Cyber-bullies could face two years in jail under new internet troll rules in UK
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[QUOTE=ADT;44364249]At some point, you have to stop minding everything that people could say about you or you'll just end up being paranoiac.[/QUOTE]
we are very social as a species, its not easy to just avoid all human contact so you cant get bullied
I can't wait to be shipped off to prison for calling someone a faggot/dickhead/other term on a game/forum.
[QUOTE=usaokay;44363460]75% of Facepunch would mysteriously disappear.[/QUOTE]
yeah right, nerd. who do you think you're trying to sca
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;44364320]I can't wait to be shipped off to prison for calling someone a faggot/dickhead/other term on a game/forum.[/QUOTE]
no one is going to take your posts that trivialize the issue seriously.
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;44364320]I can't wait to be shipped off to prison for calling someone a faggot/dickhead/other term on a game/forum.[/QUOTE]
I believe the law would be aimed mostly at genuine death threats and constant harrassements (through chats, phone calls & SMS, emails, etc...), not the casual insults
Though I wholly agree that 'internet troll' has lost its meaning a long time ago, since it pretty much mean "someone who isn't kissing your ass" most of the time.
I... I really should start digging to somewhere, somewhere they can't get me. North Korea!
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;44363521]Shit like this gets me so livid. All it does is allow more control and silly laws like this to creep in.
Any person with a brain will know of these buttons. They should learn to use them.
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great victim blaming and general misunderstanding of how people react to things in general
grow up
[QUOTE=.Lain;44365230]great victim blaming and general misunderstanding of how people react to things in general
grow up[/QUOTE]
what scares me is the amount of people that actually agree with the post orcy had made.
I think harassing and saying meaningless threats to someone over the internet should be something that the majority of people should be able to shrug off, but shit like this
[quote]after one of her constituents said her 14-year-old daughter had been “verbally raped” by 2,000 obscene texts sent by an older man, who escaped conviction[/quote]
is fucking disgusting.
This is why I don't have a name attached to my email account. Maybe one might have it, but the ones I use for everything have their name as sumting wong. Good like finding him :v:
[QUOTE=orcywoo6;44363521]Shit like this gets me so livid. All it does is allow more control and silly laws like this to creep in.
Any person with a brain will know of these buttons. They should learn to use them.
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No, shit like [I]this[/I] gets me so livid. Really, so someone should stop using the internet altogether because some asshole, through no fault of the victim, decides to make them the target of relentless harassment and threats?
[QUOTE=slayer64;44365496]No, shit like [I]this[/I] gets me so livid. Really, so someone should stop using the internet altogether because some asshole, through no fault of the victim, decides to make them the target of relentless harassment and threats?[/QUOTE]
Well on one side you have the cyberbully who's just being a dickwad, and on the other side you have the victim who, if they decide not to jut ignore the troll, is just being stupid.
But, that's only in cases where they can stop it.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;44365537]Well on one side you have the cyberbully who's just being a dickwad, and on the other side you have the victim who, if they decide not to jut ignore the troll, is just being stupid.
But, that's only in cases where they can stop it.[/QUOTE]
you're still victim blaming if you're gonna consider the victim stupid. it's a complicated issue. getting on the victim's ass negatively isn't really going to help the said person a lot.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;44365537]Well on one side you have the cyberbully who's just being a dickwad, and on the other side you have the victim who, if they decide not to jut ignore the troll, is just being stupid.
But, that's only in cases where they can stop it.[/QUOTE]
Except you can't always ignore them. Especially when they either inundate you on multiple channels or spread rumors to other people.
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I never knew there was a "Computer Processing Unit power button" on a computer
in fact i'm about 100% absolute certain a "Computer Processing Unit power button" doesn't exist. You can quote me on that.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;44365550]you're still victim blaming if you're gonna consider the victim stupid. it's a complicated issue. getting on the victim's ass negatively isn't really going to help the said person a lot.[/QUOTE]
I think it helps them in a way, kinda like a slap to the face that helps them realize what to do or something. In situations like some of the ones described in the article, though, calling the victim stupid is something that's just wrong.
[QUOTE=Valnar;44365554]Except you can't always ignore them. Especially when they either inundate you on multiple channels or do things like spread rumors to other people.[/QUOTE]
Right, but I'm just going into that issue because, why not? I don't really mean to derail the thread that much.
[QUOTE=.Lain;44365230]great victim blaming and general misunderstanding of how people react to things in general
grow up[/QUOTE]
I can understand in cases of legit death threats/harassements, but if you cry because someone casually insulted you or told your artistic work sucks for X reasons, then you can only blame yourself if you take it that personally.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;44365537]Well on one side you have the cyberbully who's just being a dickwad, and on the other side you have the victim who, if they decide not to jut ignore the troll, is just being stupid.
But, that's only in cases where they can stop it.[/QUOTE]
hahaha like wow this is real life if someone calls you a faggot and threatens to murder you just close your eyes!!
