• EgyptAir MS804 Wreckage found near Karpathos
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[QUOTE=MissZoey;50363803]Can you translate what they all mean together?[/QUOTE] Smoke in the toilet near the cockpit a few minutes before the crash, shortly after that it spread to the board electronic below the cockpit. Not much more. It is still not clear if it was a bomb or not. Wait or more evidence.
wouldn't a terrorist group have claimed responsibility for the attack by now
[QUOTE=MissZoey;50363803]Can you translate what they all mean together?[/QUOTE] My understanding from what I have read: 00:26 Cockpit right window anti ice system overheating 00:26 Co-pilot sliding window sensor fault detected 00:26 Smoke detected inside a toilet 00:27 Smoke detected in the electronics compartment of the plane underneath the cockpit 00:28 Fault in a sensor in another window on the right side of the cockpit 00:29 Fault in autopilot flight control unit 2 00:29 Fault in spoiler control system
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;50355625]Because multi million dollar commercial planes are designed so shoddily that 'oops there was a spark in the fuel tank' is just a regular probable scenario.[/QUOTE] Five years ago, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_667]EgyptAir Flight 667[/url] suffered an electrical fire in the cockpit that injured seven people and irreparably damaged the plane. Poor maintenance doesn't discriminate between ultralights and full-sized airliners. If the company doesn't properly maintain their fleet, then it's not unreasonable to suggest mechanical failure.
[QUOTE=Morgen;50364311]My understanding from what I have read: 00:26 Cockpit right window anti ice system overheating 00:26 Co-pilot sliding window sensor fault detected 00:26 Smoke detected inside a toilet 00:27 Smoke detected in the electronics compartment of the plane underneath the cockpit 00:28 Fault in a sensor in another window on the right side of the cockpit 00:29 Fault in autopilot flight control unit 2 00:29 Fault in spoiler control system[/QUOTE] Pretty much, 3 minutes is a short space of time for a fire to become uncontrollable enough to cause the plane to become out of control almost immediately though?
Not at all. If the source of the fire was someone smoking in the bathroom and tossing the butt in the trash or something, the thing would fill with smoke pretty quickly I'd imagine. 3 minutes is a short time. Fire spreads fast.
A rapid decompression causes instant smog in the cabin, which the sensors can pick up as smoke.
[QUOTE=OvB;50371039]Not at all. If the source of the fire was someone smoking in the bathroom and tossing the butt in the trash or something, the thing would fill with smoke pretty quickly I'd imagine. 3 minutes is a short time. Fire spreads fast.[/QUOTE] wow, having a crafty burn in the khazi could of caused this, no wonder you are the resident scientist here, who would of thought?
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50371130]wow, having a crafty burn in the khazi could of caused this, no wonder you are the resident scientist here, who would of thought?[/QUOTE] Doesn't have to be that. Could be electrical, could be anything. Fire has brought down planes before. But I think the sharp turns in the flight path and what Orkel was saying indicate something more catastrophic than just fire. However, I was responding to your doubts about how fast a fire could spread on a plane, not jumping to conclusions about the result of the crash. Which is still anyones guess without more evidence.
[QUOTE=OvB;50371290]Doesn't have to be that. Could be electrical, could be anything. Fire has brought down planes before. But I think the sharp turns in the flight path and what Orkel was saying indicate something more catastrophic than just fire. However, I was responding to your doubts about how fast a fire could spread on a plane, not jumping to conclusions about the result of the crash. Which is still anyones guess without more evidence.[/QUOTE] I know fire can spread quickly in most circumstances but I am not convinced that a fire that starts by accident can cause such devastation as to bring this plane down in 3 minutes.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50371802]I know fire can spread quickly in most circumstances but I am not convinced that a fire that starts by accident can cause such devastation as to bring this plane down in 3 minutes.[/QUOTE] In 1996, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValuJet_Flight_592]ValuJet Flight 592[/url] went down about three minutes after the passengers first smelled smoke in the cabin, which was the first indication that there was a fire aboard the plane. I'm not sure how Airbus designed the smoke detection system aboard the A320 that Flight 804 used, but there's a possibility that the sensors only detected the fire after it was well-established. The crew was definitely aware of smoke, but they apparently didn't have enough time to adequately deal with the situation and could've lost control of the plane due to the fire disabling the control system.
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