• EA's Origin service fucks up, offers infinite $20 off coupons, possibly banning users which took adv
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[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027339]See if EA was doing this right. They would have made a lot of keys instead of using one. From the looks of it the survey only generated that one key. EA didn't really make this so no one could exploit it. And it would really look bad for EA to sue. Which I don't think EA cares about in this point and time.[/QUOTE] No, they would have generated a coupon on the fly that would give the same x off and one time use not have a single code. [editline]14th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ericson666;38027351]By the way, for those wondering why it took so long, remember its a weekend.[/QUOTE] "TOD GET IN THE GOD DAMN OFFICE AND TURN THIS COUPON OFF RIGHT NOW ITS A EMERGENCY" Phone calls are extremely simple to make, even at 2 in the morning.
I can forsee EA banning accounts, and threaten them to either remove the game, and show proof they did, or action will be taken. Deactivating the code and banning won't do much as most of the game on Origin do not require Origin running to be launched. Similar to steam, unless the game from steam if from Valve.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38027324]something tells me you're the type justify someone being sued for millions of dollars for pirating a 1$ song.[/QUOTE] Nope. I'm simply giving you the facts. You're just speculating. My entire point is that people who are acting like they are entitled to this and that it's EA's fault they are abusing this system are assholes. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying people should be put in jail, I'm not saying you SHOULD be banned, or whatever the hell you think I'm saying. I'm just speculating about the outcome of this, and how you guys are going to react because of it. People who download a song for $1 and try to justify it passed "I just wanted a song and didn't want to pay for it" are assholes too. I saw the same shit when MegaUpload was canned. People bitched because they couldn't watch their TV shows or download whatever for free and tried to justify their outrage, when in simply comes down to the fact that they just didn't want to pay for whatever the hell they were downloading.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027373]I can forsee EA banning accounts, and threaten them to either remove the game, and show proof they did, or action will be taken. Deactivating the code and banning won't do much as most of the game on Origin do not require Origin running to be launched. Similar to steam, unless the game from steam if from Valve.[/QUOTE] OH YES EA I TOTALLY UNINSTALLED THE SIMS 2 AND THE OTHER STUFF YES I WILL NEVER USE IT AGAIN *click* *reinstall games with same keys whilst blocking any call home features*
[QUOTE=jordguitar;38027383]OH YES EA I TOTALLY UNINSTALLED THE SIMS 2 AND THE OTHER STUFF YES I WILL NEVER USE IT AGAIN *click* *reinstall games with same keys whilst blocking any call home features*[/QUOTE] Then honestly, what can EA do? They won't take this sitting down, and they have nothing to do besides sue or just sit there and take it like a man. And from the looks of it, EA never does option 2.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027394]Then honestly, what can EA do? They won't take this sitting down, and they have nothing to do besides sue or just sit there and take it like a man. And from the looks of it, EA never does option 2.[/QUOTE] They do nothing but eat it and learn from their mistakes. Full stop.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027378]Nope. I'm simply giving you the facts. You're just speculating. [B]Then why do you keep acting like you justify this by saying it?[/B] My entire point is that people who are acting like they are entitled to this and that it's EA's fault they are abusing this system are assholes. That's all I'm saying. [B]Fair I guess, but to also be fair EA is also watching people walk out with games free[/B] I'm not saying people should be put in jail, I'm not saying you SHOULD be banned, or whatever the hell you think I'm saying. I'm just speculating about the outcome of this, and how you guys are going to react because of it. [B]Ok fair you're not a bad person, but just understand the misunderstanding people will get[/B] People who download a song for $1 and try to justify it passed "I just wanted a song and didn't want to pay for it" are assholes too. [B]Actually I wasn't justifying downloading a song, rather pointing out that radical action against it isn't justifiable, and that you might have agreed with that, because as assumed you would agree with this[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027394]Then honestly, what can EA do? They won't take this sitting down, and they have nothing to do besides sue or just sit there and take it like a man. And from the looks of it, EA never does option 2.[/QUOTE] Except EA can't sue due to things like dynamic IPs and VPNs. And if they ban the account/remove games, you can't reinstall, update, or go online with them.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027378]Nope. I'm simply giving you the facts. You're just speculating. My entire point is that people who are acting like they are entitled to this and that it's EA's fault they are abusing this system are assholes. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying people should be put in jail, I'm not saying you SHOULD be banned, or whatever the hell you think I'm saying. I'm just speculating about the outcome of this, and how you guys are going to react because of it. People who download a song for $1 and try to justify it passed "I just wanted a song and didn't want to pay for it" are assholes too. I saw the same shit when MegaUpload was canned. People bitched because they couldn't watch their TV shows or download whatever for free and tried to justify their outrage, when in simply comes down to the fact that they just didn't want to pay for whatever the hell they were downloading.[/QUOTE] Megaupload wasn't used to pirate. Megaupload was used to share files. I only used Megaupload to get GMOD, Sim City, and other mods. I rarely even used it, unless I was going on a mod spree. Megaupload should have never been canned.
