• Repblicans Outraged At Obama's Decision To End Iraq War
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[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;32901416]Oh NOW you aren't serious, okay. I'm not serious then either. wait isn't that how that works?[/QUOTE] no i'm pretty sure you were serious with your giant persecution complex. it's one of the many valid reasons why people don't like self-proclaimed republicans.
[QUOTE=thisispain;32901454]no i'm pretty sure you were serious with your giant persecution complex. it's one of the many valid reasons why people don't like self-proclaimed republicans.[/QUOTE] I don't recall ever saying I was a republican. I'm pretty sure you were serious with your superiority complex. Its one of the many valid reasons why people don't like those that generalize based on opinions.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;32901494]I don't recall ever saying I was a republican. I'm pretty sure you were serious with your superiority complex. Its one of the many valid reasons why people don't like those that generalize based on opinions.[/QUOTE] no i was mocking you, and if you aren't a republican then i'm not sure why you'd be defending them
[QUOTE=evilweazel;32896956]I agreed with it one year after 9/11, hell maybe two. But throwing our soldiers into the meat grinder for no reason is fucking wrong. I'm glad it's over. It's not worth American lives, or any countries interference at this point. Too many good men have died over there, no reason to pile any more on top.[/QUOTE] The Iraq War didn't start until 2 years after. EDIT Actually I guess one and a half.
Republicans are bad people
[QUOTE=thisispain;32901521]no i was mocking you, and if you aren't a republican then i'm not sure why you'd be defending them[/QUOTE] Because I can defend any point in most arguments with a reasonable rate of success? Because I might agree with them somewhat anyway? Because I want something else to talk about other than "Republicans want to destroy America"? .............-don't like the complete generalization that occurs on here on a thread-by-thread basis? .............-can? .............-feel like it? The list can go on, just because I am/am not a republican doesn't bar me from defending them.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;32899974]I feel like an awful human being. I was not even aware that Obama ended the war until this forum post, and Comcast was no help at all. [thumb]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7774/unledbby.jpg[/thumb] What the FUCK are our priorities in this country if this announcement is not on the front page in a big splash?[/QUOTE] IIRC the decision has been made for a while, and the thing that recently happened was Obama decided not to [I]postpone[/I] the withdrawal.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;32900554]That's not true. We found stockpiles of chemical agents like the ones used to gas the Kurds in the 90's and in I think the last two years we found a bunch of missiles they had buried before we invaded to hide them although they didn't have any warheads on them. Their full intention was to develop or buy WMD's. There may still be WMD's in Iraq but they're probably buried or hidden somewhere and whoever knew about them is dead or keeping quiet. [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_96nAG3nISWg/S2xVQ5ylKiI/AAAAAAAAANA/kxazYLFC8Ec/s400/Buried+iraq+missile.jpg[/img] And on another subject unrelated to the above post. Does anyone read the article before they post? It seems to be blind Republican bashing.[/QUOTE] That's an anti-ship missile. It's not even close to a WMD.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;32901580]Because I can defend any point in most arguments with a reasonable rate of success? Because I might agree with them somewhat anyway? Because I want something else to talk about other than "Republicans want to destroy America"? .............-don't like the complete generalization that occurs on here on a thread-by-thread basis? .............-can? .............-feel like it? The list can go on, just because I am/am not a republican doesn't bar me from defending them.[/QUOTE] Better question then... why are you defending a group of people who put forward, as their preferred presidential candidates, Ron Paul: a man so against government that he could be considered an anarchist Herman Cain: a man so out of touch with reality that he thinks that black people in this country are only defaulting to democrats and not paying attention and Mitt Romney: who seems to be against his own plan just because it isn't popular at the moment. Is it generalizing when I say the people who support them are, at best, not paying attention or just gullible, and at worst, evil, with stupid somewhere in between? I dont think so. I respect your right to have a differing definition of any term, just dont diminish the calling out of this bullshit by saying that we are generalizing.
