• Wii U will be out by the end of the year
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I can't wait for the next Super Smash Bros where Mario's overalls have more detail in them than the rest of the characters combined. [img]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/mario/mario.jpg[/img]
Won't buy it unless it's hackable as the DS is
buying the shit out of this. but won't have to buy new controllers since it comes with the tablet controller, and i already have 4 wiimotes. working all summer though to get money, guess i can just buy all the launch titles. after seeing what nintendo pulled off with skyward sword i am very hopeful for the future of their first party titles.
:pwn: Can't wait for dem new Zeldas
I can think of tons of awesome uses for the tablet, but I think it's going to be a hard sell.
More like pii u
[QUOTE=TurbisV2;34397161]i am very interrested in seeing what developers will use the controller for[/QUOTE] They won't use it, since they won't develop for it.
My insatiable impatience for the next Smash Bros. game is titillated by this news
Too many gimmicks, not enough developers. This is going to go the way of the wii, no matter how much you hype it up you need to look at the negatives. Nintendo spends way too much time coming up with rubbish motion control gimmicks than actually supporting their consoles. The wii had such slim pickings at launch and it continued that way until it was thrown to the third party motion minigame sharks.
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34397170]The 3DS sold better than the DS did when it first came out, what the hell do you mean by fail? Did the original DS also "fail" then?[/QUOTE] To reinforce that: [url]http://www.vgchartz.com/charts/weekly.php?reg=date=40930[/url] [QUOTE]Global Hardware by Platform Platform Weekly (change) Total 3DS 291,838 (-44%) 15,323,792 PS3 217,958 (-48%) 60,959,159 X360 187,177 (-27%) 64,177,252 Wii 140,452 (-51%) 94,742,303 PSP 87,406 (-53%) 72,942,878 DS 71,535 (-37%) 151,247,857 PSV 19,756 (-57%) 547,491[/QUOTE] The problem isn't the 3DS "failing" it's that sales took a hit across all hardware post-launch. People just aren't buying too terribly many systems right now. Plus, the current lineup is lackluster, as it's still being outsold by DS games. [QUOTE]Global Software by Platform Platform Weekly (change) Total X360 2,328,430 (-29%) 600,821,491 PS3 2,201,961 (-28%) 509,632,229 Wii 2,192,207 (-29%) 769,059,432 [B]DS 994,670 (-25%) 717,379,651 3DS 703,280 (-43%) 30,989,025[/B] PC 610,044 (-28%) N/A PSP 463,765 (-26%) 256,707,042 PSV 26,445 (-49%) 521,229[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Solo Wing;34398188]I would hardly call the 3DS a failure. Considering its been selling faster than the DS when it first came out. Its hardly a failure. Sure, it may have had a poor launch title line up, but just like the PS3 they are starting to crank out some quality titles. Star Fox 3D and Mario Kart 7 are very well made. Have you even tried playing one before criticizing it?[/QUOTE] He said it was [I]terrible,[/I] not a [I]failure.[/I] There's a difference. And I'd agree, honestly. It was easier to see the failings of the Game Boy when the Game Gear was still a thing, and the DS when the PSP was still running strong. The 3DS only seems particularly good because it effectively has no competition yet (gotta see if the Vita ever gets rolling). We can still say the 3DS just [URL="http://www.qj.net/nintendo-3ds/news/report-reveals-nintendo-3ds-manufacturing-costs.html"]simply isn't what it should be for what it costs to buy versus manufacture[/URL], especially when [URL="http://gamethingdaily.com/2012/01/22/playstation-vita-manufacturing-cost-estimated-at-160/"]Sony is pushing for more in the same price point.[/URL] There's also just the obvious design issues, like the lack of a second stick without a goofy fucking addon.
I Know what I'm getting for my Christmas!
I'm not falling for your crap again Nintendo. The Wii lasted me less than a year. Your new design and controller with a screen won't save you now.