Knowing this will turn into a Anti-EA shitmccockle, I think i should post this now. [video=youtube;e-LE0ycgkBQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ[/video] I think that EA cannot do anything except remove, This was a coupon they made, Not some sort of hack and as long as you kept it down to the one game rule, I think you would be fine legal wise.
[QUOTE=legolover122;38027416]Except EA can't sue due to things like dynamic IPs and VPNs. And if they ban the account/remove games, you can't reinstall, update, or go online with them.[/QUOTE] This is true, the only way you can actually keep these games is to move them to a disc. Even then, I think it would require you to use an Origin account. [editline]14th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Best4bond;38027435]Knowing this will turn into a Anti-EA shitmccockle, I think i should post this now. [video=youtube;e-LE0ycgkBQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ[/video] I think that EA cannot do anything except remove, This was a coupon they made, Not some sort of hack and as long as you kept it down to the one game rule, I think you would be fine legal wise.[/QUOTE] Everyone that used this code got more then 1 game. So legal wise can be thrown out the window right now.
[QUOTE=legolover122;38027416]Except EA can't sue due to things like dynamic IPs and VPNs. And if they ban the account/remove games, you can't reinstall, update, or go online with them.[/QUOTE] plus IP's are not people.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38027445]plus IP's are not people.[/QUOTE] That's what I am saying. Suing based on IP would be EA equating IPs to people.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38027445]plus IP's are not people.[/QUOTE] This is also true. My neighbor used to leach from our internet at one point, and possibly downloaded who knows what under us. So there is a good defense if they decide to take action.
[QUOTE=Best4bond;38027435]Knowing this will turn into a Anti-EA shitmccockle, I think i should post this now. [video=youtube;e-LE0ycgkBQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ[/video] I think that EA cannot do anything except remove, This was a coupon they made, Not some sort of hack and as long as you kept it down to the one game rule, I think you would be fine legal wise.[/QUOTE] Let me make this a bit clearer EA can not touch the games on a fully completed transaction without getting into legal trouble regardless on if this was their mistake or not (unless it was credit card fraud and it has evidence but the banks handle that with the businesses getting affected). [B]IF THE TRANSACTION WAS NOT FULLY COMPLETED[/B][U] (as in you are waiting for the game or item or whatever) [/U][B][U]THEN THEY CAN CANCEL THE TRANSACTION[/U][/B] and then there is [B]NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.[/B]
[QUOTE=legolover122;38027294]EA should have just canceled the code when they found out it was broken. It escapes me why on earth they took so long to shut down the code.[/QUOTE] The code still works BTW
[QUOTE=mblunk;38027465]The code still works BTW[/QUOTE] Really? God dammit EA just deactivate it and send out a new one or something. It's looking as if they are BEGGING for people to do this.