What the fuck America come on we need to be stopping abortions because life is sacred so we can raise more unwanted babies to become dead soldiers
[QUOTE=Xain777;32901784]Better question then... why are you defending a group of people who put forward, as their preferred presidential candidates[/quote] Try reading, processing, and THEN replying. [QUOTE=Xain777;32901784]Is it generalizing when I say the people who support them are, at best, not paying attention or just gullible, and at worst, evil, with stupid somewhere in between? I dont think so. I respect your right to have a differing definition of any term, just dont diminish the calling out of this bullshit by saying that we are generalizing.[/QUOTE] Why yes, yes it is. You seem to have just defined "generalizing". In fact, you have now generalized SO HARD that there is a generalization IN your generalization. -------------------- [quote=Wikipedia]A generalization (or generalisation) of a concept is an extension of the concept to less-specific criteria.[/quote] [QUOTE]Is it generalizing when I say [B]the people who support them are, at best, not paying attention or just gullible, and at worst, evil, with stupid somewhere in between?[/B][/QUOTE] -------------------- [QUOTE]I dont think so.[/QUOTE] Lol, okay then. [QUOTE]Is it generalizing when I say the people who support them are, at best,[B] not paying attention or just gullible[/B], and at worst, evil, with stupid somewhere in between?.[/QUOTE] -------------------- [QUOTE][B]I respect your right to have a differing definition of any term[/B], just dont diminish the calling out of this bullshit by saying that we are generalizing.[/QUOTE] Thank you. -------------------- [QUOTE]just dont diminish the calling out of this bullshit by saying that we are generalizing.[/QUOTE] I think I will continue to do just that, simply because you ARE generalizing.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;32901889]very confusing post with a lot of the word "generalizing"[/quote] Try clarifying. [sp]EDIT: If I see someone as evil, dumb, and/or crazy, and they have supporters who are choosing to try to put these people in the oval office, how am I generalizing by saying that they are either misinformed or possessing the same traits (evil, dumb, and/or crazy) as the people they support?[/sp] EDIT2: Just looked up the definition of generalization that you are going off of. I was thinking you meant generalization as it is commonly used, complete with the commonly used negative connotation. Yes, I have been generalizing in the context of human reasoning, but it was a valid generalization and I stand by it. Also the first question, "Why are you defending (rebublicans)," was mostly a moral one.
[QUOTE=Xain777;32901901]Try clarifying.[/QUOTE] yeah my formatting is crap in that post, might try editing it. regardless, you friggen DEFINED the term in yours, and then said it wasn't. Was I the only one who saw it? [editline]22nd October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xain777;32901784] [B]Is it generalizing when I say the people who support them are, at best, not paying attention or just gullible, and at worst, evil, with stupid somewhere in between?[/B] I dont think so. I respect your right to have a differing definition of any term, just dont diminish the calling out of this bullshit by saying that we are generalizing.[/QUOTE] [quote=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalization]A generalization (or generalisation) of a concept is an extension of the concept to less-specific criteria.[/quote] The boldfaced text is a textbook example of that very concept. You took a series of characteristics that were formed from an opinion of a handful of experiences, and then applied it to a general group of people, in this case Republicans. [editline]22nd October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xain777;32901901]EDIT: If I see someone as evil, dumb, and/or crazy, and they have supporters who are choosing to try to put these people in the oval office, how am I generalizing by saying that they are either misinformed or possessing the same traits (evil, dumb, and/or crazy) as the people they support?[/QUOTE] If you look at a specific person and say "THAT person is (insert name here)" then no, that is not generalizing. but you didn't say that, now did you? [editline]22nd October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xain777;32901901]Also the first question, "Why are you defending (rebublicans)," was mostly a moral one.[/QUOTE] FFFFFFFF- we're edit-battling, this is confusing. regardless, i'll answer this tomorrow when i'm not late for work.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;32897187]I wonder if we really would have stayed there 100 years if John McCain had his way.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and there's still American troops in Germany 60 years after the War ended Also fuck Bachman
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;32901141]The majority of this forum seem to be democrats, which means everything that the republicans do is wrong and they are bloodthirsty, greedy, poor beating, tax raising, child raping bastards for doing it. Thats just how it is.[/QUOTE] hey don't come onto a international forum and expect us to be republicans. Most countries aren't as right wing as 'merica
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;32901580]Because I can defend any point in most arguments with a reasonable rate of success?[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;FopyRHHlt3M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M[/video] [QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;32901242]I agree with Cain the most. He seems the most sane out of all of them in this regard.[/QUOTE] You do mean "the most" though, not in general, or in any context beyond as "the least-bad option of a set of terrible options", right?
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32900566]Good, but can we get out of all the other conflicts too?[/QUOTE] Well, Libya was just finished like 2 days ago and we're still drawing down in Afghanistan. I'd say that's pretty good, all things considered. If there's one thing Obama has done a solid job on (in my personal opinion) it's war. Airstrikes in Pakistan and Yemen are unjustified however, and those should be stopped. [editline]22nd October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Broseph_;32902179]Yeah, and there's still American troops in Germany 60 years after the War ended Also fuck Bachman[/QUOTE] At least they're just stationed there and repair vehicles and whatever else. If nothing else it's jobs.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;32901402]How is that? I'm doing exactly what you are doing. i'm generalizing an entire group based off the actions of a few of them IN that group.[/QUOTE] Yeah except when people generalise republicans they're generalising the people chosen to represent that party. It's generalising when you judge the people that are put forth to be judged, in this case the potential presidential candidates.
guys don't think of the republican representatives that are picked by republicans as the representatives for the republicans!!
