Police in London called to reports of beheading. Shots fired - Polidicks

Why do I even look in these threads. Every single time muslims or gypsies are involved in an incident, our local racists and islamophobes always go full retard with their shitstorms.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40744194]Loosen immigration controls, help and encourage people to integrate into the economy and society of the country, expand social security and benefits spending, etc. Also crack down on behaviors like this, female gential mutilation, give Muslim women rights here, and encourage Muslim households to trust and utilize services here provided by the state.[/QUOTE] This has some good ideas, and it would be a step in the right direction. I'm hurt right now because this is the land of my father, a land I love, and to see something like this happen in it sucks.

The first thing I heard about this was over the radio. I misheard it though, because I thought that the report had said that David Cameron had been violently murdered in the street.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40744194]Loosen immigration controls, help and encourage people to integrate into the economy and society of the country, expand social security and benefits spending, etc. Also crack down on behaviors like this, female gential mutilation, give Muslim women rights here, and encourage Muslim households to trust and utilize services here provided by the state.[/QUOTE] Religion makes a mockery of human intelligence. The longer it exists, the more embarrassing it will be for future generations.

Slaughtered in the name of the biggest and most successful lie throughout the history of mankind. Joke's on you killers.

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40744446]Religion makes a mockery of human intelligence. The longer it exists, the more embarrassing it will be for future generations.[/QUOTE] There isn't anything wrong with having faith or believing in religion. It only causes problems when people start trying to force it onto others or eliminate those who do not believe. Even if religion didn't exist people would still find a reason to kill each other.

I am so worried people will use this as an excuse for London Riots 2.0, the racism and anger I am seeing is ridiculous, this could quite easily turn into several anti-Muslim murders...

[QUOTE=valkery;40744394]The first thing I heard about this was over the radio. I misheard it though, because I thought that the report had said that David Cameron had been violently murdered in the street.[/QUOTE] We'd probably be dancing in the streets if that was the case.

[QUOTE=orcywoo6;40744626]anti-Muslim murders...[/QUOTE] Never heard of such a thing.

Mosque attacked in Essex apparently over twitter.

[QUOTE=Hellsten;40744646]Never heard of such a thing.[/QUOTE] Retaliation stabbings/Assaults/Murders.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40744194]Loosen immigration controls, help and encourage people to integrate into the economy and society of the country, expand social security and benefits spending, etc. Also crack down on behaviors like this, female genital mutilation, give Muslim women rights here, and encourage Muslim households to trust and utilize services here provided by the state.[/QUOTE] Given that public opinion on immigration and benefits spending isn't great to say the least, how will that help immigrants integrate any better than they are currently? Crack down on those behaviors? They are already illegal and there are charities/organisations set up to prevent them, there are also no barriers stopping ethnic groups from integrating with the rest of society - what more will you actually do to 'encourage' people and how will you be 'cracking down' on that behavior? They're often arriving from a place without social security, benefits or human rights to a place with social security, benefits, public services, universal human rights, prosperity etc. do you really think that increasing benefits and making it easier for them to come will suddenly make them integrate more? [editline]edit[/editline] wowee, a dumb rating from Jeep-eep and DaysBefore, sure didn't see that coming!

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[QUOTE=squids_eye;40744551]There isn't anything wrong with having faith or believing in religion. It only causes problems when people start trying to force it onto others or eliminate those who do not believe. Even if religion didn't exist people would still find a reason to kill each other.[/QUOTE] Yes but how long does that last. Something 'works' for you in your mind. Your mind says 'well this is true for me so I better tell everyone about it' partly for their validation or acceptance. You tell someone, eventually someone doesn't give a shit, tells you that you're wrong, or otherwise invalidates your belief. You either back down, or become agitated and seek more validation that your beliefs are correct. Arguments ensue, most people don't become violent. When you're raised from a young age to believe something, or are particularly vulnerable to something - perhaps have a mental disorder, or struggle to get along in society - that's all it takes to create a radical. Let's say you're a susceptible youth, grew up in a bad area, raised poorly, parents died young, hated authority - end up in prison - someone finally acts friendly and accepting towards you, welcomes you into their religion - makes you feel passion for something for the first time in your life. A few emotion-riddled speeches, specifically relating to your own life later - you're willing to do terrible things against the very society that you perceive to have damaged you, when in reality, it was your own mind tearing you apart.

[QUOTE=Revanold;40742361]Is there any middle ground between racism and overly political-correctness these days You know, like, being civil[/QUOTE] lol not hating people for something they didn't have control over is overly politically-correct you're fucking retarded!! [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=SCopE5000;40744748]Yes but how long does that last. Something 'works' for you in your mind. Your mind says 'well this is true for me so I better tell everyone about it' partly for their validation or acceptance. You tell someone, eventually someone doesn't give a shit, tells you that you're wrong, or otherwise invalidates your belief. You either back down, or become agitated and seek more validation that your beliefs are correct. Arguments ensue, most people don't become violent. When you're raised from a young age to believe something, or are particularly vulnerable to something - perhaps have a mental disorder, or struggle to get along in society - that's all it takes to create a radical. Let's say you're a susceptible youth, grew up in a bad area, raised poorly, parents died young, hated authority - end up in prison - someone finally acts friendly and accepting towards you, welcomes you into their religion - makes you feel passion for something for the first time in your life. A few emotion-riddled speeches, specifically relating to your own life later - you're willing to do terrible things against the very society that you perceive to have damaged you, when in reality, it was your own mind tearing you apart.[/QUOTE] good theory too bad it's wrong! your theory works for people who ""snap"" and spontaneously do bad things, but it doesn't work for radicalization (apart from in movies and tv dramas) the reason extremists exist is because people hit their glass ceilings. source [url]http://www.economist.com/news/international/21573604-how-muslim-clerics-turn-jihadist-green-glass-ceilings[/url]

