Teenage Cannabis Use Does Not Lead to Adulthood Asthma, Depression, or Lung Cancer
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[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;48391688]I don't think it's anything new that CBD counteracts the "psychotic symptoms" of THC. The research was done years ago, you just have to look for it.[/QUOTE]
Do those studies include the possible long term subcortical damage? As far as I know these types of tests were only recently possible or even considered. Therefore long term effects are still a mystery.
When the long term effects (if any) are so benign that you need advanced testing to show any data of it, like when it's not an obvious symptom or anything that will really impact your life in any kind of way, I feel like that's relatively "safe". Especially compared to all the other drugs of abuse out there that do negatively impact your health in immediately obvious and easily defined ways.
Sure there's still some latent risk, as there is with ingesting any substance really, even food that you haven't handled yourself may be unsafe; There's always a risk. But you have to think of health in relative terms and understand that quality of life is the real goal here, for all of us. If something does impact my health but in such a way as to be so insignificant that it doesn't even begin to touch my quality of life, I'm completely okay with it, I'd consider that harmless.
Especially compared to a legal drug that can for sure do this to you [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delirium_tremens[/url]
[QUOTE=FreyasFighter;48385980]Lol well for example; anti depressants. Taken for depression and anxiety. A side effect of anti depressants are suicidal thoughts.
But weed, it relaxes you, makes you chill out, eases period cramps, tourrettes, arthritis, epilepsy.... And many other health problems, and lifts your mood right up for a while. And paranoia is the most "dangerous" side effect of weed.
...No need to overreact :v:[/QUOTE]
that's entirely circumstantial. When I'm seriously depressed smoking weed makes me withdrawn, paranoid, unmotivated, and yes it also makes me experience suicidal thoughts. I completely depersonalise when I smoke weed in a bad place. It is downright irresponsible to recommend marijuana over antidepressants and mood stabilisers - which helped my depression far more than weed ever could - to people who may be in a very fragile mental state
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;48399594]that's entirely circumstantial. When I'm seriously depressed smoking weed makes me withdrawn, paranoid, unmotivated, and yes it also makes me experience suicidal thoughts. I completely depersonalise when I smoke weed in a bad place. It is downright irresponsible to recommend marijuana over antidepressants and mood stabilisers - which helped my depression far more than weed ever could - to people who may be in a very fragile mental state[/QUOTE]
For me, antidepressants made me feel even worse than I did beforehand, and was on the verge of attempting suicide (doctors be like "TAKE THESE PILLS! THEY WILL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE KILLING YOURSELF BUT IT REALLY WORKS! :v: )
Yet on the few occassions when I smoked weed however, I've never felt so happy, uplifted and inspired in my life.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;48388252]Anime avatar.
That's all I'm gonna say.
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[QUOTE=FreyasFighter;48400036]For me, antidepressants made me feel even worse than I did beforehand, and was on the verge of attempting suicide (doctors be like "TAKE THESE PILLS! THEY WILL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE KILLING YOURSELF BUT IT REALLY WORKS! :v: )
Yet on the few occassions when I smoked weed however, I've never felt so happy, uplifted and inspired in my life.[/QUOTE]
that's great, but what I'm saying is you shouldn't be just outright recommending weed as an alternative because for a lot of people that isn't the case. And if someone has something else alongside or causing their depressions i.e. anxiety, OCD, schizoid disorders, bi polar or unipolar disorders, these can all be aggravated quite seriously through excessive weed usage. Antidepressants do make you feel more depressed, that's a given, but after a month or two it evens out and apart from a few mild side effects here and there it's fine.
I'm just saying marijuana isn't an antidepressant. It may have antidepressant qualities in some people, but that's not it's primary effect, and in excess those benefits quickly go away
[QUOTE=Angus725;48381191]Weed is more addicting than alcohol if you're stressed or depressed in my experience.[/QUOTE]
It's not chemically addictive though.
There's three different types of addictiveness that are different in how hard it is to break the addiction(lowest to highest)
Psychological:
Sweets, marijuana, gambling, etc.
Both:
Not many spring to mind except alcohol which can be both a psychological addiction(Feeling that you need it to function normally) or chemical(Your body literally getting worse if you don't drink) etc.
Chemical:
Most hard drugs, tobacco, etc.
