• EA's Origin service fucks up, offers infinite $20 off coupons, possibly banning users which took adv
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[QUOTE=jordguitar;38027182]The transaction was fully complete when the system spat out a game key. From that moment onward, there is nothing EA can do about it.[/QUOTE] My aunt was a lawyer, I want to know what she thinks of this. And what EA can do. Can EA get fucked over or can we get fucked over for this. EA can probably place charges against IP's that are repeat offenders for theft.
i got dragon age: origins, bf2, bc2, bc2 vietnam, moh, bf2142, bulletstorm, sim city 4, the saboteur, and burnout. im done
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027161]I wonder if EA will sue everyone that used these codes multiple times. It's a lot of people and they would surely get more then what they lost today, so I wouldn't really doubt that they will do more then just ban accounts.[/QUOTE] They can't sue anyone for anything. EA is in the worst position with a few choices. Choice 1: Try to revoke most games (People angry they lose their games, especially if they did the survey.) Choice 2: Remove games only if you got multiple Choice 3: Ban everyone who did it multiple times (Multiple shit storms ensue especially with EAs already bad standing online and peoples hate for origin.) Choice 4: Do nothing (Massive loss profit) Choice 2 is probably the best choice for them.
[QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;38027005]Does it still work? It isn't for me[/QUOTE] Just now added a couple more games to my account without issue, keep in mind you can only add up to 3 games per account even when clearing cookies.
Damn no longer works and yea i did do what everyone else has been doing. Could only Dead Space.
[QUOTE=mblunk;38027212]Just now added a couple more games to my account without issue, keep in mind you can only add up to 3 games per account even when clearing cookies.[/QUOTE] Why do people say this? I got 4 so far.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027204]My aunt was a lawyer, I want to know what she thinks of this. And what EA can do. Can EA get fucked over or can we get fucked over for this. EA can probably place charges against IP's that are repeat offenders for theft.[/QUOTE] They are going to have a extremely hard time proving it as they had to set up the code, they let it be active for this long, and did nothing until hours ago when they finally shut it off. As the system also shoots out receipts, all you have to do is show that and its solid to protect you. They allowed you to purchase the game at no cost and let it go through.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;38027208]They can't sue anyone for anything. EA is in the worst position with a few choices. Choice 1: Try to revoke most games (People angry they lose their games, especially if they did the survey.) Choice 2: Remove games only if you got multiple Choice 3: Ban everyone who did it multiple times (Multiple shit storms ensue especially with EAs already bad standing online and peoples hate for origin.) Choice 4: Do nothing (Massive profit) Choice 2 is probably the best choice for them.[/QUOTE] There is a standing point for them. If EA banned people for cheating in a game, they will take this far. So far I can see me getting charged for Theft on multiple cases. And without proof I legally bought most of these games I'm fucked. I do believe EA will attempt to take this to court.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;38027208]They can't sue anyone for anything. EA is in the worst position with a few choices. Choice 1: Try to revoke most games (People angry they lose their games, especially if they did the survey.) Choice 2: Remove games only if you got multiple Choice 3: Ban everyone who did it multiple times (Multiple shit storms ensue especially with EAs already bad standing online and peoples hate for origin.) Choice 4: Do nothing (Massive profit) Choice 4 is probably the best choice for them.[/QUOTE] Fixed that. [editline]14th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Rocko's;38027225]There is a standing point for them. If EA banned people for cheating in a game, they will take this far. So far I can see me getting charged for Theft on multiple cases. And without proof I legally bought most of these games I'm fucked. I do believe EA will attempt to take this to court.[/QUOTE] Do you know how hard it will be to bring up THOUSANDS of SMALL CLAIMS COURT CASES against EVERYONE WHO USED IT? This isnt a one big lawsuit thing, they are going to have to do it on a individual basis and they wont waste their time and money.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027204]My aunt was a lawyer, I want to know what she thinks of this. And what EA can do. Can EA get fucked over or can we get fucked over for this. EA can probably place charges against IP's that are repeat offenders for theft.[/QUOTE] EA will get some serious media flak if they sue everyone who made multiple accounts to do this. Plus how could they pin it on just IPs? Don't some change all the time? Like dynamic IPs or whatever?
[QUOTE=MadPro119;38027221]Why do people say this? I got 4 so far.[/QUOTE] Because it only let me add 3 to my accounts before it stops working. I guess it's hit and miss.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;38027222]They are going to have a extremely hard time proving it as they had to set up the code, they let it be active for this long, and did nothing until hours ago when they finally shut it off. As the system also shoots out receipts, all you have to do is show that and its solid to protect you. They allowed you to purchase the game at no cost and let it go through.[/QUOTE] I know that, but a receipt saying "The Sims 2: Double Deluxe 0.00" wouldn't look great. And EA can always say that the code used was exploited in an illegal way, and could be considered theft. I know I'm very paranoid, but this is EA were talking about. I wouldn't really see Valve doing this, but EA banned accounts just for exploiting in Battlefield. This is taking it up to a whole new ballpark.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;38027222]They are going to have a extremely hard time proving it as they had to set up the code, they let it be active for this long, and did nothing until hours ago when they finally shut it off. As the system also shoots out receipts, all you have to do is show that and its solid to protect you. They allowed you to purchase the game at no cost and let it go through.[/QUOTE] I'm sure the people who used fraudulent Credit Card numbers (which there are many posts in this thread and in the page posted in the OP that point to this) aren't going to be able to show that their purchase was "solid". Pretty sure that's still fraud one way or another. I'm not convinced that EA can't do anything about it.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027245]I'm sure the people who used fraudulent Credit Card numbers (which there are many posts in this thread and in the page posted in the OP that point to this) aren't going to be able to show that their purchase was "solid". Pretty sure that's still fraud one way or another. I'm not convinced that EA can't do anything about it.[/QUOTE] If you did it right you never had to actually give your payment info. When the price is 0 dollars it simply does not ask for it.
