Sick Fucks of the Week; Two men infiltrate elementary school and proceed to molest all children for
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that and they're child molesters and child molesters don't have a very good reputation with most inmates that aren't child molesters.
i can't speak for american prisons or other state prisons, but i have a couple friends that went to prison and I was told here at least it's pretty true, groups are usually very hesitant to accept them because of their rep, and a lot get started on purely because of their sentence.
also white supremacists get beaten the fuck up too if they stray away from their groups/caught alone, where as like every prison movie shows them as one of the top groups in the prison when it comes to "power".
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;46557823]And how was a 6 foot tall "12 year old" not suspicious?[/QUOTE]
Not incredibly out of the ordinary for somebody who will hit 6'5 - 6'7. People who grow to be that tall can hit nearly 6 feet by the time they are 12, and it's a common enough occurence that they could probably scrape by without a second guess
23 Jump Street?
Probably the best way to ensure I'll not take your opinion on all things judicial seriously is to say that you support the death penalty.
I can understand supporting in out of sheer anger at the perpetrator of a crime that directly affects you or someone close to you, but in cases where you're entirely divorced? No.
I believe if they can not be rehabilitated, they can be studied, examined. They can be interviewed, we can try to get to the root of the problem of how they became such despicable men.
Anything is better than death. They still serve a purpose.
[QUOTE=Alan Ninja!;46560525]Its not like they don't deserve it. As far as I'm concerned, anything gentler than crucifixion is an incredibly lenient sentence and they should be thankful they live in such a civil society.[/QUOTE]
who even says this in 2014
as i said i think these two should be executed, but not in some weird barbaric way like crucifixion. Should be firing squad or lethal injection.
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;46562009]as i said i think these two should be [B]executed, but not in some weird barbaric way[/B] like crucifixion. Should be firing squad or lethal injection.[/QUOTE]
Does not compute.
humane murder
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;46560922]i can't speak for american prisons or other state prisons, but i have a couple friends that went to prison and I was told here at least it's pretty true, groups are usually very hesitant to accept them because of their rep, and a lot get started on purely because of their sentence.
also white supremacists get beaten the fuck up too if they stray away from their groups/caught alone, where as like every prison movie shows them as one of the top groups in the prison when it comes to "power".[/QUOTE]
Let's see in Texas there are city jails where you are fed cold food once a day and given a blanket in a 3ft wide cell and your ventilation is the crack under the door, and that's for traffic violations to put things into perspective. American prisons are tough, and southern prisons are tougher. I mean we have to house cartel members when captured. Australia doesn't have that problem.
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;46560844]because prison isn't as horrible as most people make it out to be, and I personally don't believe people like this deserve to keep on living, to continue on living leaves to opportunity to experience more joy, happiness etc. I don't believe these men should ever feel happiness or anything of the like, death is very finale.
what brings me back to my first point, i believe fundamentally, law and everything aside, men like this don't deserve to live. call me edgy all you want, but that's just how I was raised and it's just my opinion after all.[/QUOTE]
i hope you realise then how sick you probably sound to anyone without [I]MURDER[/I] and [B][I][U]VENGEANCE[/U][/I][/B] ingrained in their minds
[editline]24th November 2014[/editline]
I mean, okay, of course I agree that this stuff is really [I]really[/I] awful, but where do you get off choosing who doesn't 'deserve to live'? I mean just that phrasing is terrifying.
Sorry but I don't understand it at all, nobody gets to decide that. And even from a practical standpoint they're more useful alive than dead.
jeez can i just cancel this thread, it has only bred hate. which is why i didn't want to report on it in the first place
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;46560810]it seems like there's massive loopholes that causes the state to loose a lot of money, and guilty men get to keep on breathing.
not a adequate system in my opinion.
in regards to the above post i don't think you get what i'm saying, I'm saying in cases specifically like this I believe the death penalty is incredibly fitting.[/QUOTE]
that's because you get your understanding of the american legal system from Rupert Murdoch and Law and Order.
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;46562009]as i said i think these two should be executed, but not in some weird barbaric way like crucifixion. Should be firing squad or lethal injection.[/QUOTE]
why?
what do you stand to gain from the death of someone that you've never met?
do you not understand the massive legal implications of allowing a government to take away someone's life for what it deems a crime?
does that not set a precedent that seems a little eerie?
regardless of the fact that, yes, these men did heinous acts that are by all standards morally wrong, what prevents a less reasonable moral standpoint from being so inflicted on the legal system as to hurt other people with no given justification?
in other words, looking at it from a purely philosophical level, does it not at all seem a little eerie that someone can be legally sentenced to death based on moral values, and what ends up preventing innocent people from being victimized once that precedent is established? the changing cultural and moral whims of that society?
I don't get how so many people these days are so against the death penalty and love the "rehabilitation" bullshit; moral high ground faggotrons.
Wheres the logic in being able to void someones rights and not void your own in the process?