[QUOTE=FreyasFighter;48400036]For me, antidepressants made me feel even worse than I did beforehand, and was on the verge of attempting suicide (doctors be like "TAKE THESE PILLS! THEY WILL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE KILLING YOURSELF BUT IT REALLY WORKS! :v: )
Yet on the few occassions when I smoked weed however, I've never felt so happy, uplifted and inspired in my life.[/QUOTE]
Different antidepressants work in different ways, if your doctor didn't care that one specific brand made it even worse, find another doctor. I'd also try to talk to a different doctor about medical marijuana if you're in a state where that's legal, since it seems it has a positive effect on you.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;48384716]Are you serious? I'd be very worried if you were.
I am struggling to put this together without insulting you, because what you said is frankly quite shocking in so many ways. Pretty much all drugs we use derive from plants. As for the 'poisonous tablets and crap that pharmacies sell', well, this speaks for itself. The fact that you'd take weed over drugs from pharmacies is why I fucking love natrual selection.[/QUOTE]What exactly does that have to do with natural selection.
It's hilarious when pretty much every single person I met who smokes weed says it's not addictive, yet can't live a day without few joints, wakes up - joint, goes to work - joint, in college - joint.
When challanged to "hold 1 day without smoking weed" - makes up a tonn of bullshit why he wont do it and hes not addicted.
This is exactly why I hate weed, people who smoke it seem to become somewhat idiotic and I am not sure if that's effect of weed or just getting stupid more and more very day.
[QUOTE=arleitiss;48401094]It's hilarious when pretty much every single person I met who smokes weed says it's not addictive, yet can't live a day without few joints, wakes up - joint, goes to work - joint, in college - joint.
When challanged to "hold 1 day without smoking weed" - makes up a tonn of bullshit why he wont do it and hes not addicted.
This is exactly why I hate weed, people who smoke it seem to become somewhat idiotic and I am not sure if that's effect of weed or just getting stupid more and more very day.[/QUOTE]
So you basically hate weed because of a straw man argument on some anecdotes?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48401118]So you basically hate weed because of a straw man argument on some anecdotes?[/QUOTE]
No, because whoever I knew who was cool before, now are just fucking idiots who don't care about anything and smoke to the point where conversations with them become senseless.
[QUOTE=arleitiss;48401143]No, because whoever I knew who was cool before, now are just fucking idiots who don't care about anything and smoke to the point where conversations with them become senseless.[/QUOTE]
So yes, you have an anecdotal straw man
[QUOTE=arleitiss;48401094]It's hilarious when pretty much every single person I met who smokes weed says it's not addictive, yet can't live a day without few joints, wakes up - joint, goes to work - joint, in college - joint.
When challanged to "hold 1 day without smoking weed" - makes up a tonn of bullshit why he wont do it and hes not addicted.
This is exactly why I hate weed, people who smoke it seem to become somewhat idiotic and I am not sure if that's effect of weed or just getting stupid more and more very day.[/QUOTE]
You know smoking often is his own choice that he makes and he doesn't need to prove anything to you. One can get high on the ganja and not become a slave to it, it's not that difficult. Some people are more susceptible to forming habits such as smoking or eating junk food than others, people are different.
[QUOTE=arleitiss;48401143]No, because whoever I knew who was cool before, now are just fucking idiots who don't care about anything and smoke to the point where conversations with them become senseless.[/QUOTE]
Just because [B][I]you[/I][/B] see a change in your friends:
a) doesn't mean they've actually changed lol
b) doesn't change anything about how weed works for millions of other people
c) doesn't mean it's the weed's fault. your friends could just be stupid.
one last point: in my experience, alcohol or a broken ego has made people act more stupid than any amount of marijuana
[editline]8th August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=old_hag12;48390077]Fucking not true. Misinformation is god damn cancer. The shit IS addictive, but not in the conventional sense of the term. You develop a need/want to do something everyday the habit can grow out of control. THERE ARE ISSUES with daily use. Memory retention becomes a bigger and bigger issue with chronic use (its basically worse with tolerance, try doing research and using daily). Long term effects of heavy chronic use are not fully understood yet.
Most people are not habitual and simply don't understand the total truth. That being said... moderation is key.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2825218/[/url] - This doesn't have to do with addiction but it's relevant.
