Got banned from Xbox Live? ALL your games are now unplayable, and MS won't say whether you can still - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Evilan;41043132]Uh huh. Have any evidence to support that claim?[/QUOTE] It's obvious. If everything has Cd keys that are required to be redeemed to play, then if you get banned you lose all of it.

[QUOTE=legolover122;41043220]It's obvious. If everything has Cd keys that are required to be redeemed to play, then if you get banned you lose all of it.[/QUOTE] No, its not obvious if there is no evidence that this is the case yet.

i feel like microsoft hears all of our complaints but they just want to see how bad they can make this system

Xbox is a joke, I got a day ban for having the phrase "Heavy fecking metal" in my bio yet any game with voice chat people swear and shout racial sexist abuse and nothing happens.. Logic.

I remember when those 3 million or so DiRT 2 keys were leaked, I used one on my main (for a fucking idiotic reason) and I got the game, then had it silently removed the next day. This is why Steam are cool, if you're a total fucking idiot for a day they forgive you. Microsoft have dug their own grave and I really hope to fucking God little idiotic kids don't get them for Christmas. Although, parents will find anything to not get a Xbone due to the fact they're expensive as fuck and will probably end up getting a PS4.

I got perma-banned from xbox live because they refunded me for a game then later realized it was against their policy. this was ''marketplace theft'' on my behalf, apparently.

[QUOTE=Erasus;41043496]I remember when those 3 million or so DiRT 2 keys were leaked, I used one on my main (for a fucking idiotic reason) and I got the game, then had it silently removed the next day. This is why Steam are cool, if you're a total fucking idiot for a day they forgive you. Microsoft have dug their own grave and I really hope to fucking God little idiotic kids don't get them for Christmas. Although, parents will find anything to not get a Xbone due to the fact they're expensive as fuck and will probably end up getting a PS4.[/QUOTE]People may end up getting xbox one just because of the fact of good luck finding a PS4 come launch day. Pre orders are fucking selling out according to sony.

this has been a part of the user agreement since 360 launched. people are freaking out over it now? go figure. if you weren't aware of this before now idk what is wrong with you honestly. [editline]15th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Fetret;41042994]I'm serious here, how is this even legal? You buy the physical games (so not even the {in my opinion absurd} "you don't own the game it is not physical, you are just licensed" argument for Steam works here) so how can they just not let you play your games? I wonder what EU would say about this. And what happens if you buy a new Xbone, can you then play with your old games again or do you have to buy them again?[/QUOTE] you agree to the terms when you buy the game. don't like the terms DON'T BUY THE GAME

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;41043624]this has been a part of the user agreement since 360 launched. people are freaking out over it now? go figure. if you weren't aware of this before now idk what is wrong with you honestly.[/QUOTE] Because now it effects retail games as well, if what microsoft has said before is true.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41043053]Microsoft seriously needs to be more careful right now. The whole gaming community is watching them and marking down every single mistake and embracing every bit of misinformation.[/QUOTE] it's not even fucking misinformation it's people being hyper-reactionary and taking every little inch of ground they can to make MS look terrible (which is often warranted, by clearly not in this case) [editline]15th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=legolover122;41043633]Because now it effects retail games as well, if what microsoft has said before is true.[/QUOTE] what? it only effects the game if has a clause in the agreement stating such to be the case ie downloadable games. obviously when you buy a physical game there is no license involved. Now as far as xbox one is concerned, we have not seen the EULA for any of their games or the console itself so that is all pure speculation.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;41043640] what? it only effects the game if has a clause in the agreement stating such to be the case ie downloadable games. obviously when you buy a physical game there is no license involved. Now as far as xbox one is concerned, we have not seen the EULA for any of their games or the console itself so that is all pure speculation.[/QUOTE] With the xbox one? Yeah. If they have a system in place that forces retail games to only be played on a certain account then a CD key needs to be tied to an account, because DRM isn't magic. So it makes sense to go on and say that if the account that got tied to the CD key got banned, the physical copy of the game would be useless because A: The account tied to the key got banned and B: you don't have another key to activate the game with. That's assuming MS still goes with the game restrictions. EDIT: Here's some spaghetti sauce if you want it [url]http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/05/xbox-one-analysis/[/url] [quote]Wired asked Microsoft if installation would be mandatory. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” the company responded in an emailed statement. Sounds mandatory to us. [B]What follows naturally from this is that each disc would have to be tied to a unique Xbox Live account[/B], else you could take a single disc and pass it between everyone you know and copy the game over and over. Since this is clearly not going to happen, each disc must then only install for a single owner.[/quote] Account gets banned = physical copy is a very light paperweight.

So anyone else up for a PS4 instead of this?

To be honest, I don't think it's as much misinformation as it is rapid backpedaling.

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On the steam debate, support stand a chance of unbanning you if you explain yourself. I was once banned from steam (not vac) for impersonating one of those left 4 dead promotion bots, which I didn't know was against the rules. I just explained it and told them how much of my cashdolla I'd poured in to my account and they were forgiving and cool about it. I heavily doubt Microsoft tech support would be forgiving, or even allow you to explain yourself.

