Police in London called to reports of beheading. Shots fired - Polidicks

[QUOTE=-Rusty-;40742438]Wait so the guy is saying that because this happens all the time in his country that its ok? Oh and some crap about the government. They need a way to identify these people with violent extremist behaviors and deal with them. Whatever they're doing right now isn't working.[/QUOTE] yeah, we need some sort of... final solution... or something [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Paper Monkey;40742523]First of all, I know it's not a race. It does get treated like a race: speaking as a South Asian with no religion to speak of, it is still [I]intensely awkward[/I] to be brown in the Western World sometimes. Second of all "UGH ISLAM AS USUAL UUUUGH" doesn't strike you as a problematic statement?[/QUOTE] You're arguing with someone who literally believes that non-white people are genetically less intelligent than white people. Watch him weasel his way out of denying it without actually saying it because he knows it's bannable

[QUOTE=Paper Monkey;40742523]First of all, I know it's not a race. It does get treated like a race: speaking as a South Asian with no religion to speak of, it is still [I]intensely awkward[/I] to be brown in the Western World sometimes. Second of all "UGH ISLAM AS USUAL UUUUGH" doesn't strike you as a problematic statement?[/QUOTE] you see what you're trying to do here is reason with our good friend DainBramage this can be empirically shown to be a fruitless effort it's much easier (and more fun too!) to tell him to kill himself [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;40742488]First of all, islam is not a race. Second of all, pointing out that this particular minority is responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime is not racist, it's a statement of fact.[/QUOTE] kill yourself [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Telling user to "kill yourself"" - rilez))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Paper Monkey;40742523]Second of all "UGH ISLAM AS USUAL UUUUGH" doesn't strike you as a problematic statement?[/QUOTE] That's called being an asshole and people should have the common decency to at least attempt to discern the difference from a peaceful Islamist and a violent one before they start shouting for lynchings.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742587]Arguing with someone who literally believes that non-white people are genetically less intelligent than white people.[/QUOTE] And I'm arguing with somebody who would fail an economics class in high school before claiming the teacher was lying and out to oppress him.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742587]You're arguing with someone who literally believes that non-white people are genetically less intelligent than white people. Watch him weasel his way out of denying it without actually saying it because he knows it's bannable[/QUOTE] I don't deny it. And I also don't think that white people are at the "top" (if you want to make some kind of value-judgment like that) - east asians and Ashkenazi jews are both higher, as I have repeatedly stated, every time people try to make out that I'm some kind of white supremacist.

not really. he's wrong in my opinion, but not that wrong

[QUOTE=Aman VII;40742298] [/QUOTE] Holy fuck what, that is strange. Like how calm he is. Also, his accent etc, does this not prove what I said a few posts ago suggesting someone was about to look like a moron? I would love to know how "people being let into the country" could be to blame for that.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40742661]And I'm arguing with somebody who would fail an economics class in high school before claiming the teacher was lying and out to oppress him.[/QUOTE] high school economics teachers are all randroid flunkies

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742736]high school economics teachers are all randroid flunkies[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742359]you sure don't have a problem with that you fuckin hypocrite[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742587]stupid nazi reference/godwin [/QUOTE] Yeah that's not what I meant at all. Deport them or something I donno. Although that isn't really a fix to the problem at the same time. I'm not sure what they could do about the extremists.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742736]high school economics teachers are all randroid flunkies[/QUOTE] Ayn Rand is psuedoeconomics. Seriously. Let me help you out there: [url]https://www.khanacademy.org/science/macroeconomics/gdp-topic/econ-intro-in-macro-tutorial/v/introduction-to-economics[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYP_wU1JTU[/media] Watch a few videos and just do a bit of learning before you make more posts on economics.

I don't really see how religion is really an issue here. People do batshit crazy stuff no matter the religion.

[QUOTE=TheCreeper;40742184]There is a video of the attacker on the ITV website. [url]http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-05-22/woolwich-police-incident/[/url][/QUOTE] It's private.