[QUOTE=Crimor;48400804]Different antidepressants work in different ways, if your doctor didn't care that one specific brand made it even worse, find another doctor. I'd also try to talk to a different doctor about medical marijuana if you're in a state where that's legal, since it seems it has a positive effect on you.[/QUOTE]
I live in the UK, and it's illegal here, sadly :c
i'll admit i am psychologically addicted to weed; i smoke it every day and night. however, i have noticed that my want to smoke is almost entirely related to how easy my access to it is. when i was in japan for three weeks, i knew i had zero access to it, and thus i felt no craving at all. yet, when i am home, it is far more difficult for me to not smoke purely because i drive past my dealer's home every time i go to work. i also don't need it to operate during the day, in fact on days which i know i need to be on point i don't smoke until i'm done with the day, then i wind down with 2 or 3 bowls from my bong.
i have noticed that my episodic memory is not the best, at least when trying to recall when something happened. i can usually remember most of the details of what i've done but never when it happened and it is always nonlinear in time.
despite all this, i always get to work and class on time, i get shit done, and i feel no more or less depressed than when i don't smoke it. i just wish i could afford a good vape so that i can drop smoke for good
[QUOTE=cody8295;48381949]Should be legal for adults 21 and older in every state[/QUOTE]
Or you know, 18, since you can go to war, put politicians in power and begin the journey of getting yourself into crippling credit debt at that age.
After reading through this thread I would like to say that you probably would never experience anything that could be referred to say physical dependence/withdrawal/addiction in regards to using marijuana, if that use includes something like smoking very lightly, irregularly.
I'd say once you develop a frequent, consistent habit, spanning across months, and eventually a couple of years, and so on. Physical addiction/withdrawal/addiction is very possible, if not inevitable, but this could very well depend on the person as well, everyone is different. At most, I'd say it's entirely safe to say that it's all very possible, and you can not definitively say that it's not.
Coming from the perspective of someone that has developed incredibly high tolerance, a 'second sober,' smoking consistently, everyday, for three years, acknowledging dependence, and continue to indulge despite that apparent physical issues that can arise when discontinuing use after being a regular smoker.
All I'm trying to say is... I got the shits. and you can google this, and this is probably again, very dependent on the person, but there's tons of people.
If you start using cannabis this frequently, and try to stop, there's a good chance you will experience irregular bowel movements, constipation, weird gooey THC/resin goo shit in your weird shits you're taking and any of that disinterest/loss of appetite/everything is boring now/
just google like
weed smoke long time can't poop stomach hurts, read some forum posts
allimsayin is shit is physically dependent and can fuck with u 100% if u smoke a lot and eventually will if u embrac that weed, aka withdrawal symptoms, last 1-2weeks, month at most, after that i felt 100% like when i was sober tho, (went a few months no weed after discovering the inner workings of this physical phenomenons then said nvm lets go back to smokew eed errday)
but this should be common sense, im taking in THC a chemical for all the time each day if you abruptly stop body is gonan be like yo.. something different an d fuck u up all im sayin is how the fukc can you say "there are no physical side effects" there will be, one day, :) maybe
Eh I started smoking a few months ago and was vaping about 400-500 mg a day, well one day I stopped completely because I wanted to be more productive and I got increased anxiety and insomnia as well as bad nausea as a result of the anxiety, however I vaped pure CBD hemp oil for about a week straight, it satisfied my craving to vape, acted as a sedative in high doses, and lessened the anxiety. To be honest before I got my CBD vape I just meditated and it worked wonders, could sleep at night and eat more after 1-3 minutes of focused meditation a day. I think any "withdrawal" symptoms I had were just physical manifestations of my anxiety, after a week or so my memory was fine and the symptoms cleared.
The memory claim is one I've never felt is true. At least not for me.
I smoke a lot of weed very regularly. My memory is as sharp as it ever has been. Like all people I forget things, I've never met a person who doesn't forget things, but amongst everyone I know, stoner or non stoner or what have you, no one ever questions my memory of things when they get to know me. I have been like that since I was kid, with a very sharp memory, both short and long term. Smoking all the weed I have, has not changed that at all.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48413896]The memory claim is one I've never felt is true. At least not for me.
I smoke a lot of weed very regularly. My memory is as sharp as it ever has been. Like all people I forget things, I've never met a person who doesn't forget things, but amongst everyone I know, stoner or non stoner or what have you, no one ever questions my memory of things when they get to know me. I have been like that since I was kid, with a very sharp memory, both short and long term. Smoking all the weed I have, has not changed that at all.[/QUOTE]
Smoking weed can affect your short term memory recall, during the duration in which you are high and are smoking. After which, nothing is affected.
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