One thing I'd be curious about is what happens to all of the US troops when they come home? If your job market is fucked at the moment, what does increasing the amount of job hunters by 40,000 do? Nothing good I'd imagine.
[QUOTE=Mlisen14;32902752]One thing I'd be curious about is what happens to all of the US troops when they come home? If your job market is fucked at the moment, what does increasing the amount of job hunters by 40,000 do? Nothing good I'd imagine.[/QUOTE] The same thing that's always happened... [img]http://powerstates.com/wp-content/uploads/homeless_vet.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;32901141]The majority of this forum seem to be democrats, which means everything that the republicans do is wrong and they are bloodthirsty, greedy, poor beating, tax raising, child raping bastards for doing it. Thats just how it is.[/QUOTE] oh right because being on the other side of the aisle makes us all blind and retarded, right? Oh, you think it does? Okay, well that's why we don't take you seriously either. but on another note, look at what the republicans are doing with their majority. They're only trying to pass social litigation with which you can disagree or agree, but it's all social and not economic. They're only trying to stop Obama and turn him into a one term president(Mitch O'Connel said this as if it was a fucking rallying line), they're only trying to protect their interests directly. I haven't seen a republican stand against that in a long, long time. Lincoln long. but those fucking lefties, you know you can stereotype them and it's okay. right?
It's stupid to end the war now, but it's also stupid to continue. I think it's called knowing when to quit. It's for the best to end it now if only for economical reasons.
"You mean you want to end a pointless, wastefull war when the demestic situation is dire? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!"
Finally this shit war is ending, what a fucking joke, what a waste of suffering, Iraqi and American.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;32904128]oh right because being on the other side of the aisle makes us all blind and retarded, right? Oh, you think it does? Okay, well that's why we don't take you seriously either. [/QUOTE] I never said that, when did I say that? [QUOTE=Xain777;32901901]Also the first question, "Why are you defending (rebublicans)," was mostly a moral one.[/QUOTE] I don't defend republicans exclusively, I think the current nominees for the election are mostly insane, save for perry, romney, and cain. Bachman is fucking psycho, Santorum just seems afraid of everything, and I don't think newt actually wants to be president. I completely forgot about one candidate, but I don't feel like looking him up. I think the 2 party system is bullshit and I really wish we'd widen our polls and opinions a bit to account for the other parties that exist, no matter how stupid some of them may be. The democrats have had some good ideas in the past, but Obamacare is bullshit, the "jobs bills" that he's trying to pass are traps to paint the GOP as bad people, and some republicans just want him out of office so that they can start fixing the shit he's caused. Others want him out cause he's a democrat, sure, but we can't assume with any rate of success that EVERY REPUBLICAN EVER is (insert negative statement here). Government is there to build roads, tanks, and keep me from walking up to someone and shooting them for shits and giggles. Stay the hell out of my personal life, my spouse's life, my childrens lives, and my wallet. I'll pay taxes, sure, but stop taking more to support a massive half of a country that is voting for free money. Right now, we are about... halfway divided in this country. The half paying income taxes, and the half that are voting for someone that says they'll take more money from the income earners and "help the poor". Its not the governments job to help the poor, you wanna help them, fine. but don't force me to help them too. Pulling our troops out is probably a good idea. we've overstayed a welcome that wasn't really there to begin with. Sure, we did a lot of good over there, but we also did a lot of bad. A lot of people died for something that we shouldn't have been involved in to begin with, I think that the administration at the time just wanted to chase badguys, and so we did. We chased, and we found, now lets go home. Yes, there will be a problem with an additional amount of job hunters looking for work, but we'll see how things turn out.
[QUOTE=thisispain;32901268]oh boy...[/QUOTE] He fuck you. I was talking about this particular statement by all of these republicans. That's why I said "In this regard". I'm not a fucking republican. Asshole.
Please, americans Please re-elect Obama
[QUOTE=Lufttygger306;32905402]Please, americans Please re-elect Obama[/QUOTE] I can't tell if your serious or not.
[QUOTE=Miskav;32897348]Republicans; America's inbred greedy nutjubs.[/QUOTE] Yeeahh, not all republicans are "inbred greedy nutjobs". My parents for instance.
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