Anyway, I'm just a little paranoid that's all. EA won't take this sitting down, I think the worst they can do right now is ban every account that has done this multiple times. Which is fine with me.
Does this work for the BC2 vietnam DLC?
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027283]Anyway, I'm just a little paranoid that's all. EA won't take this sitting down, I think the worst they can do right now is ban every account that has done this multiple times. Which is fine with me.[/QUOTE] EA should have just canceled the code when they found out it was broken. It escapes me why on earth they took so long to shut down the code.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027245]I'm sure the people who used fraudulent Credit Card numbers (which there are many posts in this thread and in the page posted in the OP that point to this) aren't going to be able to show that their purchase was "solid". Pretty sure that's still fraud one way or another. I'm not convinced that EA can't do anything about it.[/QUOTE] The people using fake credit card numbers didn't do it right. It only asked for an basic personal info. [editline]14th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=legolover122;38027294]EA should have just canceled the code when they found out it was broken. It escapes me why on earth they took so long to shut down the code.[/QUOTE] If they didn't do that, and take the games away. I really do now see they can't do much.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027245]I'm sure the people who used fraudulent Credit Card numbers (which there are many posts in this thread and in the page posted in the OP that point to this) aren't going to be able to show that their purchase was "solid". Pretty sure that's still fraud one way or another. I'm not convinced that EA can't do anything about it.[/QUOTE] It was a code generated by EA and accepted by their systems. They messed it up and allowed it to be used multiple times instead of generating a one-off code for each survey taker and they took atleast 10+ hours to do a single thing about it. They tried doing something earlier on by limiting it to one use per account and not shutting it off. As I said before, when the system spits out a game key, the transaction is fully complete and there is nothing more EA can do. EA is at the most fault here. The credit card comparison is not valid as you had to steal that number in the first place and use it against the actual owners wishes. This code was made by EA and they set the system up horribly and it was obviously abused on a massive scale and they did nothing for hours.
[QUOTE=legolover122;38027294]EA should have just canceled the code when they found out it was broken. It escapes me why on earth they took so long to shut down the code.[/QUOTE] Sometimes things that sound so simple might actually be more complicated than you think. Don't just assume it's a click of a button.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027307]Sometimes things that sound so simple might actually be more complicated than you think. Don't just assume it's a click of a button.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure they would have measures in case something like this happened. Valve had removed most of the Dirt 2 games and deactivated the keys an hour in. EA took a long time to catch on, and another hour or 2 to deactivate the code.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027090]And for those of you who think they won't ban people for exploiting a glitch: They've done it before. [url]http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/11/14/ea-bans-battlefield-3-accounts-following-bug-exploit[/url] And that was just for a game. You're fucking about in their business territory with this.[/QUOTE] something tells me you're the type justify someone being sued for millions of dollars for pirating a 1$ song. [QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027307]Sometimes things that sound so simple might actually be more complicated than you think. Don't just assume it's a click of a button.[/QUOTE] if they don't record who uses what coupons then that's actually quite sad because I'm pretty sure that they would have had that, especially by now... Steam was able to fix, within an hour, a huge CD key leak, without banning.
A really easy fix is to just remove game licenses from everyone who used the code multiple times. They will have a hard time bitching about EA revoking free games because they used a coupon code over and over.
[QUOTE=MAspiderface;38027289]Does this work for the BC2 vietnam DLC?[/QUOTE] yes
It didn't even bother asking about credit cards for most people.
See if EA was doing this right. They would have made a lot of keys instead of using one. From the looks of it the survey only generated that one key. EA didn't really make this so no one could exploit it. And it would really look bad for EA to sue. Which I don't think EA cares about in this point and time.
EA was too distracted whipping their employees to remove the code.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;38027325]A really easy fix is to just remove game licenses from everyone who used the code multiple times. They will have a hard time bitching about EA revoking free games because they used a coupon code over and over.[/QUOTE] For alot of games, they do not have a online activation and just use a simple program that allows the game to be installed and ran (aka the sims 2 and I think all of the expansions and packs). It isnt easy at all to do that and ensure they no longer have access.
By the way, for those wondering why it took so long, remember its a weekend.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;38027351]By the way, for those wondering why it took so long, remember its a weekend.[/QUOTE] That actually does make sense.
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