline]
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Why is my post getting so many informative ratings? :v:
sorry for being so informative guys
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;45018588]Why is he being compared to Rambo? Really...just call him cop killer and be done with it. Giving him cute names doesn't help the situation.[/QUOTE]
yeah, it's bad enough that the media gives spree killers/mass murderers as much coverage as they do, linking one to a character whom most people view as a hero figure seems tasteless
[QUOTE=joshuadim;45019849]Why is my post getting so many informative ratings? :v:
sorry for being so informative guys[/QUOTE]
well you kinda said "if this person had carried on shooting people dead, more people would have been shot dead"
[QUOTE=Tobba;45019218]This entire incident made the RCMP look like a bunch of pushovers, I doubt they would have been able to hit the wide side of a barn.
I hope it at least sparks a debate over the RCMP.
[editline]6th June 2014[/editline]
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Yes, let's totally keep our weaponry down at all times when searching for the suspect whose heavily armed and has murdered three of our RCMP units. [I]Totally[/I].
The RCMP are trained in using their firearms. You're just showing one image of a RCMP officer and thinking that the whole rest act the same way.
--bip---
The mounties always get their man.
From reading his fb his posts aren't that far off from A LOT of conservative right wing gun nuts. Don't get me wrong, I love firearms, but there's a difference between intelligent debate and discussion and posting conspiracy theories. He's like that one friend on Facebook that almost every American has who always posts sensationalist bs about Obama and FEMA and that stupid picture of the family of duck dynasty praying. God damn
Man, this has got to be the first case of a gunman surrendering that I've heard of in my lifetime.
It's kind of an odd thought, really.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;45022365]Man, this has got to be the first case of a gunman surrendering that I've heard of in my lifetime.
It's kind of an odd thought, really.[/QUOTE]
Brevik surrendered.
[QUOTE=TheAlkaline;45021665]Yes, let's totally keep our weaponry down at all times when searching for the suspect whose heavily armed and has murdered three of our RCMP units. [I]Totally[/I].
The RCMP are trained in using their firearms. You're just showing one image of a RCMP officer and thinking that the whole rest act the same way.[/QUOTE]
That is not how you hold a shotgun. If there was someone in the back of that truck and he needed to fire then that shotgun would go flying and the officer would likely sustain injuries.
[QUOTE=Tobba;45019218]
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What the hell is he doing?
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;45025133]What the hell is he doing?[/QUOTE]
Wanting to get his finger ripped off and pelted with glass shards.
[QUOTE=Kigen;45024721]That is not how you hold a shotgun. If there was someone in the back of that truck and he needed to fire then that shotgun would go flying and the officer would likely sustain injuries.[/QUOTE]
That is actually how you hold full size shotgun in close quarters, and no it won't just go flying out of your hand.
Source: I'm a Marine
[QUOTE=TheAlkaline;45017661]rofl Police state?! [I]Canada?![/I] You've gotta' be kidding me.[/QUOTE]
We don't have most Newspapers reading what Harper does.
And to be fair he has done some [B]pretty totalitarian shit, using his majority as leverage.[/B]
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;45026284]We don't have most Newspapers reading what Harper does.
And to be fair he has done some [B]pretty totalitarian shit, using his majority as leverage.[/B][/QUOTE]
As has every majority.
The whole "police state" mentality, especially if this guy was a gun owner, likely stems from the way the RCMP administers the firearms system here, and in particular few recent incidents where the RCMP decided to prohibit guns that had been legal here for decades without getting parliament's consent, hence creating approximately 16,000-20,000 criminals overnight. Parliament was forced to declare an amnesty while they figured out what to do. Then there's the Chief Firearms Offices of each province and how they apply the Firearm Act, and each one applies it in a different fashion, meaning the law is inconsistent between provinces, and this inconsistency can lead to jail time and a criminal record if one CFO's arbitrary decision in one province is not followed. This is the only case I know of where a federal law is applied differently in each province, but carries with it the full federal force of the justice system and a threat of jail time. The police, and especially the RCMP, are no friends of gun owners, and at times they go out of their way to make things difficult for gun owners.
While calling it a police state is definitely going too far, the RCMP has been doing things that are fairly despicable, and that could at times even be called undemocratic, though most people either don't hear about it, don't care, or don't agree with my posted opinion of it because it doesn't affect them. Though the RCMP, and parliament, are both facing significant backlash over it.
[QUOTE=Tobba;45019218]This entire incident made the RCMP look like a bunch of pushovers, I doubt they would have been able to hit the wide side of a barn.
I hope it at least sparks a debate over the RCMP.
[editline]6th June 2014[/editline]
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Correct me if the flag thing on facepunch is wrong and you are not actually Swedish, but I don't know where you get off saying these things. Debate over the RCMP? How did it make them look like pushovers? Cops get shot sometimes, its a risk of the job, and they caught the guy with no further casualties. Contrary to popular belief, most police forces aren't ready offhand to be ambushed by a dude armed to the teeth and willing to fire without any provocation.
Seems like completely uninformed bullshit just trying to start something.
[QUOTE=Smeetin;45026573]Correct me if the flag thing on facepunch is wrong and you are not actually Swedish, but I don't know where you get off saying these things. Debate over the RCMP? How did it make them look like pushovers? Cops get shot sometimes, its a risk of the job, and they caught the guy with no further casualties. Contrary to popular belief, most police forces aren't ready offhand to be ambushed by a dude armed to the teeth and willing to fire without any provocation.
Seems like completely uninformed bullshit just trying to start something.[/QUOTE]
He's probably saying it because the guy evaded arrest for 30 hours after shooting 3 officers and then, rather than the officers find him, he came out and willingly surrendered to them.
I can see how some people would view it as the RCMP being "pushovers," to use his words, but really there's nothing else they could have done that they didn't already do during this incident. They did everything they could, and one way or another they caught the guy.
I'd much spark a debate on how the RCMP is impossibly corrupt and often literally above the law than criticize their response to this whackjobs shootings
[editline]7th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;45026284]We don't have most Newspapers reading what Harper does.
And to be fair he has done some [B]pretty totalitarian shit, using his majority as leverage.[/B][/QUOTE]
Hello welcome to parliamentary majority governments
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;45026745]He's probably saying it because the guy evaded arrest for 30 hours after shooting 3 officers and then, rather than the officers find him, he came out and willingly surrendered to them.[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly, the RCMP surrounded the guy and was telling him to give himself up and then he did.
[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/justin-bourque-moncton-shooting-suspect-in-police-custody-1.2666921[/url]
[QUOTE]Thibodeau said she saw police officers head into a patch of trees in her yard and heard five minutes of screaming.
“Justin came out with his hands up, and he said, 'I'm done,'" she told CBC News.[/QUOTE]
and another source about how thy found him [url]http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/surveillance-aircraft-played-key-role-in-bourque-search/article19059589/?click=sf_globefb#dashboard/follows/[/url]
[QUOTE=Tobba;45019218]
I hope it at least sparks a debate over the RCMP.
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A well trained police force thats held to a high standard by society and the government.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45027867]A well trained police force thats held to a high standard by society and the government.[/QUOTE]
TBH it's not held to as high a standard as it should be. They've been involved in a number of scandals across the country, and there's the internal mentality amongst cops to not report wrongdoings inside the force by other cops. The RCMP does need to be looked at, but not because of this.
Found it interesting that on global news tonight they were careful not to even say anything about gun control at all and even said "it's just a semi auto rifle, a common one".
Then an NDP rep said "we have to decide now if we need more laws or to tighten the ones we already got."
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