[QUOTE=Red scout?;34398000]Seeing how terrible the 3DS and Wii has been, no. I wont be getting this one. Imma keep tony good old PC[/QUOTE] What the hell does the PC even have to do with Nintendo games? Nintendo doesn't produce for any console other than their own, you're just being a PC elitist in the most unfitting situation. [QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;34399913]Gimme a Gamecube 2 and I'm sold. I don't have any interest in the Wii U.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure during an interview for Skyward Sword, Miyamoto said he was never planning on going back to pure button controls.
I think it looks terrible, honestly.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;34402729]The WiiU however is trying to be "hardcore" while the next generation of hardcore consoles is right around the corner carrying shotguns and baseball bats covered in nails, it's not gonna be pretty.[/QUOTE] i know its sort of the thing for wii u, but how is it being hardcore by making the controller a fucking tablet if anything its just as casual as the wii has ever been
I hope they'll make a WarioWare for it.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;34402729]The WiiU is essentially a disaster in the making. WiiU -Just barely above 360 hardware -Only a few launch titles, half of them we don't even know the names of and are most likely hastily done ports, the other half is Nintendo games that everyone has been playing since the Wii launched except with better graphics -Awkward & huge tablet controller that puts the original Xbox controller to shame PS4/Xbox 3 -At minimum will have 2x better hardware than the 360 -Will definitely launch with major titles like CoD and Assassin's Creed, bringing in millions of people within the first month -GTA V might even be a launch title as well, Rockstar hasn't told anyone what platforms the game will be on, which is kind of suspicious -Ancient but perfectly functioning controllers everyone knows how to use I can easily understand why the Wii did so well, it was a "casual" console and brought it in a huge audience with it's fun to use controller and casual games, which is respectable. The WiiU however is trying to be "hardcore" while the next generation of hardcore consoles is right around the corner carrying shotguns and baseball bats covered in nails, it's not gonna be pretty.[/QUOTE] What are you pulling this out of your ass
[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;34401339]My insatiable impatience for the next Smash Bros. game is titillated by this news[/QUOTE] fun fact the next smash brothers is going to be cross platform between Wii U and 3DS
Can't wait for HD Metroid
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Not buying another Nintendo console until they as a company can deliver more engaging experiences than Zelda Game #27 or Mario Platformer #36. I know people like those games, but it just isn't for me, and I'd rather see the motion sensing tech behind the Wii/Wii-U used for more ambitious projects than first party copy/paste retreads.
[QUOTE=Streecer;34401344]Too many gimmicks, not enough developers. This is going to go the way of the wii, no matter how much you hype it up you need to look at the negatives. Nintendo spends way too much time coming up with rubbish motion control gimmicks than actually supporting their consoles. The wii had such slim pickings at launch and it continued that way until it was thrown to the third party motion minigame sharks.[/QUOTE] I think the Wii suffered hugely from a lack of [I]good[/I] third-party games. The button/analog layout of the PS3 and XBox 360 are pretty similar, but are nowhere near close to the that of the Wii. The motion controls and [I]very[/I] different controller layout made it hard for most mainstream games to be ported over to the Wii (the CoD series is the only port that comes to mind). Its relatively weak hardware didn't do it any favors, either.
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34397170]The 3DS sold better than the DS did when it first came out, what the hell do you mean by fail? Did the original DS also "fail" then?[/QUOTE] It's been out for a year and suffered several necessary price drops within it's first few months, overall sales are extremely low compared to anything else nintendo has released (ratio wise). its doing pretty bad
Also, I can't help but notice that many of the really good games for the Wii - Super Smash Bros. Brawl, New Super Mario Brothers, Kirby Epic Yarn, Return to Dreamland, Lego games, Rayman Origins - have all but abandoned the motion controls.