[QUOTE=mblunk;38027465]The code still works BTW[/QUOTE] They dont care anymore if this is true
hell seeing how big EA is how didn't someone see this? Steam had something like this and BAM, stopped. This coupon was posted 16 hours ago, and likely way more than FP used it. I mean if they did, this is literally watching people walk out of your stores with unpaid for TV's and ignoring them, even though it's obviously wrong. You could call 911, or lock down the TV's and put up a preventative measure.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38027484]hell seeing how big EA is how didn't someone see this? Steam had something like this and BAM, stopped. I mean if they did, this is literally watching people walk out of your stores with unpaid for TV's and ignoring them, even though it's obviously wrong.[/QUOTE] There should be someone watching the survey making sure nothing like this would happen. I can see someone at EA calling up someone and saying "GOD DAMMIT EVERYONE IS ABUSING THAT CODE DAN GET YOUR ASS TO WORK AND STOP IT" But it's the weekend and all, I doubt EA opens on the weekend.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027498] But it's the weekend and all, I doubt EA opens on the weekend.[/QUOTE] I am pretty sure a massive company like EA doesn't just stop all activity on the weekend.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027498]There should be someone watching the survey making sure nothing like this would happen. I can see someone at EA calling up someone and saying "GOD DAMMIT EVERYONE IS ABUSING THAT CODE DAN GET YOUR ASS TO WORK AND STOP IT" But it's the weekend and all, I doubt EA opens on the weekend.[/QUOTE] AHAHAHAHHAH they are so open weekends. they got games to make in their sweatboxes
[QUOTE=jordguitar;38027464]Let me make this a bit clearer EA can not touch the games on a fully completed transaction without getting into legal trouble regardless on if this was their mistake or not (unless it was credit card fraud and it has evidence but the banks handle that with the businesses getting affected). [B]IF THE TRANSACTION WAS NOT FULLY COMPLETED[/B][U] (as in you are waiting for the game or item or whatever) [/U][B][U]THEN THEY CAN CANCEL THE TRANSACTION[/U][/B] and then there is [B]NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.[/B][/QUOTE] [quote]9. Termination of EA Services EA may terminate access to any online or mobile products and/or EA Services (and/or any portion thereof) at any time by giving you notice of such termination within the time period specified when you joined the particular EA Service, or if no time period for notice of termination was specified, then within thirty (30) days of the date such notice is either (at EA’s discretion) provided to you via email or is posted on the applicable product or EA Service or on [url]http://www.ea.com/2/service-updates[/url]. EA may also terminate access to EA Services for violation of this Terms of Service, if EA [B](in its sole discretion) [/B]deems that your use of EA Services renders EA Services less safe for others and/or minors or for illegal [B]or improper use of EA Services[/B], Content, Entitlement, products, or EA's Intellectual Property as determined by EA in its sole discretion. You may lose your user name and persona as a result of termination. [B]If you have more than one (1) Account, EA may terminate all of your Accounts and all related Entitlements.[/B] In response to a violation of these Terms of Service or any other agreement applicable to EA Services accessed by you, EA may issue you a warning, suspend your Account, selectively remove, revoke or garnish Entitlements at an Account and/or device level, immediately terminate any and all Accounts that you have established and/or temporarily or permanently ban your device and/or machine from accessing all EA Services or certain EA Services. You acknowledge that in such an instance EA is not required to provide you notice before taking action to suspend or terminate your Account, temporarily or permanently banning your device from some or all EA Services or selectively removing, revoking or garnishing Entitlements associated with your Account. If EA terminates your Account, you may not participate in an EA Service again without EA's express permission. EA reserves the right to refuse to keep Accounts for, and provide EA Services to, any individual. You may not allow individuals whose Accounts have been terminated by EA to use your Account. If your Account, or a particular subscription for an EA Service associated with your Account, is terminated, suspended and/or if any Entitlements are selectively removed, revoked or garnished from your Account and/or if your device is temporarily or permanently banned from accessing some or all EA Services, no refund will be granted, no Entitlements will be credited to you or converted to cash or other forms of reimbursement, and you will have no further access to your Account or Entitlements associated with your Account or the particular EA Service. If you believe that any action has been taken against your Account or device in error, please contact Customer Support at help.ea.com, support.popcap.com (for PopCap products) or swtor.com/support (for Star Wars™: The Old Republic).[/quote]
If EA really wanted to ban the accounts using the code, Why haven't they already done so? They know about it already They did the same thing with Mirror's Edge and Dead Space awhile back, Yet I know people who did it and [B]still has it. [/B]
I would understand slow on the draw on the weekend. But like what if their servers went down saturday morning? An entire weekend with no servers would be devastating profitwise.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027513]post[/QUOTE] Ah, so in their ToS EA never said they will sue you for doing this. So there is a good sigh of relief for me.
I got 6 games, i hope they stay.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;38027528]Ah, so in their ToS EA never said they will sue you for doing this. So there is a good sigh of relief for me.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure why you thought they would sue you lol.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027513]a[/QUOTE] So they are just going to up and ban thousands of accounts and make the biggest shit storm the gaming industry has ever seen? I will love to get front row tickets to that event. [sp]They will not do it as I said before, the transaction is complete and they allowed it with a coupon they made. Their arguments will never hold up in a court/arbitrator[/sp]
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;38027531]I'm not sure why you thought they would sue you lol.[/QUOTE] besides the fact I'm paranoid as shit, I would think this was theft in some way. I mean I got 5-6 games from this cause of one code, I would think EA wouldn't just ban me cause I still got the games installed and all.
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