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;40744748]Yes but how long does that last. Something 'works' for you in your mind. Your mind says 'well this is true for me so I better tell everyone about it' partly for their validation or acceptance. You tell someone, eventually someone doesn't give a shit, tells you that you're wrong, or otherwise invalidates your belief. You either back down, or become agitated and seek more validation that your beliefs are correct. Arguments ensue, most people don't become violent. When you're raised from a young age to believe something, or are particularly vulnerable to something - perhaps have a mental disorder, or struggle to get along in society - that's all it takes to create a radical. Let's say you're a susceptible youth, grew up in a bad area, raised poorly, parents died young, hated authority - end up in prison - someone finally acts friendly and accepting towards you, welcomes you into their religion - makes you feel passion for something for the first time in your life. A few emotion-riddled speeches, specifically relating to your own life later - you're willing to do terrible things against the very society that you perceive to have damaged you, when in reality, it was your own mind tearing you apart.[/QUOTE] That isn't unique to religious extremists. Like I said, even if there was no religion there would still be people brought up in a bad area who are being manipulated into hurting people. That is basically how street gangs work.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40744194]Loosen immigration controls, help and encourage people to integrate into the economy and society of the country, expand social security and benefits spending, etc. Also crack down on behaviors like this, female gential mutilation, give Muslim women rights here, and encourage Muslim households to trust and utilize services here provided by the state.[/QUOTE] All of these things has been tried by the Swedish government, without significant results. Assimilation and integration takes time, and with a constant influx of immigrants who cluster up in the same neighbourhoods, it's very hard to deal with the social exclusion that thrives there. The only effective way to catch up with segregation is to slow down immigration.

this thread is slowly turning away from the fact that a horrible incident happened today to a "race" discussion

Got back from Cadets to hear about this... Shame they didn't finish them off Reactions of a couple of soldiers I know: [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/e6f7vc.png[/IMG]

I think that that one perpetrator had to be quite stumped when his revolver backfired.

Was he actually beheaded, with his head completely separated, or is he only partly decapitated? I don't really want to look at the pictures but I have a morbid curiosity. [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mandems;40744998]this thread is slowly turning away from the fact that a horrible incident happened today to a "race" discussion[/QUOTE] [I]Slowly?[/I]

Slowly and slowly I am becoming more and more xenophobic. I hate to say it but I'm fed up of seeing people try to justify their actions by saying "It happens all the time in my country! This government is shit!" Why are they here if they hate everything about us? They're only here to make our lives shitty and then they try to justify it by saying it happens all the time in their shitskin raghead countries. This is terrorism. Plain and simple. People get all upset when people suggest that we don't want any more immigrants in this country, we get branded as racists and xenophobes because a vocal and extremist minority of foreigner ruin it for the majority of foreigners here who have good work skills and ethic. This has seriously pissed me off. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Xenophobia and Racism" - Megafan))[/highlight]

That's not xenophobic. That's a natural and healthy reaction.

Mate, there's a reason shit like this doesn't happen in our country, it's because we strive to get rid of dirtbags like you*. [SUP]*people like you refers to aggressive and violent people.[/SUP]

[QUOTE=Midas22;40745285]Slowly and slowly I am becoming more and more xenophobic. I hate to say it but I'm fed up of seeing people try to justify their actions by saying "It happens all the time in my country! This government is shit!" Why are they here if they hate everything about us? They're only here to make our lives shitty and then they try to justify it by saying it happens all the time in their shitskin raghead countries. This is terrorism. Plain and simple. People get all upset when people suggest that we don't want any more immigrants in this country, we get branded as racists and xenophobes because a vocal and extremist minority of foreigner ruin it for the majority of foreigners here who have good work skills and ethic. This has seriously pissed me off.[/QUOTE] Nah dude, I don't think your transition is all that gradual if you're already using words like "shitskin raghead countries."

[QUOTE=Midas22;40745285]Slowly and slowly I am becoming more and more xenophobic. I hate to say it but I'm fed up of seeing people try to justify their actions by saying "It happens all the time in my country! This government is shit!" Why are they here if they hate everything about us? They're only here to make our lives shitty and then they try to justify it by saying it happens all the time in their shitskin raghead countries. This is terrorism. Plain and simple. People get all upset when people suggest that we don't want any more immigrants in this country, we get branded as racists and xenophobes because a vocal and extremist minority of foreigner ruin it for the majority of foreigners here who have good work skills and ethic. This has seriously pissed me off.[/QUOTE] Exactly, I genuinely don't care who comes here as long as they assimilate. Extremist minorities and dicks who slam an entire people because of said minorities only make that harder Myself and the other few muslim families in my town could really do without this :v: And please don't say "shitskin raghead countries", that's not really helping

The british public is looking really bad right now.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40744194]Loosen immigration controls, help and encourage people to integrate into the economy and society of the country, expand social security and benefits spending, etc. [/QUOTE] We tried to do this in Denmark, but it has only gone worse. :/

[url]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=549783901731849&set=vb.100001007321034&type=2&theater[/url] pretty disgusting

[QUOTE=cricket50;40745959][url]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=549783901731849&set=vb.100001007321034&type=2&theater[/url] pretty disgusting[/QUOTE] What the hell is he yelling? all I hear is "half past three"