Grand Theft Auto V features voice-overs from real gang members. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42073350]After GTA 4 and Max Payne 3 I'm starting to feel like Rockstar's games are just excuses for their horrible writing team to stroke their massive dick egos. They think they're great writers but writing dialog is all they know how to do. Since the reviewers gave them so much positivity for their "oscar quality writing" in GTA 4 I'm not totally confident that GTA 5 won't have the beginning of most of the missions be driving the car halfway across the city while listening to some peripheral character's verbal diarrhea.[/QUOTE] ...I'm sorry what? Everything I read there is the exact opposite of how it actually is.

I really wasn't a fan of GTA 4, but GTA 5 just sounds better and better every day.

I don't really understand how people like Saint's Row. Yes, I know. Opinions and tastes. But that shit seems to get even more wild by the minute until it makes no sense at all like those comedy movies that shove every tiny bit of "comedy" they can to try and be funny.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42073303] What the fuck are you doing R*? I had high hopes for this game and now it looks like you're sucking even more of the soul out of the GTA franchise.[/QUOTE] People spelling Rockstar like R* piss me off even more than people who spell Valve like VALVe. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=dass;42075680]I don't really understand how people like Saint's Row. Yes, I know. Opinions and tastes. But that shit seems to get even more wild by the minute until it makes no sense at all like those comedy movies that shove every tiny bit of "comedy" they can to try and be funny.[/QUOTE] That's more The Third and IV. Try Saints Row 2.

Saint's Row is the Family Guy of Sandbox games. At the very least, The Third and IV are, first two were at least partially serious and were still tasteful in their humour.

[QUOTE=The Stills;42075763]Saint's Row is the Family Guy of Sandbox games. At the very least, The Third and IV are, first two were at least partially serious and were still tasteful in their humour.[/QUOTE] Just like Family Guy and it's cancellations, oddly enough.

I don't see the problem with this either? Why are people flipping shit? :v:

[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;42075421]So did OP just blow in from stupid town or what[/QUOTE] He clearly dived into a "GTA IV actually sucked" bandwagon which didn't exist, contrary to his belief. Now he just looks really dumb. On a slightly thread-related note, I thought Max Payne 3 would be way better if Sam Lake wrote it.

jesus fucking christ OP look at what you've done

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;42075902]jesus fucking christ OP look at what you've done[/QUOTE] how do I fix it [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] Why does everyone think that not liking GTA 4's writing makes me LOL U LUVVED SAINTS ROW 3'S CRAZY WACKY EPIC HUMOR I thought Saints Row 2 had the best writing for this type of game. They really took a "less is more" attitude to the dialogue and I feel it fits the genre a lot better than the amount of writing they have in GTA 4, and it could still be serious when it needed to be (and I feel like the serious moments in Saints Row 2 were a lot more profound because the writers spoke with actions rather than words). In general I think the writing was funnier as well. A lot of the satire in GTA 4 fell under the category of "admitting that something sucks" which is a lazy approach to satire and isn't the same as simply being self aware. In GTA 4 I legitimately felt like the writing was holding me back from the actual gameplay and I never felt that way in Saints Row 2.

[QUOTE=dass;42075680]I don't really understand how people like Saint's Row. Yes, I know. Opinions and tastes. But that shit seems to get even more wild by the minute until it makes no sense at all like those comedy movies that shove every tiny bit of "comedy" they can to try and be funny.[/QUOTE]the third certainly was in some places but 4 was a huge improvement, it was actually pretty clever yes, you're the president and there are aliens but they handled it a lot better than i initially thought

They want to explore all aspects of the city which I understand and they want it to feel right but hiring gang members over actual voice actors just isn't smart. It would be better to consult gangs and have the VA's study gang talk so that they can get the best line delivery possible.

[QUOTE=Flubbman;42076355]the third certainly was in some places but 4 was a huge improvement, it was actually pretty clever yes, you're the president and there are aliens but they handled it a lot better than i initially thought[/QUOTE] Saints Row 4 took the Far Cry Blood Dragon approach of "parody as much as you can at once" and I think it really worked. I still find Saints Row 2's humor better though because often when it happens it's completely unexpected (like what happens in the fight with the second in command of the Sons of Samedi)

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42076301]how do I fix it [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] Why does everyone think that not liking GTA 4's writing makes me LOL U LUVVED SAINTS ROW 3'S CRAZY WACKY EPIC HUMOR I thought Saints Row 2 had the best writing for this type of game. They really took a "less is more" attitude to the dialogue and I feel it fits the genre a lot better than the amount of writing they have in GTA 4, and it could still be serious when it needed to be (and I feel like the serious moments in Saints Row 2 were a lot more profound because the writers spoke with actions rather than words). In general I think the writing was funnier as well. A lot of the satire in GTA 4 fell under the category of "admitting that something sucks" which is a lazy approach to satire and isn't the same as simply being self aware. In GTA 4 I legitimately felt like the writing was holding me back from the actual gameplay and I never felt that way in Saints Row 2.[/QUOTE] Maybe it's the fact that you are trying to compare saints row with gta in the first place. I mean, I get your point about gta 4 being kinda gray and boring, but the gta series isn't known for its over the top humor, its about it's subtlety. Hell, gta 3 is a perfect example of this. The world was dark and gritty (to an extent) yet people loved the game, not just because of its game mechanics, but because of it's subtle humor and piss takes of the real world. It got more defined in gta vice city and even more so in san andreas. Gta 4 was a re-visit to the gta 3 style of gameplay (hell, it's even in the same city) and obviously, there ware people that got into the series with san andreas, where the humor was less subtle, and so didn't really enjoy the game (that, and a lot of features that were in san andreas were taken out). so really, gta 5 is going to be, not only the "san andreas" of the series, but also a little bit of [B]every[/B] series they've ever made, which in my opinion is fucking awesome. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=spekter;42076382]They want to explore all aspects of the city which I understand and they want it to feel right but hiring gang members over actual voice actors just isn't smart. It would be better to consult gangs and have the VA's study gang talk so that they can get the best line delivery possible.[/QUOTE] why make a copy of something if you can have the real deal?