Needs to be very tough sentencing on absolute proven cases like this, as someone was saying, make them into slaves for the rest of their life and shoot them once they're not making enough profit to keep themselves alive.
[editline]25th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=RoyalOwl;46564328]i hope you realise then how sick you probably sound to anyone without [I]MURDER[/I] and [B][I][U]VENGEANCE[/U][/I][/B] ingrained in their minds
[editline]24th November 2014[/editline]
I mean, okay, of course I agree that this stuff is really [I]really[/I] awful, but where do you get off choosing who doesn't 'deserve to live'? I mean just that phrasing is terrifying.
Sorry but I don't understand it at all, nobody gets to decide that. And even from a practical standpoint they're more useful alive than dead.[/QUOTE]
It's not murder, murder is against a human who is innocent, who has not voided the rights of others because of their fucked up ways.
[QUOTE=Subby;46568522]I don't get how so many people these days are so against the death penalty and love the "rehabilitation" bullshit; moral high ground faggotrons.
Wheres the logic in being able to void someones rights and not void your own in the process?
Needs to be very tough sentencing on absolute proven cases like this, as someone was saying, make them into slaves for the rest of their life and shoot them once they're not making enough profit to keep themselves alive.
[editline]25th November 2014[/editline]
It's not murder, murder is against a human who is innocent, who has not voided the rights of others because of their fucked up ways.[/QUOTE]
Were you never taught 'two wrongs don't make a right'?
I mean, this is pretty simple stuff.
[QUOTE=Subby;46568522]I don't get how so many people these days are so against the death penalty and love the "rehabilitation" bullshit; moral high ground faggotrons.
Wheres the logic in being able to void someones rights and not void your own in the process?
Needs to be very tough sentencing on absolute proven cases like this, as someone was saying, make them into slaves for the rest of their life and shoot them once they're not making enough profit to keep themselves alive.
[editline]25th November 2014[/editline]
It's not murder, murder is against a human who is innocent, who has not voided the rights of others because of their fucked up ways.[/QUOTE]
ease up on the spike TV and redbull there, friend, you lose your credibility when you start calling people 'faggotrons'
[QUOTE=joes33431;46565154]dumb bullshit[/QUOTE]
I love how you like to make assumptions about people, does it make your argument feel more validated because you can't come up with any real convincing arguments that don't boil down to "Killings, bad m'kay!"?, like how apparently I like Rupert Murdoch and Law and Order. also how's about you actually reply to the post that was actually a reply to something you posted? also these two men molested over 100 kids, i find it extra-ordinary that you plead in a case in which over 100 children were victimized, there's mounds of evidence of the accused doing the crime, and there's over 100 witnesses to the crimes. These men are guilty. Why should they get to continue to walk the earth just because you live in some delusional world where every fucked up cunt can apparently be helped and "re-rehabilitated". Also just go on ahead and keep beating around the bush and expressing a overall opinion on a topic even though we're talking about this case in particular.
Why don't you actually reply to this because this was from when I was actually you know still having a conversation with you, you dumb cunt.
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;46560645]The thing is though, even if they could be rehabilitated (what is a lot harder than every fp'er thinks it is, trust me I have an education.) do they actually deserve it?, they have hurt these kids in ways unimaginable for most likely their entire lives. Now I may be a bit biased because someone very close to me was molested as a child, but personally I don't think fucking filthy disgusting cunts like this deserve to keep on living.
[editline]24th November 2014[/editline]
also fuck you by the way you dumb cunt[/QUOTE]
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I don't even know why you're bothering being such a shit about this topic either, it's just my opinion I'm not hurting anyone, the US State isn't going to change it's verdict and decide to execute them just because I and couple other people think so. Do you actually want to convince me into thinking the death penalty is wrong for cases like this where over one-hundred FUCKING children were victimized. Gee what a great case your pleading for buddy "Rights for serial child molesters!!!".
Like are you literally brain damaged, how the fuck can any of you plead for the life of two men that have hurt [b]OVER 100 CHILDREN[/b]!?
Oh yeah and a final fuck you, you dumb smug cunt.
[QUOTE=RoyalOwl;46564328]i hope you realise then how sick you probably sound to anyone without [I]MURDER[/I] and [B][I][U]VENGEANCE[/U][/I][/B] ingrained in their minds
[editline]24th November 2014[/editline]
I mean, okay, of course I agree that this stuff is really [I]really[/I] awful, but where do you get off choosing who doesn't 'deserve to live'? I mean just that phrasing is terrifying.
Sorry but I don't understand it at all, nobody gets to decide that. And even from a practical standpoint they're more useful alive than dead.[/QUOTE]
um dude maybe it's the part where they molested over 100 kids that they should be executed. Man I love how fp'ers like to get off claiming people "don't have a right to say thing" or "bro u sound so fucked in the head", like holy shit do you actually think i'm saying "oh yeah all inmates should just be executed ay" I'm saying in this particular fucking case where they literally molested over 100 kids that maybe execution isn't that fucking bad for people like this.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;46568671]Were you never taught 'two wrongs don't make a right'?