[editline]27th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=ADT;44365721]I can understand in cases of legit death threats/harassements, but if you cry because someone casually insulted you or told your artistic work sucks for X reasons, then you can only blame yourself if you take it that personally.[/QUOTE]
criticism can't be compared to direct psychological bullying at all
[editline]27th March 2014[/editline]
some people don't seem to understand the difference between calling someone a tosser on an occasion and actively hunting down and attacking someone. you can ignore one, not the other
[QUOTE=.Lain;44365842]hahaha like wow this is real life if someone calls you a faggot and threatens to murder you just close your eyes!![/QUOTE]
Except this isn't real life, it's the internet. If someone calls you a faggot, ignore them, or use reverse psychology and encourage them, because they're just some faggot behind a monitor.
As for death threats, I can understand being worried if they get [I]really[/I] into it or they have your address or something, but if it's just something like someone saying "u r goin 2 die" after you made fun of them, just leave it be. Chances are they're just some mad kid.
[QUOTE]Cyber-bullies could face two years in jail under new internet troll rules in UK[/QUOTE]
Yes, because "cyber-bullying" and trolling are completely the same thing Guardian. How about you dipshits inform yourselves properly before writing an article. What next, "Hacker Group Anonymous"? Oh wait...
On topic though, I have to agree with some here that it usually takes some using of the block button before you get blessed silence. If someone starts spreading lies about you then yes, you can't do anything really about that, but if nothing else it might expose which of your friends it's really worth keeping. If someone takes the dramatised word of a secondary source to be more reliable than the very person involved in the story, they were probably already not going to be a reliable person.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;44365894]Except this isn't real life, it's the internet. If someone calls you a faggot, ignore them, or use reverse psychology and encourage them, because they're just some faggot behind a monitor.
As for death threats, I can understand being worried if they get [I]really[/I] into it or they have your address or something, but if it's just something like someone saying "u r goin 2 die" after you made fun of them, just leave it be. Chances are they're just some mad kid.[/QUOTE]
the internet is still a social environment regardless. i don't see what the difference is.
[quote]“Just tabled amendment to criminal justice bill to make life just a bit harder for cyber-bullies and [b]sex pests[/b] using texts to harass victims,” said Bray on Twitter.[/quote]
Oh no! Not [I]sex pests[/I]!
Better call the [I]sexterminator[/I]!
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[QUOTE=billi999;44366015][B]Yes, because "cyber-bullying" and trolling are completely the same thing [/B]Guardian. How about you dipshits inform yourselves properly before writing an article. What next, "Hacker Group Anonymous"? Oh wait...[/QUOTE]
except they are: it's hazing with the intent of causing guilt, shame, or insult.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;44366338]the internet is still a social environment regardless. i don't see what the difference is.[/QUOTE]
The biggest difference is that in reality you're in front of a person.
[QUOTE=Simples;44363445]Half the population of UK teenagers going to end up in prison then?[/QUOTE]
im sure a lot of people in the uk wouldnt mind that
[QUOTE=Ownederd;44366392]except they are: it's hazing with the intent of causing guilt, shame, or insult.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHSSNyIlAps[/media]
All this is going to do is attempt to prevent trolling, but wont actually work unless it does actual damage, like someone committing suicide, or maybe even racial slandering. eventually teens are probably going to be more advanced in their trolling that they'll eventually do things like run a Virtual Machine, put TOR on it and do whatever. (assuming sites like Facebook doesn't uniquely label images/sessions to particular computers rather than IPs)
Or they'll just move to weirder methods such as getting people's names, do some social engineering, find weird info then slander that across different platforms like Pastebin, and maybe Goggles? eventually it moves to real life.
[QUOTE=Unit-05;44363835]this video comes to mind:
[video=youtube;Z_ZiRT8Nwkk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZiRT8Nwkk[/video][/QUOTE]
this guy is a fucking idiot.
he's like "just turn off the power you idiots! it's your fault." it's almost as if he's never been bullied online before.
anyone who says "just turn off the screen! block them!!!" has no idea what they're talking about.
[editline]26th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Blazedol;44365537]Well on one side you have the cyberbully who's just being a dickwad, and on the other side you have the victim who, if they decide not to jut ignore the troll, is just being stupid.
But, that's only in cases where they can stop it.[/QUOTE]
holy shit, the victim blaming in this thread is off the hook
I feel that there may be a much deeper issue at play with cyber bullying. Im not convinced that trolls on the internet are to blame for people committing suicide over things we could consider trivial. Perhaps these people have poor communication with their family or something. If I ever had trouble at school I talk about it with family and things get sorted out. But consider the case where someone cant do what I just did. Instead they go out and tell 4chan or some other site to confide in. Lets say this person is now convinced that they are a helpless unwanted being and removes themselves from the world, if it were up to me I couldnt label the internet as the cause for this person's action, clearly this person's problems originated before they made the stupid decision to confide in the net. So the root of their issue wasnt the trolls on the internet, however the internet perpetuated it. But this is just 1 scenario of the unlimited amount of bs that could happen on the net that causes people to point fingers at everyone else but themselves(to whoever this applies to).
The net is a tough spot that has its own rules, its basically you grow thicker skin or gtfo (just like nature in real life). Totally not a force to be reckoned with.
i know it is a serious issue but i wish that they would use a different term, "cyber bullying" just sounds so dated to me, all because it has "cyber" in it
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