UK has spent £3m waiting for Assange to leave Ecuadorean embassy

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[QUOTE=Flyingman356;39614544]Are you serious?[/QUOTE]
Completely.

Sure there are a lot of people that approve of what Assange has done (I am one of them), but a portion of these people see fit to dispose of reality and support borderline conspiracy theories surrounding a US-Swedish-UK plot. The legal myths and misconceptions that have circulated about Assange and the case against him are concerning, mostly because they are so widespread.

No one knows if Assange is guilty of what he is accused of. That is why we have trials, so the accused can defend himself. I don't know if he is guilty, and neither do you. If the charges against Assange really were drummed up, wouldn't it make sense for Assange to go to court and prove that the charges are false?

But Assange has demanded that Sweden guarantee he won't be extradited. However, Swedish law does not allow any judicial decision, like extradition, to be predetermined. It is illegal for Sweden to make a decision, the court would be violating Swedish law. Assange is asking the impossible here. How convenient.

But that's not all, it's actually illegal for Sweden to extradite Assange to the US. This is because the US still enforces the death penalty, and Sweden cannot extradite someone to a nation where there is any risk of the death penalty. The foreign ministry of Sweden has confirmed this. There isn't any way Sweden can circumvent this, even if they wished to extradite Assange. Temporary surrender doesn't apply here, because Assange was initially arrested by the UK, and not Sweden.

Well, why hasn't Sweden interviewed Assange while he was in the Ecuadorian embassy? Ecuador offered to allow Swedish investigators to question Assange there, but Sweden refused. Why? The answer is simple. Assange is not wanted for just for questioning, he is wanted for arrest. Under Swedish law Assange can not be charged until he is arrested. The High Court of Sweden has already addressed the idea of interviewing Assange in the embassy (called Mutual Legal Assistance). This is taken straight from the High Court's decision which is openly available:
[QUOTE] 9. It is submitted on Julian Assange's behalf that it would be possible for me to interview him by way of Mutual Legal Assistance. This is not an appropriate course in Assange's case. The preliminary investigation is at an advanced stage and I consider that is necessary to interrogate Assange, in person, regarding the evidence in respect of the serious allegations made against him.
10. Once the interrogation is complete it may be that further questions need to be put to witnesses or the forensic scientists. [B]Subject to any matters said by him, which undermine my present view that he should be indicted, an indictment will be lodged with the court thereafter. It can therefore be seen that Assange is sought for the purpose of conducting criminal proceedings and that he is not sought merely to assist with our enquiries.
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i.e. they don't want to question him. Its more serious than that, they want him in court.

Unless you believe the US wields almost domineering influence over Swedish due process. An outlandish thought, to put it lightly.There is no good reason for Assange to rush into an embassy and beg for asylum. In fact, doing so makes a mockery of political asylum. Assange doesn't face torture or persecution, unlike other asylum seekers who do.

[Ralakis]

[QUOTE=thisispain;39614329]putting assange in jail doesn't stop wikileaks nor any of the people who actually uncover wikileak's content

and i still dont know whos making an example of him, the US hasn't charged him with anything, and if he really didn't do what he was charged with he'll likely not be prosecuted because these kinds of cases are difficult to prove
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Tell all of that to Pvt. Bradley Manning who has spent nearly 1050 days in a military prison awaiting trial.

It wasn't until February 2012 when he was formally arraigned. It is speculated that his trial will begin this month but others are saying July of 2013 and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if it was delayed further.

[editline]17th February 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=thisispain;39612947]uhm
curb your paranoia dude, this isn't prime time TV. The US isn't even fucking involved in this
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Pretending that the US Government doesn't want to shut this guy up is ignorant to say the absolute least and you know it. Stop brushing everyone off as a bunch of "conspiracy loons".

[video=youtube;nuYLHCvM-7s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuYLHCvM-7s[/video]

[galenmarek]

[QUOTE=Ralakis;39617994]Tell all of that to Pvt. Bradley Manning who has spent nearly 1050 days in a military prison awaiting trial.

It wasn't until February 2012 when he was formally arraigned. It is speculated that his trial will begin this month but others are saying July of 2013 and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if it was delayed further.

[editline]17th February 2013[/editline]

Pretending that the US Government doesn't want to shut this guy up is ignorant to say the absolute least and you know it. Stop brushing everyone off as a bunch of "conspiracy loons".

[video=youtube;nuYLHCvM-7s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuYLHCvM-7s[/video][/QUOTE]

Telling people to stop brushing off conspiracy crazies before posting an RT video. Really?

[SgtCr4zyGunz]

If Assange has a rape investigation pending in Sweden then why would the US want him to be extradited?

All Sweden had to do was promise not to extradite him and he would have went to court. I'm all in favor of him being investigated for the charges (even if I do think they're fishy and politically motivated) but not while the US is looking over Sweden's shoulder.

[Blackfire76]

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;39628774]If Assange has a rape investigation pending in Sweden then why would the US want him to be extradited?

All Sweden had to do was promise not to extradite him and he would have went to court. I'm all in favor of him being investigated for the charges (even if I do think they're fishy and politically motivated) but not while the US is looking over Sweden's shoulder.[/QUOTE]

People break promises.
Besides, there's an obvious option:
Question him in the embassy.

[Ralakis]

[QUOTE=galenmarek;39628666]Telling people to stop brushing off conspiracy crazies before posting an RT video. Really?[/QUOTE]

I don't give a shit what source I pull this from, this is coming from a former administration official saying that if legal action fails against Assange, he will most likely end up dead.

Assange is despised by nearly every single first world nation for publishing confidential files (which some consider "treason" and "terrorism") and pretending that means nothing is absolutely ridiculous and if believing that the whole rape charge is just a politically motivated way to smear his reputation, get him into Sweden so they may extradite him over to the United States makes me some sort of "conspiracy loon", whatever.

[galenmarek]

[QUOTE=Ralakis;39629123]I don't give a shit what source I pull this from, this is coming from a former administration official saying that if legal action fails against Assange, he will most likely end up dead.

Assange is despised by nearly every single first world nation for publishing confidential files (which some consider "treason" and "terrorism") and pretending that means nothing is absolutely ridiculous and if believing that the whole rape charge is just a politically motivated way to smear his reputation, get him into Sweden so they may extradite him over to the United States makes me some sort of "conspiracy loon", whatever.[/QUOTE]

He's part of an administration from the Cold War and hasn't been near anything for the past twenty years. He isn't even an active representative of the current American administration and even says "in his opinion" and then proceeds to talk about the 70's. If America wanted Assange dead then he would have died LONG before he step foot into the embassy and same goes for any other country that would kill him *it's also pretty funny that we would attempt to become buddies with Russia, who still targets people such as him* Not a single cent has spent towards getting him arrested and sent to America. Attempting so say America is trying to get him extradited without ANY INFORMATION SUPPORTING IT indeed does make you appear like an overexaggerating conspiracist. America isn't the big bad evil empire trying to take your liberties away.

Also RT is NOT in any way an acceptable source to cite. They also brought "experts" who claimed America was going to erupt into a civil war within the next several years four years ago as well but obviously that didn't make it true.