[QUOTE=Hogie bear;42076485]Maybe it's the fact that you are trying to compare saints row with gta in the first place. I mean, I get your point about gta 4 being kinda gray and boring, but the gta series isn't known for its over the top humor, its about it's subtlety. Hell, gta 3 is a perfect example of this. The world was dark and gritty (to an extent) yet people loved the game, not just because of its game mechanics, but because of it's subtle humor and piss takes of the real world. It got more defined in gta vice city and even more so in san andreas. Gta 4 was a re-visit to the gta 3 style of gameplay (hell, it's even in the same city) and obviously, there ware people that got into the series with san andreas, where the humor was less subtle, and so didn't really enjoy the game (that, and a lot of features that were in san andreas were taken out). so really, gta 5 is going to be, not only the "san andreas" of the series, but also a little bit of [B]every[/B] series they've ever made, which in my opinion is fucking awesome. [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] why make a copy of something if you can have the real deal?[/QUOTE] I think my main problem with GTA 4 was not the tone but how fucking talky it is. Look at the first mini climax of the game. (SPOILERS) [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InvHB_wvfpI[/url] Compare that with one of the more dramatic revenge kill scenes in Saints Row 2 (again, SPOILERS) [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWD_riShgU[/url] See how much better written that is? They use both action and dialogue in writing and they set the mood a lot more profoundly than in GTA 4, which is just a back and forth until [sp]Niko finally shoots Vlad in the head.[/sp]

You could of linked and [sp] tags instead of spoiling them.

I expect the game to be really good. I bet some of you who don't live around gangs might even be scared at some point if you're not careful.

Saints Row took the stupid humor route and now it's terrible, and GTA took the serious route and I like it better this way.

[QUOTE=Durrsly;42076605]You could of linked and [sp] tags instead of spoiling them.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the suggestion.

How dare someone rate anything rockstar related dumb. [b]how dare they[/b]

Cool I guess but I'd probably never notice/care on my own

[QUOTE=The Stills;42075763]Saint's Row is the Family Guy of Sandbox games. At the very least, The Third and IV are, first two were at least partially serious and were still tasteful in their humour.[/QUOTE] Actually, IV is surprisingly good at its humor. I hated The Third's humor 90% of the time, and I was convinced that IV wouldn't be much different, but I was pleasantly surprised. I know it sounds stupid to suggest a game where you play as the Super-Powered President of the United States of America actually has good, witty, well-written humor, but... it actually does. The Third's humor fell flat almost every time, but IV has actually made me laugh a number of times- legitimately laugh- something a lot of games can't manage. While the premise is utterly over-the-top, the humor is actually rather tasteful- it reminds me a lot of Blood Dragon's style of parody and its a damn far cry (harr harr) from The Thirds "LOL SEX JOKES AND DILDO BATS". I really wish the game had a longer time to be made into a full game. I always get upset that it was made from a DLC and it sorta shows. There are some significant improvements, don't get me wrong its a blast to play and its a [B]huge [/B]step up from the third, but in some way it feels like it falls short as a new installment. If it got more time to step out of the shadow of a DLC it would have been an amazing game. The map is pretty much the same, a lot of building were reworked to work more vertically to work with super powers but its not like the difference from SR1-SR2. That and super powers make driving and customizing vehicles a bit pointless. But honestly, those are my only major complaints. Super powers are incredibly fun to play with. Weapon customization is a huge improvement. The activities are more varied and except for the rift missions, were very fun. And again the humor and writing is well done this time around. Its kind of a shame people are so quick to judge it as DLC for a full price when its actually a pretty good game on its own right. Maybe it a bit expensive, but damn fun and damn good.

Sounds like this can be used by angry moms and politicians in their favor

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;42076987]Sounds like this can be used by angry moms and politicians in their favor[/QUOTE] Its sad to think that this is still a concern nowadays...

Is this good though? I always imagined that most non-actors would be terrible at even playing themselves.

op should have brain removed [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] very carefully

[QUOTE=Lebowski;42077347]op should have brain removed [editline]4th September 2013[/editline] very carefully[/QUOTE] He didn't already?

Explain to me how this is a bad thing?

Does OP really not understand that GTA has always been a blend of serious and silly, like really stop complaining about it having more authentic background chatter, that's in no way a bad thing

[QUOTE=Mingebox;42077252]Is this good though? I always imagined that most non-actors would be terrible at even playing themselves.[/QUOTE] this makes absolutely no sense at all