[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;41041942]At this point Microsoft should just give up and stick to what they're good at; Operating Systems.[/QUOTE] Oh hell no after they ruined win 8. I would rather have them care less about the OS and rape the xbox one even further.

[QUOTE=X6ZioN6X;41041635]In Valve's defense, it's much harder to be banned on Steam then on Xbox.[/QUOTE] what makes you think this? other than "lel valve is better"

[QUOTE=Glue Factory;41043841][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kIklN.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Woah, woah, woah... so Microsoft fucks up and fails to plug a glitch in the avatar creation system and their solution, instead of just fixing it or, y'know, just fucking ignoring it because what's the big deal, is to ban a person who exploits that glitch? What the fuck.

The original way of modifying your avatar was moving your gamertag to a USB/Memory Unit, plugging it into your computer and then running Modio or something to change your avatars skin colour to an RGB value, rather then Microsoft storing it as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 then having a script decode that into an RGB value, of course, we can't have that because that would be logical and its Microsoft we're dealing with. Also, they refuse to lift any permanent bans, even when a XBL Mod goes ban happy and bans everyone, they refuse to lift them, they have no support line for Xbox Live, except the billing department.

[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;41041643]It's almost impossible to get banned from Steam, unless you actually deserve it. So unless you're a proper cunt then you have nothing to worry about[/QUOTE] Isn't like the only way to get banned from actual steam is to do a back charge on a credit card/doing something outright illegal? [editline]15th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=vortex725;41044387]The original way of modifying your avatar was moving your gamertag to a USB/Memory Unit, plugging it into your computer and then running Modio or something to change your avatars skin colour to an RGB value, rather then Microsoft storing it as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 then having a script decode that into an RGB value, of course, we can't have that because that would be logical and its Microsoft we're dealing with. Also, they refuse to lift any permanent bans, even when a XBL Mod goes ban happy and bans everyone, they refuse to lift them, they have no support line for Xbox Live, except the billing department.[/QUOTE] I can see this being against so many consumer protection laws

[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;41041643]It's almost impossible to get banned from Steam, unless you actually deserve it. So unless you're a proper cunt then you have nothing to worry about[/QUOTE] You gotta be a massive overall dickwad for that to happen. I only know of one case, and that tool was both a scammer and a exploiter. Not to mention a overall asshole.

Valve doesn't ban you for having the name "pussymonster69" Xbox Permas you. Difference is, Vac and valve only ban for shit that's probably illegal or ruins games, not for making your Mii ripoff blue.

[QUOTE=X6ZioN6X;41041635]In Valve's defense, it's much harder to be banned on Steam then on Xbox.[/QUOTE] And we also know we can't trade in games because they are fucking digital, something we don't really expect on a console. [editline]15th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Altimor;41043032]VAC is awful I've cheated like fuck for a year on every VAC enabled engine except UE3 on an alt and have yet to receive a VAC ban for that However I did get an OB/CSGO VAC on my main for using Proxifier, a legitimate program that hooks Winsock functions The CoD MW2 incident was an entirely different thing though, that was VAC's integrity checks not being updated when a game update was being pushed out. The result was VAC thought everyone had modified binaries.[/QUOTE] Weird. I cheated on non-VAC servers only long time ago on CSCZ, and I got banned within a week.

Looks like they have already begun to backpedal.

[QUOTE=sltungle;41044358]Woah, woah, woah... so Microsoft fucks up and fails to plug a glitch in the avatar creation system and their solution, instead of just fixing it or, y'know, just fucking ignoring it because what's the big deal, is to ban a person who exploits that glitch? What the fuck.[/QUOTE] Pretty much every company will ban you for exploiting a glitch in the system when you do it knowingly.

[QUOTE=sltungle;41044358]Woah, woah, woah... so Microsoft fucks up and fails to plug a glitch in the avatar creation system and their solution, instead of just fixing it or, y'know, just fucking ignoring it because what's the big deal, is to ban a person who exploits that glitch? What the fuck.[/QUOTE] Literally every company with any sort of banning system will ban you for knowingly exploiting glitches in their system without reporting the glitches first.

[QUOTE=Clio;41044175]what makes you think this? other than "lel valve is better"[/QUOTE] Did you read this thread by any chance?

From the backpedaling PR machine: [img]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/Starmenclock/XboneBackpedal_zps61bb7f92.png[/img] [i]I mean that was for the Xbox 360 even thought the starting question asked about the Xbox One! We won't tell you the real thing either to clear up the confusion. [/i] :v:

This has gone beyond digging your own grave or shooting your self in the foot. This is just... stupid.

[QUOTE=The freeman;41048087]Literally every company with any sort of banning system will ban you for knowingly exploiting glitches in their system without reporting the glitches first.[/QUOTE] They won't ban you because of stupid shit like avatar glitches. When there was that url that changed your Steam profile picture I haven't seen anybody get banned for sending it to someone.