WikiLeaks cyberattacks now involve Visa, Facebook, Twitter, MasterCard - Polidicks

[QUOTE=mobrockers;26584958]Proxy's don't work when DDoS'ing, as explained on the Anon DDoS tutorial, you would be targeting the Proxy instead of the website you try to DDoS. [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] Because that is not their job, their job is to provide a platform to be able to release leaked documents, not decide what gets leaked.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's a cop-out if I've ever seen one.

My credit card is visa. FUCK I WAS GONNA GET THE DSI XL TODAY!!!

Isn't somebody other than the Christian Science Monitor reporting on this???

[QUOTE=Dmarine;26585135]Yeah, that's a cop-out if I've ever seen one.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, I'm not familliar with that expression :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=mobrockers;26584958]Proxy's don't work when DDoS'ing, as explained on the Anon DDoS tutorial, you would be targeting the Proxy instead of the website you try to DDoS.[/QUOTE] Depends how you do it. You could be using the proxy to attack your target. Mind you, LOIC isn't the best of programs, so it probably does target the proxy.

[QUOTE=Flapadar;26585309]Depends how you do it. You could be using the proxy to attack your target. Mind you, LOIC isn't the best of programs, so it probably does target the proxy.[/QUOTE] Since a proxy has to receive your information, and then send it trough to the website you try to reach, you would be sending all the garbage to the proxy, which would then be DDoS'd, and unable to forward the garbage to the targeted website. I'd like to know how you think you'd be able to DDoS behind a proxy.

Mastercard? Fuck off anon

Remind me again who the fuck these twats think they are?

I kind of already made a thread on this.

[QUOTE=mobrockers;26585235]I'm sorry, I'm not familliar with that expression :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] To cop-out of something is to make excuses to avoid responsibility for something.

I'm apathetic to the whole thing, I guess in the long run it will make these companies understand not to piss off a majority of the Internet?

[QUOTE=Dmarine;26585668]To cop-out of something is to make excuses to avoid responsibility for something.[/QUOTE] Well due to the laws, they don't actually have any legal responsibility. On the other hand, they have moral responsibility, but journalists tend to avoid that since they'd just end up delivering biased information. They DO censor names of innocent civilians that just happens to be mentioned in the documents though, so the civilians don't get into serious problems. And they're trying hard to stay as neutral as possible, and just relay the information they receive. [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] The law I'm talking about that grants them the right to do it, though sometimes wikileaks is in a grey area [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law#United_States[/url]

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;26585521]Remind me again who the fuck these twats think they are?[/QUOTE] Angsty 12-year-olds who don't care that DDoSing websites could ruin a lot of people's lives (people make money off PayPal, buy things with MasterCard). I can't buy things from Steam because of the DDoS against PayPal, and apparently MasterCard won't work as well. Luckily I have a Visa. And now they're going to DDoS Amazon? This really makes me want to stop supporting WikiLeaks if their supporters do this sort of shit.

Wow, this is really nuts. Paypal only went down once for me, but it's alright now. I was planning on buying some Christmas presents but I guess I'll wait.

It's not anonymous and it's not 4chan god fucking dammit. it's one guy with a fucking botnet that happens to be browsing 4chan. I'm sick of these newspapers saying "IT'S 4CHAN IT'S 4CHAN" 4chan can't even fucking wipe it's own ass properly.

[QUOTE=Van-man;26585782]Well due to the laws, they don't actually have any legal responsibility. [/QUOTE] Legal responsibility doesn't mean moral responsibility goes out the window.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Communism;26579153]So Anonymous is a bunch of internet superheros when they take a shit on Scientology but not when they inconvenience you?[/QUOTE] No, that's also dumb.

[QUOTE={ABK}AbbySciuto;26585844] And now they're going to DDoS Amazon? This really makes me want to stop supporting WikiLeaks if their supporters do this sort of shit.[/QUOTE] Oh god the fucking irony it burns. You were never supporting wikileaks if you are willing to drop them just because of a few DDOS's to some websites. Paypal, Visa and Mastercard are all shitting on wikileaks right now, denying them access to their money and the like. I don't approve of the DDOS, because that just makes us not look any better than them, but it's not something to drop support for wikileaks over. Wikileaks is doing a great job and it's pretty god damn revolutionary right now that they have released some more of the important files.

[QUOTE=Heroms;26586480]Oh god the fucking irony it burns. You were never supporting wikileaks if you are willing to drop them just because of a few DDOS's to some websites. Paypal, Visa and Mastercard are all shitting on wikileaks right now, denying them access to their money and the like. I don't approve of the DDOS, because that just makes us not look any better than them, but it's not something to drop support for wikileaks over. Wikileaks is doing a great job and it's pretty god damn revolutionary right now that they have released some more of the important files.[/QUOTE] If their supporters are assholes, then I will not support them as I do not want to be associated with that shit. For the record, I was on the fence but falling toward WikiLeaks, but they pushed me off.

