[QUOTE=AK'z;37588602]well there already is a moon soundtrack:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDIDuGbZSk[/media]
but I'd rather have something funky played if I were on the moon.[/QUOTE]
Meh.. doesn't sound very moony to me.
[QUOTE=Zeraxify;37587894]1. end all wars
2. increase nasa's budget
3. explore the galaxy
4. find intelligent life
5. star wars[/QUOTE]
fixed.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;37587921]Didn't John Kennedy encourage space travel too?[/QUOTE]Sherlock.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;37588271]But weren't there already people on the moon?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but not for 40 years.
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[QUOTE=AK'z;37588549]moon rock has no value whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me you're joking:
[url]http://gawker.com/5804617/woman-busted-for-selling-17-million-moon-rock-on-ebay[/url]
Well then I hope he increases NASA's budget if he really is this committed.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;37588869]
[url]http://gawker.com/5804617/woman-busted-for-selling-17-million-moon-rock-on-ebay[/url][/QUOTE]
Undercover NASA agents? I know what I want to be now!
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;37588869]
Please tell me you're joking:
[url]http://gawker.com/5804617/woman-busted-for-selling-17-million-moon-rock-on-ebay[/url][/QUOTE]
it was a semi-joke.
And I didn't mean e-bay value.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;37588869]Yes, but not for 40 years.
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Please tell me you're joking:
[url]http://gawker.com/5804617/woman-busted-for-selling-17-million-moon-rock-on-ebay[/url][/QUOTE]
Yeah, I am going to say he was joking since he was associating moon rock with rock and roll... Glad you cleared that up for us.
I feel like all of this stuff Obama is saying recently is EXACTLY what he did 4 years ago to get elected...
He says something to PLEASE EVERYONE and then when he gets elected just forgets about it.
When he was first starting out he said he wanted to stop off shore drilling (to please far left democrats and what not) well after a while in office he now thinks we need to drill off shore.
The same for nuclear power.
I want to believe that this was us witnessing him learning throughout his presidency that there are some things that you can't just take a side on. You have to think through them and all of that.
I am afraid though, that it was a case of him saying something to please everyone to get the votes and then just not doing what he was saying.
[QUOTE=Bobie;37587965][img]http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chtt=NASA%20budget%20Vs.%20Military%20budget&chs=740x275&chco=0e3bef,ff0f0f&chd=t:1.8,98.2&cht=p3&chl=2010%20NASA%20budget|2010%20Military%20budget[/img][/QUOTE]
That pacman is [I]not[/I] amused.
YOU DIRTY LIAR WE COULD OF HAD CONSTELLATION
AHHHH
[QUOTE=Ban Evader;37587436]Does this mean moonbase alpha 2 if obama gets elected?[/QUOTE]
"JOHN MADDEN!"
"JOHN MADDEN!"
"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..."
[QUOTE=Cabbage;37587770]I'm not hugely knowledgeable about the subject, but in my opinion putting a man on the moon again would be kind of a waste, what have we got to learn from the moon that we didn't cover back in '69? Back then there was huge pressure to do so ('Space Race' etc.) but now there isn't really a reason for going back there. Instead, we should put our efforts into getting a man on Mars, asay.[/QUOTE]
Putting a man on the moon back then was to prove we could do it and basic geography and geological records, today if we put man on the moon in a base they will learn more about the moons history, help mankind learn what it takes to survive out there easier than doing the first time on mars. Also resource mining and radio telescopes with no interference.
Obama said the mooon was old news so go to mars, he knew exactly that he could then cut the budget as work for that wouldn't be in his presidency.
only gripe with him that I really have
Is space exploration really worth it? DARPA comes up with the cool shit anyway and they're protecting us at the same time.
I'd be for slimming our military out a bit and put the money into NASA instead. Just look in your house at all the shit that owes its existence in part to NASA. Thousands of things, some as simple as the insulation in your house, cell phone camera technology, to cutting machines firemen use to shit that clears landmines. All of these things have earned more money commercially over the last few years than NASA spent in the last 10
Do we need 11 aircraft carriers? or maintain 20 2 Billion dollar B-2 bombers that are so expensive we're afraid to use, that require climate controlled hangers and who knows how much money in parts and other maintenance? Halve the Fleet, dump the B-2's, and send the cash to NASA
Combine the budgets and make this beast.
[IMG]http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/10/9011/thumb_620x2000/1280x1024.jpg[/IMG]
A little bit outdated but still kind of fits.
[video=youtube;N-NkX86uPI0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-NkX86uPI0[/video]
[QUOTE=Downsider;37589181]Is space exploration really worth it? DARPA comes up with the cool shit anyway and they're protecting us at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Exploring, possibly settling other worlds > ways to kill other dudes more efficiently
[QUOTE=Scar;37589270]Exploring, possibly settling other worlds > ways to kill other dudes more efficiently[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, because you know, pouring money into NASA is really going to help our economy and the problems that are really hitting home right now.
[QUOTE=Downsider;37589378]Oh yeah, because you know, pouring money into NASA is really going to help our economy and the problems that are really hitting home right now.[/QUOTE]
And killing people would?
NASA returns every dollar it received and more some with all the work and research it creates.
[QUOTE=Squad;37588987]Yeah, I am going to say he was joking since he was associating moon rock with rock and roll... Glad you cleared that up for us.
I feel like all of this stuff Obama is saying recently is EXACTLY what he did 4 years ago to get elected...
He says something to PLEASE EVERYONE and then when he gets elected just forgets about it.
When he was first starting out he said he wanted to stop off shore drilling (to please far left democrats and what not) well after a while in office he now thinks we need to drill off shore.
The same for nuclear power.
I want to believe that this was us witnessing him learning throughout his presidency that there are some things that you can't just take a side on. You have to think through them and all of that.
