[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;21709751]No, i'm saying the .50cal is a heavier bullet propelled faster, deadly at long range still but highly unlikely to get a kill shot accurately. The bullet falls at 10M/s due to gravity, Over a kilometer, that's 100M, so 3km=300m, so with the 838m/s fast muzzle velocity, it would hit the ground unless you shoot at an obscure angle.
not that that's the reason there are no longest kill shots with .22's, because that's a weak round.[/QUOTE]
It's been ages since I thought about this so I might not be remembering right, but school level science taught us that if you disregard wind resistance heavy and light objects fall at the same speed. The extra falling wind resistance of the bigger bullet would be pretty negligible compared to the smaller bullet, so in terms of droppage there would be very little difference between the two, except the 50.cal would have more momentum when it reached it's target?
[QUOTE=Zeraux;21712950]That's goddamn far away.
But I thought the Intervention was the longest range sniper available?[/QUOTE]
Nah. Barret has 300m more effective range.
Then there's .50 russian, 14.7mm, 20mm etc. and shitload of wildcats inbetween.
The spotter of his must've had some mad hax uberleet skills to call those shots in.
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[QUOTE=Tucks;21713430]It's been ages since I thought about this so I might not be remembering right, but school level science taught us that if you disregard wind resistance heavy and light objects fall at the same speed. The extra falling wind resistance of the bigger bullet would be pretty negligible compared to the smaller bullet, so in terms of droppage there would be very little difference between the two, except the 50.cal would have more momentum when it reached it's target?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Plus Bullet is not as big as your hand. .50 is the size of your fingertip.
[QUOTE=broo20;21711411]Hmm... I'm betting that you're not an American, probably someone of the Christian faith, sheltered by your parents and are still in adolescense. Riddle me this, how accepted are women in the Islam/Muslim/Middle Eastern culture/faith? Probably treated terribly, again, I can only assume as I am neither Muslim nor Female, and how accepted are women in the American culture? Sure every now and then there are court cases about a woman in America not getting a job because she is Female, but those are usually people being to proud and not accepting that someone else can do the job better than them. Now let me tell you something that I learned when I went to the Middle East for school, Women CANNOT get jobs there, if a Female is molested there they are the ones charged. Very often women are killed because they disobey and it's just ignored. And may I point out that most of the civilians shot by soldiers of any country usually run into a crossfire while they are panicking, most of the civilians that are actually killed in warzones are actually by the Taliban setting up bombs and IEDs and killing people somewhat accidentally and the other bits are where the taliban/US soldiers simply fire into a house that they think that the Enemy are holed up in, because if they ran into a house to identify if the people in there are civillians or not, because if they do they'll probably get themselves killed. So shut up about a subject that neither of you know nothing about.[/QUOTE]
I know this guy. And he is NOT sheltered. He's not Christian (whatever that has to do with anything). Probably had a tougher life than you. I don't know why the hell you're talking about women either, that's pretty irrevelent. And also, he knows what he's talking about.
I don't know much about the subject, but I'm curious as to how you know so much about this stuff... You say you've been to the middle east, so I wonder if you actually saw this stuff? Not trying to argue here, genuinely curious. Also would like evidence supporting your claims.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;21699709]The .50 cal is heavier. so a faster fall rate even with more speed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;21709751]No, i'm saying the .50cal is a heavier bullet propelled faster, deadly at long range still but highly unlikely to get a kill shot accurately. The bullet falls at 10M/s due to gravity, Over a kilometer, that's 100M, so 3km=300m, so with the 838m/s fast muzzle velocity, it would hit the ground unless you shoot at an obscure angle.
not that that's the reason there are no longest kill shots with .22's, because that's a weak round.[/QUOTE]
The velocity of the bullet drop isn't constant :downs:, it's accelerated due to the force of gravity working on the bullet. It starts at 0 (assuming you point the gun horizontally), then accelerates downwards at roughly 10m/s^2. If you disregard the force of air resistance and buoyancy, then every bullet should drop at the same rate.
The important thing here is the horizontal velocity of the bullet, which is constant if you disregard air resistance. Any bullet will drop 5m after the first second of the flight, but the faster the bullet is, the longer distance it will travel in this one second, thus making the trajectory flatter.
Reminds me of these bad motherfuckers from Red Alert 2.
[img]http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/7464/820058-abritish_sniper_super.gif[/img]
This guy makes me proud to be English
Agreed. That and the Challenger 2 tank XD
[QUOTE=pebkac;21714178]The velocity of the bullet drop isn't constant :downs:, it's accelerated due to the force of gravity working on the bullet. It starts at 0 (assuming you point the gun horizontally), then accelerates downwards at roughly 10m/s^2. If you disregard the force of air resistance and buoyancy, then every bullet should drop at the same rate.
The important thing here is the horizontal velocity of the bullet, which is constant if you disregard air resistance. Any bullet will drop 5m after the first second of the flight, but the faster the bullet is, the longer distance it will travel in this one second, thus making the trajectory flatter.[/QUOTE]
"Almost" three seconds of flight still means 20-45 meters of falling.
A fraction of what he was suggesting but yeah still you're aiming ridiculously high
[QUOTE=ThePuska;21714765]"Almost" three seconds of flight still means 20-45 meters of falling.
A fraction of what he was suggesting but yeah still you're aiming ridiculously high[/QUOTE]
Disregarding any air resistance and buoyancy crap, It would have dropped 44.9 meters, but at that distance you have to factor every possible effect in, so that isn't really precise.
