Conservative Americans Protest Enviromental Regulations in a Reasonable Way
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I just want to jam a tennis ball into the chimney.
over the past 3 years or so i've started to distance myself from republicans because of this bullshit
Lots of people in here seem to be caught up on their freedoms, not realizing that there is no freedom to drive. Driving is a privilege, and one that clearly needs to be taken away more often.
Driving is pretty much a necessity in the rural Midwest
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45313976]A "privilege" that, in the vast majority of this country, makes it possible to actually hold a job and provide for your family.
Taking it away more often just leads to people ignoring the system entirely. When your closest neighbor is a mile and some change away, and your closest co-worker lives 30 minutes away, carpooling isn't an option.
Driving should certainly be treated as more than a petty "privilege", especially when removing someones ability to drive in the rural parts of the US is pretty much damning them to break the law or starve.[/QUOTE]
you can drive without rolling coal
nobody here is proposing revoking priveleges for driving a diesel vehicle normally. they're proposing revoking priveleges for purposefully modifying a vehicle to roll coal.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45313976]A "privilege" that, in the vast majority of this country, makes it possible to actually hold a job and provide for your family.
Taking it away more often just leads to people ignoring the system entirely. When your closest neighbor is a mile and some change away, and your closest co-worker lives 30 minutes away, carpooling isn't an option.
Driving should certainly be treated as more than a petty "privilege", especially when removing someones ability to drive in the rural parts of the US is pretty much damning them to break the law or starve.[/QUOTE]
It's not like we don't do that anywhere else. Just look at our prison system or the inner city.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45314008]The thing is, you're already going to get fined for it in the majority of the states. To sit and say "yea, pay the fine, AND LOSE YOUR LICENSE, FUCK YOUUUU" is kinda fucking bullshit.
Yea they made a dumbass decision, but they shouldn't lose their ability to provide for themselves and their families.
Once your license is revoked it costs upwards of 2 grand to get the thing back, that's on top of the fine you're going to pay, on top of the costs it's going to take to un-modify the vehicle, on top of the court fees and attorney fees you're going to pay, not to mention the impound fee, which is something you're going to have to work out between you and the impound lot, its typically 300 dollars a day.
Consider this: These guys are pretty young over all, they make some dumbass decisions, but that's no reason to ruin their lives. Should they be fined and forced to return the vehicle to emissions standards? Yes. Should they lose their license and pay out the ass to get it back? No. [/QUOTE]
It's their conscious decision to modify their vehicle in such a matter, so it's their problem as to how much it costs to un-do it. As for the legal fees, there's an old mantra I repeat to many of my friends who get caught doing stupid shit and end up paying out the ass for it: "Don't do dumb shit and you won't get caught."
Though considering that, there really should be a tiered system with that, such as 1st offense is a warning/small fine, second offense is a bigger fine, and third offense is license revocation. If you can't get your shit straight after the 1st warning, then you truly are stupid and deserve the costs and hassle involved in un-fucking yourself.
Oh wow. Its finally happened. the conservatives of FP have finally fallen into a "Paul hole" and crushed themselves into a singularity of stupidity. I legit cannot tell if they're parodying themselves or just being god awful people without a lick of irony.
I mean shit, you're trying to justify a lack of environmental regulation by using the fucking poor, and nothing else. What happened to those no-monry plebs just getting good and making money huh? Regulations have a much greater and more important long term impact than the few years it takes for the price of environmental tech to drop.
Rolling coal is a traffic violation and accumulating traffic violations gets your license suspended, your proposed system literally already exists, no need to make some special policy to treat this specifically
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45314008]Yea they made a dumbass decision, but they shouldn't lose their ability to provide for themselves and their families.
Consider this: These guys are pretty young over all, they make some dumbass decisions, but that's no reason to ruin their lives. Should they be fined and forced to return the vehicle to emissions standards? Yes. Should they lose their license and pay out the ass to get it back? No.[/QUOTE]
If they're so young, why are they providing for a family? Did they make another dumbass decision regarding a girl too?
Also, if you can afford a big shiny truck, then the modifications for such a truck, then the gasoline to use the modifications, I don't think what you listed would be all that much of a setback.
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