[QUOTE=Heroms;26586406]It's not anonymous and it's not 4chan god fucking dammit. it's one guy with a fucking botnet that happens to be browsing 4chan. I'm sick of these newspapers saying "IT'S 4CHAN IT'S 4CHAN" 4chan can't even fucking wipe it's own ass properly.[/QUOTE] except it isnt 1 guy and it is "anonymous"

[QUOTE={ABK}AbbySciuto;26586533]If their supporters are assholes, then I will not support them as I do not want to be associated with that shit. For the record, I was on the fence but falling toward WikiLeaks, but they pushed me off.[/QUOTE] Again, you're not seeing the big picture. Wikileaks is doing an outstanding job, major corporations are trying to cripple them by denying them service, and then just because some idiots try to get back at those corporations with their ass backwards ways, you drop their support? You're not better than the supporters who are "assholes". [QUOTE=rampageturke 2;26586543]except it isnt 1 guy and it is "anonymous"[/QUOTE] The man who did it remains anonymous, and I can assure it is no more than 2 to 4 people holding a botnet that are behind the attack. the 200 something people that are browsing /b/ could not bring down such massive websites as paypal, visa and mastercard. [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] I mean shit even make it 100 thousand people browsing /b/ which is very unlikely, websites like that have a massive amounts of people using their service daily and they are prepared for that sort of traffic.

[QUOTE=Swilly;26586429]Legal responsibility doesn't mean moral responsibility goes out the window.[/QUOTE] Did you miss the second part of my post, or do you just have reading problems?

[QUOTE=Van-man;26585782]Well due to the laws, they don't actually have any legal responsibility. On the other hand, they have moral responsibility, but journalists tend to avoid that since they'd just end up delivering biased information. They DO censor names of innocent civilians that just happens to be mentioned in the documents though, so the civilians don't get into serious problems. And they're trying hard to stay as neutral as possible, and just relay the information they receive. [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] The law I'm talking about that grants them the right to do it, though sometimes wikileaks is in a grey area [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law#United_States[/url][/QUOTE] An ex-post-facto law is when someone commits something that is not legally a crime, a law is created *after* they committed the crime, and they are essentially punished for a law that did not exist at the time they committed the "crime". I'm not seeing how that is relevant, as no charges have been made against Assange that I know of other than the alleged rape charges, which is definitely not an ex-post-facto law.

[QUOTE=Snuffy;26584051]You need to leak documents for corruption to be exposed. How is [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333920/WikiLeaks-Hillary-Clinton-ordered-U-S-diplomats-spy-UN-leaders.html]Hillary Clinton ordering diplomats to spy on world leaders[/url] any different? What makes [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers]The Pentagon Papers[/url] any more moral than what WikiLeaks is doing?[/QUOTE] The difference between the Pentagon Papers, and what Wikileaks is doing, is that the Pentagon Papers were not a massive dump of confidential documents. Before the Papers were published, the New York Times consulted with many ex national security advisers, and only released the least amount of documents possible to get the point across. Who is checking what Wikileaks dumps? Some volunteers, most who are not even from America, with no background in military or security advisement? Who would check 250,000 documents to make sure nothing harmful is contained? And that's one of the main reasons I disagree with what Wikileaks is doing. Not the idea that I don't support whistle blowing, but the fact that they will release anything. To put in their own terms, "we don't discriminate leaks". How can that possibly be good?

What the fuck is this going to solve? Immature retards.

[QUOTE=amgoz1;26588584]What the fuck is this going to solve? Immature retards.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1035993-Caving-to-pressure-from-supporters-PayPal-releases-WikiLeaks%E2%80%99-funds[/url] That.

the thing is, how else is everyone supposed to vent our frustration? i get that ddos's are almost certainly not the way to go, but we really don't have any other immediate power. and at least with ddos's more attention is being drawn to the issue, even if it isn't the right kind of attention. i just hope people will understand that wikileaks doesn't equal 4chan.

DDoS never solved anything and now I can't even use twitter because of these fags. It's pissing me off.

Maybe 4chan should be one of the sites taken down. DDoSing doesn't solve anything except pissing everyone off (which I guess is enough for them). Eventually it will stop and everything will be back to normal.

[QUOTE=DiscoBiscut;26588697]Maybe 4chan should be one of the sites taken down. DDoSing doesn't solve anything except pissing everyone off (which I guess is enough for them). Eventually it will stop and everything will be back to normal.[/QUOTE] DDoS'ing 4chan won't do anything.