Impressive
:golfclap:
[QUOTE=RedBlade2021;21698325]This is one bad ass right here.[/QUOTE]
Yeh, damn fucking straight, it reminds me of when a British guy and his squad ran out of ammo, so the leader fixed a bayonet and charged the taliban, he killed both of them and walked away with a medal.
I really doubt that this was the longest distance kill ever made with a rifle.
The problem with long distance kills is that they don't "count" unless they are confirmed, which means going up to the bodies and confirming that they are dead. The longest shots are done from such distances for a reason, they can't get in close to take out the target.
So I have no doubt that countless special forces snipers from many different countries have pulled off shots much longer than this one, they just weren't able to confirm the kills so it is never counted as a record. Even if the kill was confirmed, the missions tend to be secret, so they aren't going to tell the public about it.
[QUOTE=Hezzy;21714278]This guy makes me proud to be English[/QUOTE]
This guy makes me glad I'm across the ocean from him.
[QUOTE=Warhol;21698973]
I agree, it is a morbid talent, but doesn't make it a GOOD talent. And most certainly not "badass".[/QUOTE]
Please GTFO, that's entirely subjective. We praise elite combat athletes like world class boxers for their ability to maim another man - see? You can break anything down to it's bare basics. As to whether it's "good" or not, that's entirely subjective.
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[QUOTE=MaverickIB;21720427]I really doubt that this was the longest distance kill ever made with a rifle.
[/QUOTE]
Irrelevant. Read the title again: New longest distance kill [B]record[/B]
I.E the longest [B]recorded[/B] kill.
[QUOTE=d3450;21699943]Double kill is an extra 50xp.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the marksman headshot bonus.
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[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21726352]This guy makes me glad I'm across the ocean from him.[/QUOTE]
Well he could probably hit you from there anyway.
"Conditions were perfect, no wind, mild weather, clear visibility."
Sounds like he only had 1 axis to aim on
What the fuck is this shit!
Damn, us Canadians are going to have to do something about this. Rob Furlong better not stand for this.
brb joining the army
[QUOTE=JDK721;21710371]they are better trained[/QUOTE]
Pretty blanket statement there. British troops are better trained in certain areas, American troops are superior in others. As far as light infantry goes, the commonwealth nations, especially Britain and Australia, are regarded as having some of the best Inf training. America still has the best mechanized training however.
The problem with training in the US Army and USMC is consistency. I think due to the size and influx of new recruits, there's no consistency in training standards between units, which is why if you look at combat videos, you'll go from one video displaying a very professional, well trained unit, to another video displaying a unit with abysmal training.
Reminds me of the scene from Wanted with the guy that shot extremely long-distance
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;21726647] I think due to the size of new recruits,[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs499.ash1/27240_387956232014_576387014_4439907_3983158_n.jpg[/IMG]
Yep
[QUOTE=JDK721;21710371]they are better trained[/QUOTE]
We have Navy SEALS, who are like Spartan warriors on crack-cocaine. We've also got Delta Force. It's pretty cool.
There seems to be some massive division between an average soldier and a special forces soldier in the U.S. I'm not sure if it's like that in other countries, but it's pretty evident here.
[QUOTE=Dirtydiaper;21727035]We have Navy SEALS, who are like Spartan warriors on crack-cocaine. We've also got Delta Force. It's pretty cool.
There seems to be some massive division between an average soldier and a special forces soldier in the U.S. I'm not sure if it's like that in other countries, but it's pretty evident here.[/QUOTE]
*cough SAS & JTF2*
Why are you guys talking about guns and bullet velocities and fall speeds and shit when you probably have never used the gun in your life, so your only source is like...a wikipedia page.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21727836]Why are you guys talking about guns and bullet velocities and fall speeds and shit when you probably have never used the gun in your life, so your only source is like...a wikipedia page.[/QUOTE]
I like that experience = knowledge attitude some people have. It's pretty funny.
IE: "You can't know [B]anything[/B] about cancer because you've never had cancer!" :allears:
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;21727880]I like that experience = knowledge attitude some people have. It's pretty funny.
IE: "You can't know [B]anything[/B] about cancer because you've never had cancer!" :allears:[/QUOTE]
I don't think cancer is the same as a bullet's speeds and stuff, but ok.
Not to mention that wind factors tend to change all the speeds and stuff.
[QUOTE=Warhol;21698153]So this guy kills two human beings, and you kids think that's totally awesome?[/QUOTE]
The difference between murder and this is that these two human beings were about to kill other human beings. Us or them.
Not to mention the guy's track record.
[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;21726510]"Conditions were perfect, no wind, mild weather, clear visibility."
Sounds like he only had 1 axis to aim on[/QUOTE]
Even tough it was thin mountain air, clear weather, the spotter prolly had to take some time to cakculate corioli's and such.
It's never only one axis.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;21709751]The bullet falls at 10M/s due to gravity,[/QUOTE]
Everything falls at 9.8 M/S^2.
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discounting wind resistance
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21727929]I don't think cancer is the same as a bullet's speeds and stuff, but ok.
Not to mention that wind factors tend to change all the speeds and stuff.[/QUOTE]
Which do you think is more likely to be able to calculate advanced physics?
A redneck who has been shooting guns all of his life but failed highschool
An actual scientist who has never fired a gun
redneck
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