I am afraid though, that it was a case of him saying something to please everyone to get the votes and then just not doing what he was saying.[/QUOTE]
When you're running for president, you have a few key things you like to push and talk about, and you have set goals. But when you take office, and you inherit every bit of work that comes with the position, your priorities are going to change. Not only is it a job swamped with work focusing on different issues, big and small, but you're dealing with a hellish nightmare of bureaucracy that makes a lot of things nearly impossible to get done, especially within a 4 year span. That's why it's so interesting to see people blaming Obama for things not getting done, when such things can't be expected with so many limitations in place.
Do politicians tout things that eventually fall on the back burner or get switched completely? Yes, but we also need to understand that not only do priorities change once you take office, but so can perspective.
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;37589473]And killing people would?NASA returns every dollar it received and more some with all the work and research it creates.[/QUOTE] To me, the billion-dollar rockets and space stations that are sent up there are worthless in every practical respect, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.If you're saying that we need to colonize other planets in order to be successful as a human collective, then please point to the nearest (theoretically) hospitable planet that won't take 1000+ years to get to at in a vehicle that's 25 times faster than the spacecrafts we have today.
[QUOTE=Downsider;37589704]To me, the billion-dollar rockets and space stations that are sent up there are worthless in every practical respect, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming you know all the research that is done on the space station, and all the research NASA does in general, and their effect on our society, since you have such a definitive standpoint on their worth.
[QUOTE=Downsider;37589378]Oh yeah, because you know, pouring money into NASA is really going to help our economy and the problems that are really hitting home right now.[/QUOTE]
This argument will always be made, for 1000 years
"Forget space right now, we need to focus on education/the economy/security/infrastructure"
It's a great way to never go to space
[QUOTE=Bentham;37589730]I'm assuming you know all the research that is done on the space station, and all the research NASA does in general, and their effect on our society, since you have such a definitive standpoint on their worth.[/QUOTE] Frankly I don't see how any aeronautics and space-related research, which is primarily what you can assume they're doing, is going to help anybody in the next few dozen centuries.
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[QUOTE=smurfy;37589750]This argument will always be made, for 1000 years"Forget space right now, we need to focus on education/the economy/security/infrastructure"It's a great way to never go to space[/QUOTE] The problem in my mind is the money and manpower : practical application of research ratio is completely out of balance. Who cares if we never "go to space"? All of our problems are grounded on Earth.If we didn't go to the moon during the space race, would your life be any different?
[QUOTE=Downsider;37589704]To me, the billion-dollar rockets and space stations that are sent up there are worthless in every practical respect, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.If you're saying that we need to colonize other planets in order to be successful as a human collective, then please point to the nearest (theoretically) hospitable planet that won't take 1000+ years to get to at in a vehicle that's 25 times faster than the spacecrafts we have today.[/QUOTE]
NASA research has led to innovations that actually affect us you know.
Baby formulas
Improved radial tires
Artificial Heart Pump
[B]Rescue equipment for accident victims[/B]
video stabilization software
insulation for your home
LEDs
Aircraft Anti-Icing Systems
Solar energy
improved mining safety
improved food safety
But yeah it's all worthless.
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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies[/url]
[url]http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/topics/ten-nasa-inventions.htm[/url]
[url]http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/nasa-inventions[/url]
[url]http://space.about.com/od/toolsequipment/ss/apollospinoffs.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Downsider;37589181]Is space exploration really worth it? DARPA comes up with the cool shit anyway and they're protecting us at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Weaponised lasers and rail guns are cool and all, but those are useless in everyday terms compared with stuff NASA has developed, like freeze dried food, advances in solar power and water purification, fire fighting equipment, structural analysis techniques and teflon. Most of the advances I know of that DARPA's made with any kind of use to normal people are all electronics stuff.
[QUOTE=Bentham;37589781][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies[/url]
[url]http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/topics/ten-nasa-inventions.htm[/url]
[url]http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/nasa-inventions[/url]
[url]http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/nasa-inventions[/url][/QUOTE]
Oh, I'm wrong about teflon
[QUOTE=Rents;37589816]Oh, I'm wrong about teflon[/QUOTE]
At least you try to understand what you're talking about before you start typing. Credit where credit is due.
[QUOTE=Downsider;37589761]Frankly I don't see how any aeronautics and space-related research, which is primarily what you can assume they're doing, is going to help anybody in the next few dozen centuries.[/QUOTE]
"Space is dumb, fund darpa to kill our enemies"
besides teaching and learning about the universe in which we live, besides fucking living in space, giving a future to the planet that no one dreamed of, here you go
[url]http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/topics/ten-nasa-inventions.htm[/url]
[url]http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/inventions/top-5-nasa-inventions.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/5893387/Apollo-11-moon-landing-top-15-Nasa-inventions.html[/url]
[url]http://bmseifert.com/importance-of-nasa/[/url]
"NASA’s importance as a national priority is great. It inspires and motivates American students to study math, science, and engineering, expands our knowledge of physics, chemistry, biology, psychology, economics, geography, and oceanography, develops unimaginable technologies, promotes international teamwork with a healthy amount of competition, and unites a nation under a common passion and history for exploration of the unknown. We were once afraid of what may have been beyond the edge of the ocean. Now we’ve become curious about what lies beyond the edge of the universe, and NASA’s journey to explore our reality has so far improved our quality of life, improved our technological advantages, and solidified our defenses against national threats."
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[QUOTE=Downsider;37589378]Oh yeah, because you know, pouring money into NASA is really going to help our economy and the problems that are really hitting home right now.[/QUOTE]
tell me again how the ~15 billion NASA receives a year is wasted, while the US military has 20 billion wasted on air conditioning units in Afghanistan
or a 20 million dollar helicopter or missile
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