[QUOTE=ConArtist;44682060]no, the annual cost of incarceration, on average, per federal inmate, is ~$27,000
it costs ~$1,600 to execute an inmate by lethal injection, not counting the court fees and judicial review.
we would save millions of taxpayers more money by killing people on death row faster.
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a rope and a tree are re-usable though[/QUOTE]
Innocent people are already killed by the death penalty due to bad trials or missed evidence. You want to increase that number just to save money in order to execute even more people?
[QUOTE=hexpunK;44682131]You lose, was it worth it?[/QUOTE]
[I]woosh[/I]
[QUOTE=hexpunK;44682139]lmao aren't you a smart cookie.
Please, give me some legitimate arguments, you can't forfeit the right to life, so that's not one.[/QUOTE]
Oh ok..uhm...
If you rape and murder an infant, you are a piece of shit and no longer have an un-alienable right to life?
What if it was your child?
Guranteed you wouldn't be shedding tears for these criminals.
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[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;44682146][I]woosh[/I][/QUOTE]
I know it wasn't legit. Christ, give me some credit, I'm not being serious with that reply either.
[QUOTE=Berque-IL;44682160]Oh ok..uhm...
If you rape and murder an infant you are a piece of shit and no longer have an un-alienable right to life?[/QUOTE]
no haha he can be rehabilitated right guys?
[QUOTE=Berque-IL;44682160]Oh ok..uhm...
If you rape and murder an infant you are a piece of shit and no longer have an un-alienable right to life?[/QUOTE]
Nope, that was a "forfeit right to life" one. Not allowed those.
However yes, if you rape and murder and infant you are an unbelievable piece of shit. But what does killing you do for us? A false sense of "justice"? Petty revenge?
[QUOTE=Berque-IL;44682160]Oh ok..uhm...
If you rape and murder an infant you are a piece of shit and no longer have an un-alienable right to life?[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inalienable]inalienable: impossible to take away or give up[/url]
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Yes rate disagree even though I linked you to the fucking definition.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;44682132]Anybody who legitimately thinks murdering someone to punish them for murder makes any kind of logical sense is doing some gold-medal worthy mental gymnastics.[/QUOTE]
No, it's pretty simple. If you've deliberately taken a life, then you don't deserve to live.
[QUOTE=Explosions;44682168][url=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inalienable]inalienable: impossible to take away or give up[/url]
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Yes rate disagree even though I linked you to the fucking definition.[/QUOTE]
You also have an inalienable right to liberty and the persuit of happiness in the U.S. That means any jail or prison sentence is un-constitutional......
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44682190]You also have an inalienable right to liberty and the persuit of happiness in the U.S. That means any jail or prison sentence is un-constitutional......[/QUOTE]
Where does the "inalienable right to liberty and the persuit of happiness" appear in the constitution?
[QUOTE=Kebab;44681880]I'd rather have something like that neck breaker apparatus from Cloud Atlas.
Rather than lethal injection anyway.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure it's just a pneumatic piston. They use them on cattle.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44682190]You also have an inalienable right to liberty and the persuit of happiness in the U.S. That means any jail or prison sentence is un-constitutional......[/QUOTE]
It's in the Declaration of Independence. Not the Constitution.
I read this as Obama fucks up execution of prisoner.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;44681974]Only one person in a firing squad has live ammo, and none of the soldiers in the line know who.[/QUOTE]
In the US it's only one blank round.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Lee_Gardner#Execution[/URL]
I always assumed they did them outside, but apparently in Utah at least it's in the same room as the lethal injection platform.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Escape_by_Death.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=aydin690;44682187]No, it's pretty simple. If you've deliberately taken a life, then you don't deserve to live.[/QUOTE]
Why
gotta say...this is why hanging is much more humane...
especially today when we could probably pin down exactly how much force it would take to break a guy's neck
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;44682283]Why[/QUOTE]
Why does someone who has done something so terrible deserve to not only continue living but also essentially steal $ from the people who did nothing wrong?
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;44682283]Why[/QUOTE]
if you're asking that then you won't ever be able to understand the reason
the death penalty is just as split a topic as the pro-life/choice argument
Actually, who am I kidding? Capital punishment is a great facet of the justice system. Just look at all these other progressive countries that make use of the death penalty alongside America:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment#Contemporary_use[/URL]
[IMG]http://oi61.tinypic.com/smx8oo.jpg[/IMG]
God bless
[QUOTE=be;44682318]Why does someone who has done something so terrible deserve to not only continue living but also essentially steal $ from the people who did nothing wrong?[/QUOTE]
Because we're not a barbaric people who think an eye for an eye is a good justice system?
[video=youtube;pW1WXduQHic]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW1WXduQHic[/video]
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[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;44682321]Actually, who am I kidding? Capital punishment is a great facet of the justice system. Just look at all these other progressive countries that make use of the death penalty alongside America:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment#Contemporary_use[/URL]
[IMG]http://oi61.tinypic.com/smx8oo.jpg[/IMG]
God bless[/QUOTE]
goddamn it
[QUOTE=Matthew7434;44681813]One of them [B]RAPED AND MURDERED A ELEVEN MONTH OLD BABY[/B]
Another one [B]SHOT A WOMAN AND BURIED HER ALIVE[/B][/QUOTE]
And than we learn that he was innocent after killing him. Its happened before.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44682357]And than we learn that he was innocent after killing him. Its happened before.[/QUOTE]
He has confessed to it and at the time of shooting there were two other people there, another woman and a child.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;44682321]Actually, who am I kidding? Capital punishment is a great facet of the justice system. Just look at all these other progressive countries that make use of the death penalty alongside America:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment#Contemporary_use[/URL]
[IMG]http://oi61.tinypic.com/smx8oo.jpg[/IMG]
God bless[/QUOTE]
except the U.S. justice system for all its worth, has tons and tons of checks in place and we don't execute political prisoners, just murderers
now there have been instances where the system has been shown to be false, but as a whole we do have functional system
If you acknowledge that it is possible to make a mistake and execute an innocent person, and you still believe that capital punishment should be practiced, then there must be some number of innocent people that is acceptable to be killed. Otherwise, the number would be zero and you would be against capital punishment. So my question for capital punishment supporters is what is the number? How many innocents can be killed until it becomes unacceptable?
[QUOTE=Explosions;44682400]If you acknowledge that it is possible to make a mistake and execute an innocent person, and you still believe that capital punishment should be practiced, then there must be some number of innocent people that is acceptable to be killed. Otherwise, the number would be zero and you would be against capital punishment. So my question for capital punishment supporters is what is the number? How many innocents can be killed until it becomes unacceptable?[/QUOTE]
There are statistical outliers in everything.
[QUOTE=aydin690;44682413]There are statistical outliers in everything.[/QUOTE]
So you do acknowledge that innocent death occur?
What is the number then? What is the margin of error before for these "outliers" become too many?
[QUOTE=aydin690;44682413]There are statistical outliers in everything.[/QUOTE]
That has no relevance. Statistical outliers here are innocent lives lost for zero reason. Even with something like a 99.999% accurate record, its still innocent people being killed. If we see murder as such an abhorrent crime, why is it fine for us to commit murder in the name of "justice"?
[QUOTE=Sableye;44682387]
now there have been instances where the system has been shown to be false, but as a whole we do have functional system[/QUOTE]
You do realize that the criminal justice system in the United States is really fucked up, right?
[QUOTE=aydin690;44682386]He has confessed to it and at the time of shooting there were two other people there, another woman and a child.[/QUOTE]
I know, this guy probably did commit his crime.
Allowing the execution of a criminal allows for a system where innocents will be killed.
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