I mean, this is pretty simple stuff.[/QUOTE]
It will never be right, i never said that... it cant be right because criminals will get released back into freedom; the same thing they themselves took away from someone.
Pretty simple stuff to obey laws, pretty ridiculous.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46569343]mental illness and life sentences without parole are the answer to both of what you said[/QUOTE]
Sorry but if you're mentally ill in the case that leads to you taking away someones rights, then well, i hope you stay in prison.
it doesn't take a conscious to obey the law....
Mental illness is a bullshit card, you may not feel the emotions that prevent you from killing or traumatizing someone, but how can you say you didn't know it was the wrong thing to do?
I'm a bit biased considering my grandpa was shot in the head and killed when he approached his neighbour for telling my dad off for playing in the front yard (not sure of exact circumstances).
The neighbour got off with Mental illness, how could he not know that shooting someone is the wrong thing to do? please enlighten me
My dad suffers depression and PTSD, not saying a prison sentence for the neighbour would have stopped this, just saying it's bullshit.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;46562050]Does not compute.[/QUOTE]
Well personally if I got to choose my death other than dying of natural causes it'd either be from a bullet or lethal injection, both seem to work well most of the time (Yes I know getting shot doesn't necessarily kill you instantly, same with lethal injection.) and are decently quick and painless.
where as crucifixion the pain and agony lasts days.
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;46569083]um dude maybe it's the part where they molested over 100 kids that they should be executed. Man I love how fp'ers like to get off claiming people "don't have a right to say thing" or "bro u sound so fucked in the head", like holy shit do you actually think i'm saying "oh yeah all inmates should just be executed ay" I'm saying in this particular fucking case where they literally molested over 100 kids that maybe execution isn't that fucking bad for people like this.[/QUOTE]
yes, i know what you meant and i still stand by what i said. i just honestly don't understand why anyone would think that way regardless of how awful these people are.
sorry i got upset in my last post, just my opinion
[QUOTE=Subby;46569320]It will never be right, i never said that... it cant be right because criminals will get released back into freedom; the same thing they themselves took away from someone.
Pretty simple stuff to obey laws, pretty ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Criminals don't [I]have[/I] to eventually be released, you know.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;46568671]Were you never taught 'two wrongs don't make a right'?
I mean, this is pretty simple stuff.[/QUOTE]
Two child molesters being executed isn't a wrong, you bleeding heart fool.
Facepunch should add the "disgusting" rating
[QUOTE=viper shtf;46571308]Two child molesters being executed isn't a wrong, you bleeding heart fool.[/QUOTE]
But two people being killed is (cue the [I]rawr human rights don't apply to these humans because I say so[/I] bollocks).
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;46569083]-snip-[/QUOTE]
dude, tone down the anger, there.
they should be in prison, isolated from the rest of the world, where they can't hurt anybody, but they shouldn't be killed just because you want revenge for people you've never met. you just keep restating that they did what they did. okay? so? what makes you the arbiter of who should and should not live? why should we put that kind of trust in the hands of any person, let alone a government? it should be obvious that powers of that magnitude can be easily misused and abused by people and governments alike.
revenge is not how you establish a just and effective legal precedent. it's based on emotional fervor and contempt, rather than a logical, legal, empirical, and ethical consideration of what is acceptable in a free and just society.
and, no, i wasn't actually suggesting that you like rupert murdoch or law and order, it was a metaphor; people in one country get the most insight into another through media and news, rather than realistic analysis of the state of affairs in that given country.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46557783]I hope they fall in front of a train
No wait, that's too fast.
I hope they get stuck inside a burning building and have enough oxygen so they wont pass out.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't make any sense, dude.
Like, you might as well say "I hope they are killed by an iron beam of this particular manufacturer's custom-made model, in a timely manner."
[editline]25th November 2014[/editline]
Also regarding this piece of news; this is too fucking weird. And it having gone unnoticed for months? WTC.
[QUOTE=joes33431;46573624]dude, tone down the anger, there.
they should be in prison, isolated from the rest of the world, where they can't hurt anybody, but they shouldn't be killed just because you want revenge for people you've never met. you just keep restating that they did what they did. okay? so? what makes you the arbiter of who should and should not live? why should we put that kind of trust in the hands of any person, let alone a government? it should be obvious that powers of that magnitude can be easily misused and abused by people and governments alike.
revenge is not how you establish a just and effective legal precedent. it's based on emotional fervor and contempt, rather than a logical, legal, empirical, and ethical consideration of what is acceptable in a free and just society.
and, no, i wasn't actually suggesting that you like rupert murdoch or law and order, it was a metaphor; people in one country get the most insight into another through media and news, rather than realistic analysis of the state of affairs in that given country.[/QUOTE]
It's not revenge, they didnt do anything to him, it's more like, whats the point in these sick fucks being alive?
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