[video=youtube;EROXP8JDG9M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EROXP8JDG9M[/video]

[video=youtube;Ws_HF9qSrYI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws_HF9qSrYI[/video] Sorry if already posted as YouTube video. The ITV link has broke.

[QUOTE=-Rusty-;40742838]Yeah that's not what I meant at all. Deport them or something I donno. Although that isn't really a fix to the problem at the same time. I'm not sure what they could do about the extremists.[/QUOTE] You can't deport someone who is a legal citizen. Not all of these "radical muslims" you're terrified of are fresh-off-the-boat immigrants.

[QUOTE=Occlusion;40742866]I don't really see how religion is really an issue here. People do batshit crazy stuff no matter the religion.[/QUOTE] It's an issue when people are extreme about it and kill others in a jihad... There are Muslims who literally believe that western culture is threatening Islam just by existing, that's why a lot of these things happen.

its almost as if there's some sort of racial/national assumption that people are making about muslims... [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Glitchman;40742931]It's an issue when people are extreme about it and kill others in a jihad... There are Muslims who literally believe that western culture is threatening Islam just by existing, that's why a lot of these things happen.[/QUOTE] and this thread is filled with white people who think that muslims merely immigrating to their country is a threat to their own existence.

those islamists should stop killing innocent people

How horrible. The thing that upsets me the most is that people are putting more energy into arguing about what other people think of the situation than they are actually thinking of the situation themselves. Some guy was killed on the streets with machetes and knives, that's absolutely ridiculous and disgusting. My thoughts are with his family and friends and everyone who was there to witness the event.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742958]its almost as if there's some sort of racial/national assumption that people are making about muslims... [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] and this thread is filled with white people who think that muslims merely immigrating to their country is a threat to their own existence.[/QUOTE] wow what lol. I just said it's an issue when individuals actually are extreme enough to kill others. Doesn't make me racist or anything. To be honest, I wouldn't want anyone radical enough about their religion near me, especially when it involves [b] murdering innocent people. [/b] I know Islamic people who are about as Islamic as I am Christian, which is little-to-none. And they are pretty rad. It's just the radicals that cause this mess, along with racial profiling and the xenophobia that follows it.

when will [I][B]LEFTIES[/B][/I] see that the [b]MARXIST MULTICULTURAL DREAM[/b] is simply THAT...A [I]DREAM![/I] I mean.. the look of a [I]MUZZER[/I] simply intimidates me ! [B]THEY DON'T EVEN WEAR VERSACE![/B] [I]first[/I] we saw 9/11, then 7/7, now [I]this![/I] i bet they don't even vote for [B]ukip[/B] either!! once we get these vile [I]scum[/I] out of our [B]country[/B] we can usher in a [B]new age of [I]peace[/I][/B] [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] lol seriously though nobody gave a shit until it was discovered they shouted 'allahu ackbar', maybe we should concentrate less on their ethnicity and more the fact they beheaded someone in public?

Apparently one of them is a converted Muslim, name is Micheal Adeboloja aka Mujahid.

That's not a machete. That's a meat cleaver. Well at least on fox it'd probably be called an AK47 later

Whats sad and ironic about this event is that these sort of actions will probably only increase the numbers of innocent Muslims killed by first world countries as the "War on Terror" is ramped up, perpetuating the cycle of hate.

Dude wasn't right in the head and probably snapped.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742736]high school economics teachers are all randroid flunkies[/QUOTE] Also can you explain how?

[QUOTE=BenJammin';40743316]Dude wasn't right in the head and probably snapped.[/QUOTE] What. Did you even read the article?

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;40742930]You can't deport someone who is a legal citizen. Not all of these "radical muslims" you're terrified of are fresh-off-the-boat immigrants.[/QUOTE] Where did I ever say they all were? I never did.

Holy shit, they behead a guy and just stand around talking to cameras? They must have been on something, no other explanation for this.