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;34405751]Also, I can't help but notice that many of the really good games for the Wii - Super Smash Bros. Brawl, New Super Mario Brothers, Kirby Epic Yarn, Return to Dreamland, Lego games, Rayman Origins - have all but abandoned the motion controls.[/QUOTE] You're just leaving out the ones that did use them, like Metroid Prime 3, or No More Heroes. I haven't gotten a chance to play Red Steel 2 yet, but from what I remember hearing it did a good job too. Honestly, it wasn't so much the motion controls that made the wii difficult to develop for as it was it's terrible performance (among other factors) which nintendo's been working on fixing for this generation. The Wii U will most likely be as powerful as other upcoming consoles, and honestly as long as it's good enough to get good support it doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;34396660]hopefully it wont fail like the 3ds[/QUOTE] have you looked at the 3ds sales charts? compare it to the PSvita's sales. nintendo does notoriously well in terms of sales because it tries new things. it seems like nintendo is the last bastion for child like creativity and imagination. can you imagine a world with no fantasy or unrealistic games? only call of duty and gritty war simulators as far as the eye can see. i don't want a real life simulator, i want games that are actually creative and fun to play (skyward sword for example) or that at least have an exceptionally deep story line. also from personally holding the WiiU controller i can say it feels great. it looks weird but when you pick it up it just feels nice. [editline]26th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Atlascore;34402729]The WiiU is essentially a disaster in the making. WiiU -Just barely above 360 hardware -Only a few launch titles, half of them we don't even know the names of and are most likely hastily done ports, the other half is Nintendo games that everyone has been playing since the Wii launched except with better graphics -Awkward & huge tablet controller that puts the original Xbox controller to shame PS4/Xbox 3 -At minimum will have 2x better hardware than the 360 -Will definitely launch with major titles like CoD and Assassin's Creed, bringing in millions of people within the first month -GTA V might even be a launch title as well, Rockstar hasn't told anyone what platforms the game will be on, which is kind of suspicious -Ancient but perfectly functioning controllers everyone knows how to use I can easily understand why the Wii did so well, it was a "casual" console and brought it in a huge audience with it's fun to use controller and casual games, which is respectable. The WiiU however is trying to be "hardcore" while the next generation of hardcore consoles is right around the corner carrying shotguns and baseball bats covered in nails, it's not gonna be pretty.[/QUOTE] dude, the WiiU has a power7 4 core IBM CPU at 3.0GHz with 3 logical threads per core. also it doesn't matter how much power a system has, if the developers are retards it will look terrible anyways. i play consoles for games that my PC won't have. if i wanted shear power i'll use my PC.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;34399913]Gimme a Gamecube 2 and I'm sold. I don't have any interest in the Wii U.[/QUOTE] I would say that it's definitely an improvement in comparison to the Wii. It might be up to par with the N64 and the Gamecube.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;34406160]No, I'm not, this is all common sense stuff. Consoles almost always release at the end of the year, so do major titles like CoD and AC, Activison, Ubisoft, and EA aren't going to miss the chance to sell shit on new, more powerful consoles. Look what happened when the PS3/360 came out, everyone abandoned the previous generation of consoles and went for the PS3/360. It's not going to change with the WiiU, most, if not all of the major third party developers are going to stick with Microsoft and Sony. [editline]26th January 2012[/editline] What does that have to do with anything, Consoles aren't just about the processor anyway, a quad core from IBM doesn't mean it's going to be pumping out Crysis quality visuals.[/QUOTE] Actually the processor has EVERYTHING to do with it. if your CPU cannot keep up with your GPU, then your GPU will only go as fast as the CPU, in computer science it is called a bottleneck. the max speed a computer can output is determined by the over-all speed of all the components that make it. the reason the power7 processor is a beast is because it has 768MB of DRAM built directly into the processor for use as a cache or quick storage. compare that to the normal 16MB L3 cache a PC CPU has. this means the GPU can run up to an extra 768MB of information directly to the CPU instead of transfering it through normal RAM storage.
I'm looking forward to Lego Cities.
I just don't trust nintendo anymore. I might see what happens much later after it's launch so if it hasn't gone the way of the wii and is flooded by shitty third party kiddie games.
I hope they make another Metroid game for it. Nobody wants the series to end with Other M.
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